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- nickway, on 10/12/2007, -13/+117I am a hardcore mac fan.
The dell 30" is just as "immense"
What is "immense" apple monitors is thier price. - eleven, on 10/12/2007, -14/+77Geesh... when the ***** are they going to add in a freaking iSight camera?!
- NeoZenkai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+41Cheaper isn't the right word. Uber-expensive to not-so-uber-but-still-uber-expensive is more like it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35The drop in prices is indicative of new upcoming models. It's safe to say that production for these has stopped.
- philippbock, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30Still too expensive for me.
- ngmcs8203, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30@nick
I couldn't agree with you more. Going through Dell to get the same monitor, just in a different color, still sounds better to me since they still seem to be cheaper than paying for the Apple product. - zioxide, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27What everyone seems to forget is that all of the Apple Displays use 8-bit color panels, and 95% of the 20'' monitors like the samsung and other brands that are around $250 all use 6-bit color panels, so you're only getting 250,000 actual colors. The rest are simulated. On the 8-bit Apple Displays and some of the more expensive Dell displays (like the 30'') display the complete 16.7 million colors with no simulation. That is why the Apple's are more expensive than your cheaper displays that you can get on newegg for around $250.
- SkullWolf, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23It can't be, overpriced apple hardware? : O
- JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Only if you are unsecure about your value and feel the need to buy Apple hardware to justify your goals in life.
- Mejogid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18I'm not entirely sure why Apple's UK pricing is so awfull, particularly for accessories. Sure, we're used to extortionate pricing but 190% is ridiculous - http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=D5BB854C&nclm=AppleDisplays . I can get an extremely comparable 20" Dell for less than half the price, which is ridiculous IMHO -http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1&sku=78642 . It really frustrates me when I see them cutting US prices again while ours remain sky high.
- StarManta, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24Yeah, Apple's monitors really aren't worth it. Compared to the monitor I just got:
Apple Cinema 20" widescreen, 1680x1050, 700:1 contrast, 16ms response, $599
Sceptre 20" widescreen, 1680x1050, 1000:1 contrast, 5ms response, $229
the Apple display has a builtin USB/firewire hub, sure, but that is NOT worth $380. I could get two Sceptre's, two USB hubs, and probably two firewire hubs for the price of the ACD. - jhutcheson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Not to be picky, but this is a pretty inaccurate headline - These are not new releases insomuch as it is merely just a price drop for already released products.
- JorgeGT, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1899.9% of people wouldn't be able to point the difference to save their lives.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Cheaper but not cheap.
- srodolff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15BFD. Dell's 24" is $629 and 30" is $1,499.
What's the justification for a name? - cjmal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14they didn't "release" anything, it's called a price drop.
- spiffyfitz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Apple's monitors don't have card readers or multiple video inputs either.
That 27" Dell looks more tempting than ever. - diulei, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19Sheesh - the price Apple wants people to pay for design.
I got my 20" Dell 2 years ago for less $200 less than the Apple equivalent after this price drop - they use the same LG LCD too. And I'm a huge Apple fan. Though of course, this is not to say those displays aren't gorgeous. Just damn expensive.
@eleven
Methinks these price drops and indicative of an update. It's been a long, long time since Apple updated their monitors. - ricksite, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16The Firewire iSight is no longer available from Apple and they released an update to allow regular USB web cams to work with iChat. I think we may have seen the last of the iSight peripheral.
- zioxide, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20That Sceptre uses a crappy panel and is only 6-bit color. The rest of the colors are simulated, where the Apple uses the best type of panel on the market (S-IPS) and the panel is full 8-bit so there's no color simulation, they are all displayed.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13do they know about the exchange rate or do they just change the $ for £?
bet they wouldn't do that with the Yen. - gthiruva, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Nice price! But I looked at the tech specs: 700:1 contrast ratio and 14 ms response time - not that impressive.
- ZakColeman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14Cool, one more price drop and the 30'' is mine! bahahahbaha... /evil.
- TheSaladMan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9In the UK the Apple 20" display costs the same as a Dell 24" display which has more inputs.... so why should I buy an Apple monitor?
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13People like Apple moniters for their build quality, support and style. If you don't want to shell out the extra bucks you don't have to. It's worth noting that these Apple displays are still waaaay overpriced in Europe.
In the States the 30" is now $1799, what would that price be after tax? Cause the same moniter works out at $2979 after tax here in Europe!!! - Subiklim, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Buried. "Respectively" used without describing the monitors you are matching the price to in respect.
- pyrates, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Dell is cheaper for the same quality. I'll stick with Dell.
- zakatov, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17"Proof Perfect
The color on Apple Displays is so good that you can use them in a SWOP-certified (Specification for Web Offset Publications) soft-proofing workflow. Display-based proofing system Remote Director from Integrated Color Solutions and Matchprint Virtual Proofing from Kodak are both SWOP certified. The prestigious SWOP certification means you can use a soft-proofing solution to approve jobs for press production on-screen, without the need for hard-copy proofs-providing significant time and cost savings for print professionals.
Certified systems are capable of producing proofs visually identical to the SWOP Certified Press Proof, as defined in ANSI CGATS TR 001, Graphic Technology. ICS and KPG choose Apple displays because they’re capable of creating onscreen proofs with virtually the same brightness and feel as paper."
Source: Apple.com
You get what you pay for. - hackmyballs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Say you have $1800
Would you buy one 30", two 23" or better three 20"?
Any special video card to hook up three monitors?
No, really, I am considering that option - diulei, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I can't say I'm surprised.
Last time I was in London all the numbers for prices everywhere were roughly equivalent to USD, which didn't bother me until I remembered the exchange rate and my cappuccino ended up costing US$6. - blackbrutha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Although these monitors are kickass the price sucks turds. I still want one though.
- DPimp1262, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The 20 inch is still at least 200 bucks more expensive then comparable displays from other manufacturers. Doesn't stop me from drooling over that 30 inch display though.
- uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yep ... And for like $40 you can slap a 3yr warranty on the refurb. Seems like the best deal out there right now.
- IMustBeEmo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@erubi: You say that like yours is so much better.
- etherag, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@macdaddy23 - Sorry, but as others have said... Dell monitors use the same exact LG LCD as the cinema displays, and are still way cheaper than apple. With the cinema displays, you're paying for the name and the pretty silver case.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I have a 20.1 inch Sceptre monitor on my Mini that I got for under $200 and I can tell you it's amazing. I would rather have two of these for well under the price of one ACD. I have two ACD's on my mac pro and for ***** I just hooked my sceptre up to the same machine as the ACD, opened a large graphic and stuck it between the two. The colors and quality were nearly identical, even when moving it around. They (the sceptre monitors) are more than worth their price.
- koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@ Ireland: Same here in Asia... Apple products are ridiculously expensive thanks to VAT, import tax etc.
- animefx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4There is a small chance that the cinema displays won't be updated for awhile... 10-bit displays are now available as is 120hz processing for high(er) end hdtvs. Apple could make the jump to 10-bit panel technology to further distance them from the cheaper 6-bit lcds you primarly see on the market today.
As an amateur photographer I would love the to see the extra color depth, but right now the 10-bit panels are fairly expensive. If Apple releases an update to the cinema displays now, that means no 10-bit displays for at least a year if not 18 months. If they wait 8 months, they could be cheap enough to sell at current cinema display prices. - Lostangel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7They're just super expensive monitors and not even that great spec wise. You can buy a MUCH better monitor for about half the price that has a thinner border and looks better in every way possible. I have absolutely no idea why anyone with half a brain would buy an Apple monitor unless you're an extreme fanboi. These monitors were up to date when they first came out like what 5 years ago? They're just plain stupid now considering the advances in technology.
- bmobile, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@ zioxide: Yeah, that's exactly why I buy the Dell Ultrasharp panels. They cost a bit more than the Sceptres but they use the S-IPS (8-bit) panel. Some people have said to me that they probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference and I just have to laugh at them. I've seen 6-bit panels before and they suck hardcore. Always go 8-bit...
- 35263526, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I love my Dell. I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to pay even these reduced prices just for the luxury of an Apple logo.
- listrophy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Remember to consider the idea of getting an Apple Select Developer membership ($500) if you're buying a new mac... especially if you're a student ($100). The discounts (1 "computer" purchase per year) afforded to Select Developers often outweighs the membership cost. For instance, buying the pre-configured Mac Pro with or without the membership costs the same. Do any upgrades from the base configuration, and you're saving money already. Also, you can buy a cinema display at a discount with the Mac Pro to complete the "computer" purchase.
That, and you get other benefits, like the Leopard Early Starter Kit and 2 Tech Support incidents free.
There are caveats, though. Students get one discounted purchase ever (ie: not per year) until they upgrade to Select. Also, you need to buy some pretty hefty hardware to break even. You're not going to break even on a Mac Mini. - bhovenkotter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yes, and after you're done with school you'll feel like you have lots of money (unless you've buried yourself in student loans). But then you'll get married, buy a house, and have children and you'll be poor again even though you're making what sounds like a lot of money.
It's not too bad though, my wife has green-lighted 2 Mac laptops in the past 2 years and I'm warming her up to the iPhone. - Saiing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3>Yah its wierd that they didnt add the iSight in this time.
It's not weird at all. These monitors are not just for home users (especially the larger displays) - they're aimed at professionals in the creative industries who would rather just have a good quality monitor and not have to pay the extra cost for a stupid webcam which they're never going to use. Apple monitors are expensive enough as it is, without companies having to pay for unnecessary features they don't want. - rr525356, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5A refurbished 30" Dell screen is $1050...for $150 less you could have a stylish 23" ACD!
- atb12688, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Dell monitors > apple monitors. Their stands are also a lot more stable than apples.
- zackkitzmiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Marked as innacurate. They didn't release anything but lower prices.
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4For reference (these are the same actual screens, but with different color cases and slight differences in connections and such):
Apple 20" = $599
Dell 20" = $359
Apple 23" = $899
Dell 24" = $629 (Dell doesn't actually have a 23" monitor).
Apple 30" = $1799
Dell 30" = $1499
Most of the Dells have more connectivity options (DVI, some of them have VGA and composite connections). They also have USB hubs built in.
The Apples are DVI only, and have both USB and Firewire hubs built in. And they're white instead of black.
The actual screens (except in the case of the 23/24) are identical. Same LCD manufacturer. - spargett, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Ahhhh... the 30" is such a clean, beautiful display. Something you can place anywhere in your home without it gunking up the aesthetics of your environment with all the garbage other manufacturers like to plaster all over their products.
- betterth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You have $1800 dollars? Get 3 of the Dell 24". You can find em like 600$ online if you search.
I just bought a /gorgeous/ Dell 22" widescreen around $260. It's simply the best monitor I've ever owned. Get like six of them. :) -
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