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- WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -5/+85Not only is it poor strategy, but it's bad PR as well. Dumb move, Apple!
- titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -5/+82As much as I love Apple and their products I must say this.
Dear Apple,
***** you, not everything belongs to you, please stop being an ass and stuck up.
Sincerly me
(podcast, podcast, podcast, podcast, podcast, podcast, podcast, podcast,podcast) - generalleoff, on 10/12/2007, -9/+40It's just as dumb on Apples part as it was on the community's end to pick the name in the first place. Picking a name based on a proprietary DRM laden device was always a bad idea.
- justnick, on 10/12/2007, -2/+32Skarbreeze -- the name podcast was around before itunes let you subscribe to them. It was a community adopted name. Granted the name podcast refers to the ipod because it is the most popular MP3 player but apple did not create the name. They are trying to steal the name, that's all. Plain and simple. It is bad PR and just a dick move.
- totorototoro, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Silly move by Apple- trademark "iPod", sure. even "iPodCast". but "Podcast"? They didn't invent it, or popularize it. Show some community goodwill and get over it.
- justnick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15bitclout -- if apple created the name I would be all for them to keep it, control it, do whatever they want with it but they did not.
Just so everyone is clear -- Apple did NOT create the name "Podcast" and has no trademark on it. - titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15When I think Podcat TWiT is the first thing that comes to mind.
- hansamurai, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I don't think of Apple when I hear podcast. I don't even own an iPod (Juice and just my work computer ftw).
- wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Is "Podcast" a registered Trademark? If not then tough. Somebody (not Apple) should go out and register "podcast" as a trademark and send a C&D to apple :)
Windows isnt a tm, "Microsoft Windows" however is. - shirosamurai, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17First time I heard of a podcast was from Mr. Laporte, not Apple.
- t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13What's he going to do? Edit himself into Wikipedia again?
- homestar14, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I'm an Apple fan too, but they did not coin the term "podcast" at all. Also, I think most people think "iPod" when they hear "podcast."
I don't like this move one bit. C'mon Apple, don't screw yourself over! - teknotant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I will start to call them FreedomCastes
- willistg, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12When I hear the word "podcast" I think of dumbass people don't know what an mp3 or rss is. like the one poster that implied you subscribe to podcasts through itunes....whatevs man
mmmmmm koolaid - Tobey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"Podcast" isn't a trademark quite yet. But it looks like Shae Spencer Management, LLC is currently in the lead for it, followed by some dude in New Jersey...
- punkrockxtian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Thats a pretty dumb and pointless move on Apple. Think of the THOUSANDS of websites and companies that use the word podcast. They must have one hell of a legal team to take on all those companies.
- theWrkncacnter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I never thought that "podcast" made sense. You don't need an iPod, or even iTunes to listen to one.
- thinkdifferent, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Apple certainly did NOT create the term podcast. What they did do was thru iTunes 4.9 & later was simplify the experience of subscribing to and listening to podcasts. By doing that they also exposed it to a wider audience thus popularizing it, much as they did for mp3 players with the iPod.
Using the PodPolice® is a bad move on their part. - suderman, on 09/09/2008, -0/+6I've always figured "podcast" meant "playable on demand"-cast. The whole idea being that it's not streamed, it's yours and you can play it whenever it's convenient for you.
iPod just happens to also use the word pod. Come on, Apple, it's not like we're calling these things iPodcasts. I can read electronic books on my iBook. Will it be a problem if others also use the term "book"? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Um... I believe that the word "pod" existed in dictionaries as long as the word existed in the english language. All anyone needs to do to defend themself against Apple in court...is bring in any dictionary. F*n stupid move by Apple.
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8The reclaimation of the term "podcast" by apple is the same scenario of google advising newspapers to cease and desist with using the term "Google it" (prefering people use the term "search for, with google")
It's a stupid system, but trademarks can't be legally maintained if they enter common usage and companies aren't seen to be protecting that trademark. Band-Aid brand has had this problem, as well as countless other brands that have entered common usage.
Yes it's a stupid system, but it's really the system itself we should be blaming, and not google or apple. - DCMacHead, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11I wonder what Adam Curry, the Podfather, has to say about this. If there's someone that got boned in all this, it's him.
- skunkman62, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@ titlesaysitall
when i hear "Podcat" i think of cats from outerspace coming to earth and taking over our bodies. then taking over the world. or i think my "s" key is broken. - fatnutz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I agree, I don't think of Apple, because a podcast is just a digital audio file of people talking, and usually most "pre-recorded talk-radio shows" offer multiple file types to DL, mp3/AAC/OGG. Apple is just trying to bind the name to the device, and hold control of something that may have been their concept, but wasn't popularized by them, but by their users. If "Podcasting" didn't catch on, they wouldn't be busting chops, period. Part of me thinks they want the general public to think a "podcast" is something that is exclusive to the iPod. It's just hunch, but if you think that's totally out of the ballpark thinking for Apple, you'd better get your nose out of Mr. Job's ass.
Great move Apple, going after the people that are helping sustain and increase popularity of your product.
I hope you die-hard apple people bite back on this, I'd hate to see your uber-loyalty blind your logic in this case.
In the end, a podcost is far from revolutionary, just a catchy name to help the popularty of a "Pre-Recorded talk-radio show," whether it be audio or video. < I notice some of yout take offense to that....but that's all it is.. - justnick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6um....what?
Podcast was coined as a name for an audio recording that can be played on your mp3 player. The pod in podcast refers to the ipod because that is the most popular. It had nothing to do with id3 tag or pdf crap. If apple wants to improve the podcast format with all that crap you just said then they can go for it, but to steal the name podcast for only itunes is complete *****. Stop blindly going along with what apple does. I like their products but you got to call them on their ***** like this.
Apple didn't create the name, they have no right to steal it. - amoirae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5The Apple law brigade is being zealously stupid like the RIAA in pursuing legal suits where it isn't necessary or even sane. When are nuisance law suits by conglomerates going to stop?
- etruscan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This isn't the same as Google or Kleenex or Ski-doo - since all of those are brand names. Apple may have a leg to stand on if people were saying "iPodding" or "Applepodding", but the term "podcasting" was started by Apple and their fans and does not refer to a brand. It was therefore adopted by the community at large... though podcasting has been around since before it had this name. Does anyone remember Shoutcasting?
If they were so worried about it they should have spoke up a year ago, and saved the rest of us a lot of trouble. - Sonic84, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4If Apple doesn't try then someone else will. I hope "podcast" is public domain.
- thinkdifferent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4OK reality check here. A podcast is simply an rss feed with enclosures. That was part of the RSS spec, not something created by Apple. Currently one of the popular enclosure mime types is mp3. However, nothing prevents any other type of file from being associated. Thus, photocasts(jpg,png,etc), appcasts(zip,dmg,exe,app,etc), doccasts(pdf,doc,txt,etc) are all possible.
Apple has promoted other audio/video formats than mp3 which their players (iTunes/iPod) can display specialized information with such as "Enhanced podcasts". It doesn't matter if they came from a feed or direct download. Fundamentally all they are is standard QT wrappers which already support multiple media types in a single file wrapper with time based events. - RickySan65, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Curry := mediawhore; As soon as he hears of it he will mingle into it all
- pentomino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Apple also owned the trademark to FireWire. That's why everyone uses USB 2.0 now.
- inferno10, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I love Apple products; however, if this news is legitimate, shame on Apple. Apple did not coin the term podcast. It started more as a grassroots movement, stemming from net radio. Once this concept began to catch on and more well-known figures started running their own podcasts, Apple took notice and started integrating the lingo into their own system, pushing the concept mainstream.
Just because Apple promoted podcasts does not give them the right to attack the community, even if the word "pod" is in the word. Sure, they might just be protecting their intellectual property, but I fear this will alienate the entire community which they helped foster. The podcasting phenomenon was quite strong before Apple took it under its wings. - krached, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The trademark for podcast is registered, filed on March 8 of this year. Owner is Paul Fowlie CORPORATION NEW JERSEY 830 Mountain Way Morris Plains NEW JERSEY 07950, the mark covers SOUND RECORDING FEATURING AUDIO INFORMATION FOR DOWNLOAD-SPOKEN WORD AND MUSIC. Sorry for the caps, but that is uspto's text. Anyone who uses the term podcast should probably file an action with the PTO. Seems like a pretty generic term to me, this guy is probably just a troll.
- skunkman62, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"all your pod are belong to us" steve jobs
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"The reclaimation of the term "podcast" by apple is the same scenario of google advising newspapers to cease and desist with using the term "Google it" (prefering people use the term "search for, with google")"
really? even when they say "google it" with a lower g because it has been added to the dictionary. just wondering - firemillen2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Just heard this on satellite radio....
Apple just sent C&D letters to all farmers telling them to take the words"pea pods" off their crates. Apple is also planning to send C&D letters to every English speaking human being on earth telling them to never use the word "i" again when referring to themselves. We have to now use our names in the third person when referring to ourselves. For example..
"Millen here. Millen say ***** YOU to Apple for their Nazism of the English language." - oskite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I don't think of Apple; I think of Diggnation. Duh.
- Angmar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You are probably right, iPodder also had to change its name because of Apple.
- leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nope. Apple is going to lose their claim, because there is tons a prior art proving that:
* Apple did not invent the Podcast.
* Podcasts existed for years before Apple added the podcasting feature to iTunes.
* The "Pod" in Podcast has nothing with the iPod. You don't need an iPod, iTunes, or any other Apple technology to play Podcasts.
Apple's lawyers should know that they don't stand a chance taking this case to court. They were hoping to scare Podcast Ready into a quick settlement, and it looks like they've failed so far. - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Honestly, this C&D is probably over "myPodder", not over "podcast".
Much ado about nothing. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2or how about streamcast? thats what people called it for years before someone decided to change it to "podcast"
- thinkdifferent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's just a registration, but the trademark would never hold up in court. Lemon and iTunes supported podcasts nearly a year before the filing in a commercial product. Even before those apps, the term had been coined and used by podcast pioneers.
- hunchback, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2But podcastready.com registered "Podcast Ready" as a trademark ...
Lets say sony, creative has a mp3 player (duh) and slaps "This device is podcast ready" on the box, does this in anyway violate Podcast Ready's trademark? - Lobster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you can get people talking about an overpriced fashion item
WOW
Way to go Apple
Linus is now I believe saying no one may use the word "FREE"
Go Penguin - pretentious, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Windows" was too generic to be copywrited for years, a 'windowing system' was coined well before MS's Windows OS and until only recently did MS get the trademark because of this.
This was recently questioned in court with Lindows (now Linspire), they tried to argue this very case of ‘Windows’ being a generic term, obviously it was unsuccessful. - blankartist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Ah, reminds me of the good ol' days when Apple tried to sue Microsoft because they stole the pointing finger cursor icon. I think that was back with Windows 3...? Needless to say they lost that battle too.
- illego, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I for one am for the term Netcast, why? You get it from the net (for the most part, you could possibly get it from a friend but still) and it's a broadcast of sorts.
Let Apple have podcast, and let those who feel their audience isn't just iPod owners, move to a new name.
Unfortunately this won't catch on :. - Ascus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1to shut Apple up, all the sites should refer to podcasts as "zunecasts". It would not be long before Apple would be re-encouraging podcasting.
- clickmyface, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well Lakawak clearly I struck a vain with you...
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Go play your xbox you self-hating digger. :) - afruff23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wrong. Apple records associated "apple" with music. That's why Apple computer ahs to pay them off.
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