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- econoar, on 10/31/2007, -20/+156Impressive and well deserved. I've been using Leopard since the launch and it has been flawless for me so far. Install was smooth (no blue screen of death) and everything just runs one step ahead of how it did in Tiger. Spaces and the new spotlight are my favorite features so far. Great OS.
(Can we please not turn this into a fanboy flame war?) - 8bit_Hero, on 11/06/2007, -12/+139from Pirates of Silicon Valley
Steve Jobs: We're better than you are! We have better stuff.
Bill Gates: You don't get it, Steve. That doesn't matter! - Tippis, on 10/31/2007, -12/+119Which one?
- supermanred, on 10/31/2007, -11/+75This upgrade is huge, it is now a certified UNIX OS, the backend of the OS is the most beautiful part, working so well. The frontend UI is much improved as well, and some of the features are real neat. Still, its the backend on this one that makes the big difference you will notice in responsiveness, stability and of course security are a given.
- stealthboy, on 10/31/2007, -19/+71Compare the number sold to the percentage of install base (windows users buying Vista vs. Mac users buying Leopard). Bet you don't feel so smug now, eh?
- superwick, on 10/31/2007, -8/+51ZING!
- Tippis, on 10/31/2007, -2/+33I wonder how many interpreted that question as "which version of Vista", when what I meant was "which first weekend", considering that Vista had two separate launches...
- SeBBBe, on 10/31/2007, -24/+53How did Vista do during its first weekend?
- Altotus, on 10/31/2007, -9/+37Somehow I doubt that Apple sold 2 million Macs this past weekend. They sell about 2 million Macs per QUARTER (~91 days). No, the figure mentioned only includes retail and mail-order sales, not pre-installs (which would account for about 3% of that amount anyway).
By comparison, Microsoft's Vista sold about 50,000 copies in the first weekend (125,000 copies in the first week), and Microsoft's XP sold 300,000 retail copies in the first week. However, retail sales are aren't Microsoft's bread and butter -- they don't market to consumers, they market to OEMs and corporations. Because of in-place OEM and enterprise agreements, Microsoft counted 20 million licenses shipped the first DAY Vista was available.
The difference would seem to imply that OS X is the OS people want, and Vista is the OS people get. - MacParrot, on 10/31/2007, -18/+43And how many of those Vista sales were the result of OEM licenses being automatically put on computers going out the door?
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -1/+26read the Ars review, so much under the hood has changed its ridiculious.
You clearly don't nkow what you are talking about - rudy23, on 10/31/2007, -11/+36well XP to Vista is techincally a downgrade .
- ersnyder, on 10/31/2007, -3/+25"The difference would seem to imply that OS X is the OS people want, and Vista is the OS people get."
Brilliant! - Jeezoflip, on 10/31/2007, -10/+292 copies bought, 1,500,000 pirated.
- solarisom, on 10/31/2007, -2/+21Spaces seemed sort of gimmicky at first, but application binding in spaces has made me a lot more productive.
- richardiscool, on 11/06/2007, -10/+29I'm not sure, I know they sold 40million in the first 100 days, though.
- otaku22, on 10/31/2007, -2/+20"separate", not "seperate". It's easy to remember: There's "a rat" in "separate"
- runeasgar, on 10/31/2007, -2/+20If Apple stops doing that, Apple goes out of business. They don't make much money off software at all.
- TheCheeks, on 10/31/2007, -1/+19Related, I heard the blue screen problem was due to Application Enhancer that modifies the system in ways it probably shouldn't be. I remember theres a few "customizers" that included AE to help modify the system. Source: http://daringfireball.net/2007/10/blue_in_the_face
- nestcrw, on 10/31/2007, -2/+18I can't imagine why people are digging you down, this is a very important part of the OS.
- superwick, on 10/31/2007, -7/+23How is his comment cheesy? He posted a brief explanation of his experience for Leopard so far. I will say that my own experience has been very similar, and I've had only 2 small problems, both of which have to do with 3rd party apps, not the OS. The OS is as good as everyone says it is. "They are who we thought they were!"
Is it perfect? no, but what is? - inactive, on 10/31/2007, -8/+24Nnew macs don't come with leopard preinstalled?
- northernmunky, on 10/31/2007, -0/+15Only applies if you leave programs set to run automatically that aren't compatible with Leopard.
Like Application Enhancer and ShapeShifter... which I didn't expect to work and uninstalled before I upgraded and it worked flawlessly - totorototoro, on 10/31/2007, -1/+16Yeah..I wasn't interested in Spaces until I realized you could assign certain apps (like Adium) to be persistent in every Space-that makes it much more useful.
- dgalliga, on 10/31/2007, -4/+18All jokes about Vista aside, if by "nonvisible" you mean system level upgrades then your depth of understanding on 10.5 is sorely lacking.
- richardiscool, on 10/31/2007, -3/+17I didn't say that, but I'm betting Apple have also included these sales.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/31/2007, -6/+20It doesn't help that Apple haven't forced serial numbers or their own version of WGA down anyone's throats.
A company that trusts it's users? Weird huh? - MacParrot, on 10/31/2007, -5/+18The number one reason I got it wasn't Spaces or Time Machine (I do full backups at least once a week to a seperate drive, but having older versions of documents available when I screw one up will be a nice add) or the new features of the Dock (meh), but the "Back to my Mac" through dotmac. This makes dotmac ALMOST worth the price. To be able to connect to my home computer through my laptop from anywhere in the world is great. Of course there are ways to do this with any other OS, but the setup and execution with Leopard is fantastic.
- bigbadgoat, on 10/31/2007, -1/+14go ahead, find another 12" laptop with a 2.16 ghz processor and a 160 gb hd for less than $1400, which is what I paid for my macbook, canadian taxes included.
- superwick, on 10/31/2007, -4/+17because Apple doesn't want to support millions of computers they didn't build. They want to know their OS will work on every machine they say will work with it.
/broken record - Zippo, on 10/31/2007, -1/+13I pre-ordered Leopard and got it last Friday and have been lovin' it ever since. I did run into one big issue upgrading from Tiger (Problem with FileVault that led to me being unable to log in), but after a call with Apple and fixing that issue, Leopard's been running great. Quick Look is, by far, my fav feature.
- xerexes1, on 10/31/2007, -2/+14Actually, according to the article, the total does include the preinstalled version in new Macs.
- spectre_25gt, on 10/31/2007, -0/+12Well consider yourself lucky to have not run into a bad driver. Bad ram will do it too, but that's out of Microsoft's control.
- superwick, on 10/30/2007, -1/+13if you want to make a compelling argument, try:
1. using punctuation.
2. not sounding like a 10 year old (unless you really are 10, or younger) - jayselle, on 10/31/2007, -2/+13Keep in mind most of those copies are probably business, government, or OEM related. How many home users actually went out and bought Vista Ultimate as an upgrade?
- xoineg, on 10/31/2007, -0/+11I bought it the first day. It is faster and very stable. no problems so far and time machine is awesome.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/31/2007, -8/+18Not yet, Macs with Leopard preinstalled shipped after the opening weekend.
The two million copies sold are boxed copies - zionKing, on 10/31/2007, -5/+15To anyone upgrading from 10.4(tiger) to 10.5 (leopard):
MAKE SURE you choose "Archive and Install" under "Installation Options" else you risk blue-screen. And that is no fun. - zweben, on 10/30/2007, -0/+10I can confirm that. I've installed on 3 computers. Two worked fine, one got the blue screen - it had Application Enhancer installed.
I followed these instructions and it, well, it booted at least: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306 ...
Then it would freeze on startup. I did a clean install and now it's working perfectly. Clean install is always safer. - norman619, on 10/31/2007, -4/+14Oh geez is it really that much of a suprise that a large chunk the Mac folks will want to upgrade to the latest and "greatest" version of their OS?
- superwick, on 10/30/2007, -2/+12WTF is 'ubunto' ?
- Birdoftruth, on 10/31/2007, -7/+17and your logic is dumb because Vista can only run enjoyably if you have 2 gigs of ram. Not to mention the battery life on Laptops that it eats away at.
Anyway that wasn't his point. He was saying when you scale the market prices accordingly Apple sold more OSs. - superwick, on 10/31/2007, -1/+11Am I missing something here? Saying it's "a great OS" is overpraising? Someone else said this, but it IS true: "Digg comments are almost like Youtube comments"
- TheCheeks, on 10/30/2007, -0/+10Besides games, I have yet to find a type of program that the mac doesn't have that Windows/Linux does. And more often than not, the Mac versions are open source.
- greatcaffeine, on 10/31/2007, -6/+16How many positive reviews does Vista need to catch up to Leopard?
- snowpilot, on 10/31/2007, -2/+11how about you compare things in the same category. OS vs Gaming software = a *****-ton different. So stop being a tool.
- superwick, on 10/30/2007, -0/+9your last sentence is why your point was lost on me. It goes both ways.
- sv650touring, on 10/31/2007, -1/+10fanboys and haters. That's all we have here on Digg, according to... the fanboys and haters
- fribhey, on 10/30/2007, -0/+9it's funny how i've been running leopard since friday and all of my current apps (photoshop, illustrator, quark, flash, word, toast, fusion, etc, etc, etc) are all running great.
- inactive, on 10/30/2007, -0/+9To clarify for the uninitiated: Application Enhancer allows the OS to use Unsanity's haxies. The most well known haxie is ShapeShifter, which can completely transform the look of OS X, as seen here: http://interfacelift.com/themes-mac/previews/030_e ...
And yes, that is a Halo theme. It's called Eylo. -
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