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- MikeOSX, on 02/13/2008, -0/+52Worst. Title. Ever.
- inactive, on 02/13/2008, -0/+21Apple TV Review Comment: Apple TV 2.0 Review Comment
- borez, on 02/13/2008, -1/+18I'd have one tomorrow if it supported .avi files, but alas... it doesn't.
- derekivey, on 02/13/2008, -0/+14Nice comment spam. According to that domain's whois, it looks like you own that site!
- mpn401, on 02/13/2008, -3/+15The future of TV is over the internet. I predict cable companies ditching their bandwidth wasting analog channels for an IP-centric architecture.
- MikeOSX, on 02/13/2008, -6/+17When you purchased your DVD player, were the DVDs free?
- Versh, on 02/13/2008, -1/+11Either that or there should be a permanent link for "Today on Gizmodo.com..."
:[ - yikiad, on 02/13/2008, -6/+15because nobody likes a whiner
- demesisx, on 02/13/2008, -4/+11Ok, so let's play this same game with Bluray/HD-DVD.
So... you have to pay $600 for the box, then if you want to watch those movies you have to go to the store to buy them first? and BluRay and HD-DVD are good because....? - danieleran, on 02/13/2008, -3/+10Gizmodo just throws out a scale of 1-10, where 1 is VHS and 10 is BluRay, and calls HD Cable a 7 and Apple TV HD a 5. It's too bad they didn't actually do any comparative testing before making that up.
iLounge did a great photo comparison that actually shows HD Cable is worse than upscaled DVD, and that Apple TV HD is very similar to BluRay. Even so, they dismissed Apple TV at $229 as too expensive, without pointing out that a PS3 costs $400 and any other BR is even more. - vertigoblue, on 02/13/2008, -0/+7... like "On Demand"?
- kurtwinter, on 02/13/2008, -0/+6Nope nope nope. Until it can view all the media on my computer, don't want it. It should be able to play back DVD rips, Divx, Xvid, Matroska, and the "premium" content. By the way, not paying $5 for a video I can only watch in a 24 hour time frame with a 30 day expiration period. Not ***** happening.
- tomisina, on 02/13/2008, -2/+7you can get plugins for quicktime that supports .avi files... and then play those from your FrontRow and presumably AppleTV
- tomisina, on 02/13/2008, -2/+6why dont they let you browse & buy movies through FrontRow... it makes no sense that they should restrict that ability to just the AppleTV... someone will say that's because they want to sell more AppleTVs, but it seems reasonable that the movie sales would outweigh that -- they make money on the content not the hardware
- yikiad, on 02/13/2008, -2/+6it does with a simple hack, for what it's worth. or you can just do what i do and have a netflix account and handbrake....
- bigtizzle, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4Who the ***** is buying episodes of T.J. Hooker?
- Urkel, on 02/13/2008, -1/+5Its a bit annoying when people say Handbrake and VisualHub is the solution for the AppleTV not having support for popular codecs. Converting video takes a long time, degrades video quality and creates redundant files. As consumers shouldn't we be making demands to these companies rather than excuses to defend them?
- TheDreadDiggerD, on 02/13/2008, -0/+4So, the Apple Pippen 2.0?
- Urkel, on 02/13/2008, -0/+3It is absolutely sickening that only 20hrs after its release anyone can go out and make recommendations for people to buy something. How about actually USING the product before making their reviews?
- Resolver, on 02/13/2008, -1/+4this title brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
- Blandyman, on 02/14/2008, -1/+4Because you're a ***** imbecile and we're all tired of hearing the same ***** question of, "How is this ***** on the front page with only xx diggs?!" SHUT THE ***** UP. I HATE YOU.
- secretmode, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2Apple TV Review Comment Reply: Apple TV 2.0 Review Comment Reply
- Lewiji, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2I think that was the point.
- ExSlashdotter, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3Netflix + Handbrake
ThePirateBay + VisualHub
You're all set now. - borez, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3Aha! So they do, didn't know that, I always use VLC and not Quicktime. Thx.
- voisine, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2I'm pretty sure the number of diggs isn't a big factor in deciding what hits the front page. There was an article a week or two back explaining it has more to with diggers with diverse interests digging it.
- meltingrobot, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2I looked at that the other day actually, do they support playing iso over smb/cifs? I saw they supported avi/xvid/divx.
- schoate09, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2It already does most of it.
- agarc, on 02/15/2008, -0/+2A little over a month ago, I was very skeptical about the value of purchasing an Apple TV. What I saw in the store was not impressive. Three weeks ago, I went to a cocktail party at an apartment that had just been remodeled. Aside from the nice, built-in 5.1 system and 54" plasma TV, an Apple TV was sitting on the designer bookshelf. The TV was displaying beautiful pictures of plants and flowers while bossa nova was playing in the background. My friend then showed off the Apple TV interface, which was just like Front Row. I was immediately impressed at how nice the setup and presentation was... Beautiful music, and beautiful pictures while a party was going on. That weekend, on a Friday, a couple of coworkers and I decided to walk across the street to the new Apple Store (W 14th in Manhattan) to look at toys. I don't know what got into me (my own fanboyism?), but I casually purchased the 40GB Apple TV. The following morning, I was stunned to see how well my music and movies played (streaming)... I have a large collection of music and movies (mostly my own encodes). Initially I was concerned that the 40GB version wouldn't be large enough (I have over 1TB of content), but now I'm so glad I didn't spend the extra money. The streaming is not noticeable at all. Movies large and small start playing immediately (fast forwarding is a bit slow at first). Also, there's no degradation in quality when you're streaming content. Now I realize that there's hardly a reason at all to sync (store) to the Apple TV... the streaming is that good.
Now I find myself listening to music in the morning. I have even found myself looking at old photo albums (the update adds Flickr and .Mac support). I also watch a lot of the movies and TV shows that had just been sitting in my hard drives. I have a 40" 1080p TV, and the quality is definitely good enough for watching movies and entertaining. I have not tried renting movies yet (I'm not interested in renting anyway).
With the latest update, the streaming seems even faster, and movie previews begin instantly. The iTunes integration is seamless and very well executed. Of course, the interface is extremely easy to use and full-featured. iPhoto integration also works very nicely.
Bottom line: I really think the Apple TV is worth the $229 USD (as long as your content library isn't full of AVI containers). I find myself using it a lot more often than I had anticipated. Having all the content in one small, elegant little box will likely impress your friends and guests while entertaining. I highly recommend getting Handbrake, if you haven't got it already! - MacParrot, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3Apple doesn't make all that much off content and never say never. Amazon sells MP3s that play quite well on iPods.
- superspud, on 02/13/2008, -3/+5$4, or £2 to rent a film - without driving into town to get a DVD or waiting for DVD's to arrive in the post. Awesome.
If only it was this sweet in the UK. I reckon when this hits our shores, it will cost £4 for SD and £8 for High Def.
You americans don't know how lucky you have it! - MacParrot, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2Don't be a douche bag troll
- Gryffydd, on 02/13/2008, -0/+2A new review from Gizmodo, the paragon of online professional journalism. I think I'll skip it.
- superkendall, on 02/13/2008, -1/+3Actually other standalone Blu-Ray units have been selling more for around $300, dipping to $249 every now and then with sales.
I remain dubious that the Apple TV quality is as close to Blu-Ray as that, the 720p factor alone would say right off teh bat there will be some decrease in quality. That and the sounds is compressed much more highly. I think it's better than Gizmodo makes out, but iLounge seems a little too far the other way. - judicar, on 02/13/2008, -4/+6I was going to reply but this comment is just too supid.
- BrendanSheehan, on 02/13/2008, -1/+2"Watch amateurs make amateur-grade video."
How could someone say that at this stage, clearly they are missing the good stuff on the Tube. - Peavey, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1Yes, Netflix may have cheaper plans, but to get 4 DVDs at a time you have to pay the equivalent of 4-5 Apple TV rentals. Some people pay that much for Netflix, but only watch 4-5 videos a month. Now, in my opinion they are wasting their money by paying so much and not utilizing what they have to the fullest, but there are people that have they kind of money to waste.
- Peavey, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1No, Apple makes money on the hardware, not on selling content through the iTunes Store.
Also, since you can buy stuff through iTunes the only reason to put the ability to purchase content through Front Row would be if you were going to use your Mac as a Media Center PC, and the majority of people aren't going to buy a Mac Mini for their Media Center PC now that they can buy the Apple TV for less than half the price.
And, if you really want to record TV shows, why not just get a TiVo? If you don't want to pay the monthly fee, then build your own Linux box as a DVR. Chances are you could build it for less than the price of the Mac Mini, and it will work as your Media Center PC. - etnin, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1The biggest improvement for me is that I no longer have to wait 2+ minutes for the apple TV to "connect" to my itunes library on my PC....the movies and shows just show up on the list if itunes is running.
- MacParrot, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1Apple has always made their money on the hardware. That's part of the reason why OS X has never been (though I am hopeful) sold for generic PCs. Apple could easily do so and if the Mac marketshare gets high enough, maybe they will. Just list a hardware set required or OEM it to other PC makers.
Sorry for the topic hijack. BOT
The AppleTV has interested me since it was announced but one thing has kept me from buying it. No optical drive means that it's yet another box fighting for space to an input. I've got lots of disks and would prefer an all-in-one solution rather than a piecemeal one. Something else they could do that would make it much more consumer friendly would be to have HDMI or component inputs on the back and have those inputs accessable through Front Row. Beef up the remote to allow you to control multiple devices programmed through a USB device kinda like the Belkin one. Just a thought. - sammykeyes, on 02/14/2008, -1/+2Of course. When you have to apply hacks to make things 'just work', it really takes fun out of the experience. Average consumers won't like this.
That's why I stick with WMC. - jjustice, on 02/15/2008, -0/+1Can someone explain to me why the headline is repeated twice?
- dvdd127, on 02/14/2008, -1/+2still not rushing out to buy an AppleTV.. no native support for WMV... which means I still can not watch The Lab with Leo Laporte on my TV.
- MacParrot, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1I don't think the world is exactly clamoring for an Apple video game set-top box. That's a cut-throat biz that is pretty well fed by Nintendo/MS/Sony. Of course I thought the same about cell phones before the iPhone was released. If Apple goes into games, they will probably do it with simpler fare downloaded and played via AppleTV
- somesthetic, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1I cant buy tv shows, rent movies, or download podcasts directly from my PS3.
Its the podcasts that really irk me, because even the goddamn PSP has an RSS setup for podcasts. - superkendall, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1I think they means in terms of pure cost, but even there Netflix is somewhat cheaper since Blu-Ray rentals cost no extra, and you can get more than four movies a month.
I like buying TV shows on iTunes but movie rentals there leave me cold. - Blandyman, on 02/14/2008, -0/+1because adults don't play video-games... right...
- TypeEE, on 02/13/2008, -0/+1A better title will be
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