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Apple pushing Safari downloads on Windows users
appleinsider.com — In an apparent bid to rapidly gain share of the online browser market dominated by rival Microsoft, Apple is leveraging its vast iTunes install base to recommend that Windows users also download and install the latest version of its Safari web browser.
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Sounds like some other company I've heard of...hmmm
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...at least they aren't auto-installing it, 'cause we all know taht's what MS would do if they had the option.
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I think this is blown way out of proportion... while it is a bit annoying that it even offers, its not like you don't have the option to say no. And if it does install, is it going to harm your computer? With the exception of Quicktime, iTunes, and Safari icons being added to the taskbar, no it will not.
I really see this as a perfectly good way to get the word out about Safari to the 99% of people out there that have no freaking clue. -
I was uploading songs to my ipod and I see a message asking me to install safari....fuuuuuuuuuuck that! firefox is all i need
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Latest version kept crashing my XP laptop. I uninstalled it and all is good again. Use at your own risk.
Note: I like Safari -- it just didn't play well on my Compaq laptop. :( -
Wow, imagine the outrage if Microsoft did this.
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Can anyone verify whether or not the newly installed Safari will set itself as the default browser?
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I was quite surprised to see Apple Software Update popup and telling me there was an update for Itunes: Safari 3.1. I almost panicked, searching for that old safari install on my machine and then I realized it was nothing more then adware from my friendly software dealer... Apple.
Thanks Apple for the spam, next time, just dont. -
By definition of software that installs unwanted software onto a computer, apple software update is malware. It does this with Quicktime and iTunes as well.
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Maybe firefox should reply by using firefox to download Thunderbird and Songbird. Few people seem to know how good Songbird is, much more intuitive than iTunes. I think Apple should get out of the browser business their hardware and OS's are fine, but Safari is crappy. Even on the Mac, but on windows, I've tried it and I have found it to be completly unusable. And of course there is no Linux version, etc.
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why would i EVER use safari over firefox? apple, stick your ugly head back into the cave and don't try to push your proprietary ***** built upon open source down my throat. thanks
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I'm on a Mac and I don't use Safari, it's nowhere near as good as Firefox. Or should I say nowhere near as good as Firefox's expandability ( Read: Plug-ins )
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Apple apologists arrive in 3.. 2.. 1..
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I spent the last month finding out what browser was best for my old desktop (mylaptop is dead). On an Athalon 1400 1.1 Ghz, and 256 mb of ram - Safari works the best. Opera doesn't render a lot of the pages I visit properly; I love firefox, but it takes up way too memory;Safari worked the best. It uses a lot less memory and loads pages pretty darn fast. Note: I dont use I.E. because when it crashes Windows Explorer tends to crash to, no need to explain why, and that takes a little longer to recover from.
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You Firefox people are kidding yourselves - it's slow and clunky next to Safari. Why not join the rest of us in the 21st Century?
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I bailed on ITunes because of the darn quicktime stuff it insists on running. I like Apple stuff but sometimes I wonder if they hired the CEOs of Kazaa and Real Networks.
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Firefoxies, attack!
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I think I speak for a lot of folks when I say this:
***** you, Apple. -
One of the reasons I won't use Safari on my several Windows machines? No support for Google Toolbar.
Call me "un-open", digg me down... whatever. But Google Toolbar is one of the most useful tools I have. The Spell Check I use, the Bookmarks is great for having the same bookmarks across countless machines, and the Autofill saves time. -
Digg is getting creepy. I go to the main page and as soon as I click the message pops up and I see the Digg article simultaneously.
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it's fast and buggy...the end
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Safari is fast but broke in so many ways. If you know anything about about compatibility or web standards its Opera or Firefox. Even IE7 isnt as bad in some ways as Safari.
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Safari is great, its lighter than firefox , you can also use adblock with it, so why not?
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Anything that promotes standards-compliant browsers like Safari, Opera, and Firefox over IE is ok by me.
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If it gets a few users using a safer browser than IE it's worth it.
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There is no way Windows Safari even comes remotely close to being as good as Firefox on windows.
If you just use a Macintosh you likely don't know this.
Plus Firefox is open source. That's our digital freedom. -
I'll stick with firefox, thanks.
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***** Apple, only retarded sheep buy that brand. Do you know how many ***** people walk around with that? And they still think they're individuals, pathetic.
Apple has totally dominated the market (not the whole market, you know what I mean), and when, my friends, a company is able to do that, is what we consider a bad thing. So therefore, Apple, taking control of everything, is the same as what you guys call M$, who a lot of you like to bash, but are sucking Apple's dick at the same time. -
SWEET! More competition in the fray!!! This means that firefox and Microsoft will have to work that little bit harder to maintain their dominance! User wins!!!!
I personally won't touch this ***** with a ten foot pole though. -
Haha, I saw iTunes try to do this earlier. I just clicked no like I do to all the other fkn updates that apple and adobe throws at me.
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I have been hyping my mac up to my friend for over a year....he of course is a loyal pc guy but I was able to talk him into an iphone. Well anyways i keep telling him he needs to get a mac and he usually tells me to ***** off...well i just came up and received this IM from him.
im ***** off
12:16 AMi loaded safari internet browser on my laptop and its waaaaaaaaay ***** faster than internet explorer
im ***** because i know you would enjoy to know that and talk ***** about how great macs air...... well sir, ***** you, safari, and mac air laptops!!!
BTW this was so funny that i finally got a Dig logon just so I could post this.... -
Itunes is an annoying mess to run. More updates than thought possible, ***** quicktime, and it nags the ***** out of you unitl you update and restart. Sure once it's open it's not as bad, but even there it is a bloated mess at times.
Based on the itunes experience they are going to push people to use safari? Sure, people use itunes. May do so reluctantly. I have many friends and family who only use it often enough to update thier ipod. They use winamp or another option to play files back day to day on thier pc, and itunes to update thier ipod, since they have to. It's hard enough getting people to use firefox over IE, now Apple is going to ask those same people to switch again? Won't happen. -
20 years of claiming to be a hardware company, and they're still a software company, eh?
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This only happens if you install the Apple Software Update utility when you install iTunes. I *always* do a custom install on ANY software I install to make sure I know what I'm installing.
If you've already installed Apple Software Update, you can uninstall it via Add/Remove Programs. -
Yet more proof Apple is every bit as evil as Microsoft.
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Am I the only one but I tried installing Safari on my XP desktop and my two Vista laptops and couldn't get it working. I think I'm happy with firefox.
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Not a firefox fanboy (I use a combo of Firefox and yes IE7), but I can provide one word that will blow everything away and give Firefox a big heads up: Firebug. For developers no browser even comes close to offering such a great developer add on.
Lastly Safari fails in regards to full javascript and CSS support. -
firefox>safari.
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It's a misleading suggestion since a Web Browser has no connection to a Media player.
But until Internet Explorer (and other non-revenue market leverage software) get regulated onto 'Extra Discs" then you can hardly blame them.
Often fighting dirty can only really be countered fighting dirty back. Lowers the standard, but that's reality when markets are allowed to be dirty. -
Will someone please explain to me how this isn't malware?
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I can see that there are a ton of Apple fans here posting with lots of common sense and intelligence...
Anyway, it's real simple. If you don't want to install it, don't. It doesn't install itself without you clicking yes. You can uncheck the box and say ignore, and it won't bother you about it again. So Windows users, rather than just clicking on everything without reading, take a few seconds to realize what you're doing. I think it's great that Apple is leveraging their iTunes/QuickTime market share to get Safari out there. If anything, it keeps IE and Firefox developers on their toes. Remember, Microsoft really didn't do too much with IE for a few years until Firefox started gaining speed.
So in summary... if you don't want it, don't install it! -
***** safari and IE, firefox ftw!
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Yeah, got an e-mail from my parents today about this. Like most older people just doing web browsing and e-mail, they have no idea what Safari is or why Apple Software Update wanted to install it. That's really the barometer for the utility of a move like Apple made: If the generation with the most spending power and least computer experience can't figure it out in 10 seconds, it is a stupid thing to offer to install by default.
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I'm a web developer so I need all the browsers to test if they work. But I dont see the big deal. It doesn't act as a piece of malware on your computer or anything. Thing I don't like about Safari though is the font smoothing and how you cannot turn that off.
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point is - apple software update should be showing updates for what i chose to install (itunes & quicktime). that is all. it's not a ***** billboard.
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Apple is the new Microsoft!
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@whereisljefe
True, Firefox 3 has low memory consumption but my powerbook G4 CPU simply can't handle it. Safari is the only browser that can really work quick on my laptop. -
"Mac OS X is a quaint neighborhood where little Safari was safe. By comparison, Windows is a gang-ridden ghetto: life is survival, and it's tough going."
I beg to differ, its mostly noobs that are having pc problems..people need to get educated..its not windows fault that the users surf porn and get trojans/spyware. APPLE SUCKS! Safari should stay on MAC, ITS SUCKS FOR PC. END! -
Yay, more annoying stuff to slow down the already painfully long install of Apple's bloat ware, iTunes, on my Windows machine. Where the ***** is my iTunes light. The one that is 4mb, takes 30 seconds to install, and doesn't use globs of RAM. Why can't the assholes that wrote iTunes write a built in software updater? Why do I need to install another program to check for updates. I'm so happy there are open source alternatives to iTunes. iTunes could be a usable program if it wasn't so bloated.
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Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess. Anything to turn around the 40% stock drop.
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