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- toetagger, on 11/25/2007, -11/+30I can't wait until the interactive porn!
- Izacus, on 11/25/2007, -10/+27So it's basically a bent Microsoft Surface.
- PeppermintPig, on 11/25/2007, -0/+9They took 'ur jobs!
- toetagger, on 11/25/2007, -1/+10Well, if my girlfriend was a little more interactive...
- ghinch, on 11/25/2007, -1/+7To everyone clamoring about how this is just what Microsoft already did with surface: have you actually tried using it? I got a chance to play with one of the prototype tables, and comparing it to my experiences with the iPhone (I don't have one but it seems like everyone else does so I've used enough of them), I have to say that Apple's multi-touch solution vastly outperforms Microsoft's. Also, the technologies are quite different, MS using a series of cameras where as Apple just uses some sort of multi-touch sensor behind the screen. Now whether or not that will translate to a larger scale has yet to be seen, but I would imagine they won't release some sort of public product using this until it does. By then, MS may have improved the Surface technology vastly, but right now it feels clunky, slow, and inaccurate.
- PeppermintPig, on 11/25/2007, -2/+8Scummy, scummy intellectual "property".
Guess this is one step closer to geek wet dreams for some people: An old, balding steve jobs on the bridge of his very own 'enterprise', and Bill Gates on a Borg cube raiding others for their technology. - rickbauls, on 11/25/2007, -4/+10Until then, I guess a girlfriend will have to do.
- tektalk, on 11/25/2007, -3/+8So many possibilities with this technology, I can't wait to see where Apple will go with this.
- noahhoward, on 11/25/2007, -0/+5The Corso stuff was debunked, but in all honesty neither of us knows simply because neither of us were there. There is no such thing as second hand truth.
- inkswamp, on 11/25/2007, -0/+5Those of you claiming this is obvious or that Apple is going overboard with patents need to remember that Apple, even recently with their $10M settlement with Burst.com, has a long history of competitors stealing their ideas and/or suing them for the use of these sort of "obvious" ideas. Apple is just protecting themselves against the unethical behavior of other, less worthy competitors.
Want to be outraged about it? Be outraged at companies like Creative. A lot of people were convinced that the column-like view of the iPod's navigation was so obvious that Creative's patent on it wouldn't stand up in court, and yet Apple ended up getting spanked good on that one. I don't blame Apple at this point. Their history is full of great ideas being ripped off by other companies. I have a hard time begrudging them some protection. - inactive, on 11/25/2007, -1/+6It is absurd that we're using, for the most part, the same input devices that were shipping with PCs in the late 80s.
Apple could pry me off the PC platform with meaningful improvements in the input interface. - 2shae, on 11/25/2007, -1/+6It's probably gonna be something like a glass keyboard that is touch sensitive.
- dblatti, on 11/25/2007, -3/+7I'm still waiting for apple legal to make me an offer on my "set of boobs" shaped multitouch input device.
- jadrian, on 11/25/2007, -2/+6The summary makes it sound like it's new stuff. It is not. They got the technology from Fingerworks. Fortunately I was able to get one of their Touchstreams right before they were bought. Cool stuff: http://www.fingerworks.com/ST_product.html
The software for it is open source and they even produced KDE and Emacs gestures that come with the system. Shame it was Apple who bought them as the new products most probably won't be this open or O.S.agnostic. - Drgn547, on 11/25/2007, -0/+4As long as it's an affordable, efficient and functional "multi-touch" input device... I don't care who makes it, I'll get one.
- noahhoward, on 11/25/2007, -4/+8No the Surface, like the iPhone is flat and works differently. Neither Microsoft or Apple came up with multi-touch but Apple's approach is different from the creator, Jeff Han's. Surface, and Jeff Hans designs, feature rear projection and use cameras to pick up your hand position and gestures. The iPhone's multi-touch technology obviously doesn't. This new device is nothing like the Surface.
- misterjangles, on 11/25/2007, -0/+3I'm so confused by this article. Are we supposed to love Apple or hate patents..? Please digg mob, show us the way!
- inkswamp, on 11/25/2007, -0/+3The patent itself explains the difference. Did you really want to know or are you trolling for reactions?
- gquaglia, on 11/25/2007, -1/+4Hmm, last I'd checked the set of the Enterprise used colored transparencies over blinking lights supported by a cut out wood panel. Apple's idea is for a real, functioning, ergonomic interface. If you know something different, please let us know.
- Pic0, on 11/25/2007, -1/+3no Apple created this so it is an innovation!
- Metal_Hurlant, on 11/26/2007, -0/+2> Three patent filings (...) open the door to (...)
By "open", you mean "close", of course.
A patent grants a monopoly on an invention, for the purpose of preventing the competition from doing the same thing.
When was the last time a patent made anything more open? (beside patents for doors and the like.) - PeppermintPig, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2Touch sensitive LCD keyboard would be interesting. Configurable control panel visuals for different applications... this would replace mice for most applications. Have to wait and see how responsive and accurate they are.
- inactive, on 11/26/2007, -1/+3no, like so many patents these days, Apple drew a picture of it. They can't produce it, but they hope to sue someone who can.
- toetagger, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch
- cliffzdude, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2I'd tend to agree, I'm very open to new ideas toward input, but I tend to think the input devices we use are really quite efficient. We are using the same control devices used to control a car for over 100 years now.
If it ain't broke... - addicted68098, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2I have had this idea for years, I just couldn't decided on a color for the trippy LED back light.
- Atomic1fire, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2and buttons that change depending on the program
you know what would be more useful though
a touch screen remote with different modes such as a simple mode and a advanced mode for the ultrageek
it could have a built in tv guide with the option of selecting the channel by show - inkswamp, on 11/25/2007, -0/+2Both companies copy each other. From what I've seen, Apple takes an idea and improves it in ways that make the previous implementations look archaic. Take for example, Apple "stealing" fast user switching. On Windows, it's rare to have FUS turned on because it conflicts with a variety of features in XP (and where I work, we use a lot of Windows software that just won't run properly in a FUS environment); on OS X, it's damn near flawless.
On the other hand, Microsoft takes an idea and copies it, usually badly and usually with the intent to reclaim some market from another company. Take for example the Zune, a wannabe product that exists only to keep MS's toe in the music pool. - PeppermintPig, on 11/25/2007, -1/+3Well, paradox aside, you do raise a good point. At the rate of technological advance, how does it make sense to suggest that we've only applied silicon chip technology from these future humans? They're still using silicon chips that far into the future? Seems absurd! Surely at our current rate of advancement, we'll be moving onto devices that defy production feasibility a decade before sooner than that! The further you go, the more difficult it is to establish the means of production, but given the successive advances, it's absurd to suggest all we've reverse engineered thus far are a few basic computer concepts. Furthermore, this theory also fails to explain how competing businesses were able to keep all this information about advanced technology a secret. Cartels don't work: One of these companies would have had the incentive to produce the best possible devices, or reveal documentation to prove this claim.
- puto, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1Jesse Marcel said it was of unknown origin and he was a first hand witness and part of the US intelligence. There was no reason for him to lie.
However yes the roswell film was debunked AFAIK - joerod, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1a virtual keyboard for their tablet computer
- ljfrench, on 11/25/2007, -0/+1I'll be surprised if they get much farther in the patenting process. Back in 2000, I worked with two engineers at the University of Delaware who patented this same input mechanism (sans overlayed display). See USPTO at:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PT ... - DaleoftheUK, on 11/25/2007, -3/+4"I can't wait until the interactive porn!"
It's ok, he said it, no need for any more comments. - inactive, on 11/27/2007, -0/+1I was giving this some more thought on my way home and I remembered that there are actually several technologies to improve the inputs for automobiles. In fact the proximity sensors are being used to break some models of car if they are approaching a object too quickly. Also, some cars are starting to incorporate voice recognition and biometrics as inputs.
I think that part of the slowness of adoption with vehicles is that people tend to like full control of their car. After all, your life is on the line. Having a touch screen on my laptop does not put me in mortal danger. Further, it is an obvious evolution of input technology as is voice recognition. - notadiggtard, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1Time machine is a copy of what?Say"System Restore"and oyu are an idiot.Have a Ricola.
- pranavbhat, on 11/25/2007, -1/+2it cant be like surface, coz as far as history goes microsoft copies apple technologies, its not the other way round...hehe!!
- phoomp, on 11/25/2007, -3/+4Except, of course, when Apple does it second, makes a bigger show of it, and the fanboys accuse Microsoft of copying it (...cough...TimeMachine ... cough)
- inactive, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1The difference would be that Creative actually produced a product and patented it. Apple violated the patent thinking they could break it and lost. Apple has now applied for patents on something that, while they have some similar products in the iTouch and iPhone, they cannot produce. The patent is also similar to products actually being produced by other companies, and I think they are hoping to sue anyone with a competing device out of actually producing it. Not moral or ethical thing to do, but it is business.
- sakuraz, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1But sometimes she's unresponsive to commands....
- russ3, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1how exactly does a piece of glass wear out?
- notadiggtard, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1If it's not new they can't patent it.
- LeeSoong, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1"I Will give up my buckling spring IBM 104 keyboard when they pry it from my cold dead hands!'
NKA - National Keyboard Association.
http://www.pckeyboard.com/customizer.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_Keyboard - LeeSoong, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1Tom Cruise Will be pleased...
- err404, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1... to the Final Frontier. looks like step one to LCARS
- LeeSoong, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1Big Ass Table - Why not use a device the size of a small car to do the same job?
- notadiggtard, on 11/26/2007, -0/+1Wear out???Tell me more-I have an iPhone
- deltaandroid, on 11/25/2007, -1/+1as you touched on, asuming that all of this was true, then maybe thats all we managed to reverse engineer so far. Maybe their systems don't even work on a binary base, who knows what kind of odd systems that would use. Also, as we can see even in the past 150 years, peoples intelligence is slowly advancing. Maybe we can't even comprehend what they make!
- thinkindiff, on 11/25/2007, -1/+1Microsoft Surface Parody
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY&feature=rel ... - inactive, on 11/26/2007, -1/+1Power steering, power breaks, ALB, and traction control existed 100 years ago?
- notadiggtard, on 11/26/2007, -0/+0Thanks!I wanted to post that link but was too lazy...
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