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- shultzy055, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34"show me."
-Morpheus - alwaysmc2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30Well, Apple is like a series of tubes.
- devilshark, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Yet another unsubstantiated rumor....
- trghpy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+25Nobody has done a tablet worth mentioning.
A tablet should be less than a pound, everything on the market is just a laptop with a revolving monitor... Whoopdie doo.
A good tablet should be nothing more than an overpowered/over-sized PDA.
I have faith Apple will do a better job at designing a tablet, but i don't expect them to match my expectations. - Daveecee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19People like you make me weep for future generations.
- node3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10@flag/smack
If you are envisioning basically a Tablet PC running OS X, you are making a mistake.
Apple tends to make things better than the competition because Apple tends to truly understand the intersection of technology and humanity, while the rest tend to just be adept with technology. That's why people get so excited about Apple products. They make products that people actually *want* to use, while the rest make products that simply technologically meet the stated requirements.
The current Tablet PC's are little more than PC's shoehorned into a tablet. Expect a Tablet Mac to seem more like a product that a tablet computer *should* be.
It's just like the iPod. Up until then (and to a great extent, afterwards) all MP3 players have focused on getting a portable device to play music, and have thus been frustrating to use. The iPod focuses on solving the problem of getting music to the consumer wherever they are, whenever they want (which is the real problem MP3 players are supposed to solve. Getting a small box to play music is just the most obvious aspect of that problem). It's a subtle distinction, but it makes all the difference in the world. - runninmac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Could this be one of the "many great products in our pipeline," like Steve has been constantly saying since the Intel switch?
- 4NDr01D, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7but there is one more thing...
multi-touch [every finger, not just a stylus]
dual screen [like a laptop but with two touch screens]
apps scale and re-key to suit [hotkeys available, grahpics underhand]
3GSM + WiFi/Max connectivity
Wireless Battery Recharging
$1999 - waalter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Based on Apple's strategy (the "digital hub", iTunes store, iPod, and the upcoming iTV), I speculate this would be some type of universal remote that complemented existing Mac stuff.
- jonjackjon, on 10/12/2007, -20/+25The business world needs a PDA with wifi that actually works! Apple could conquer that market easily and blow windows mobile away.
- virtualball, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"A good tablet should be nothing more than an overpowered/over-sized PDA."
The Newton? - alwaysmc2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I like mine because I can just sit back in my chair and surf the net I mean work.
Using a tablet is just comfy. - Barlo_Mung, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6If apple is going to be serious about a Tablet PC they have a lot of work to do to improve their hand writing recognition. The current state of their Inkwell system is not so good.
- alwaysmc2, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10I think even moderate Microsoft fanboys would mod you down, firemillen2.
I, however, am a fanboy to no one! :P - jodamiller, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8"Show me."
-Missouri - rhesuspieces00, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3meh. it will probably be good for apple to make one, since I've herad a lot of people moan about wanting one, but I still don't see whats so attractive about tablet PCs. I've used them, and except for playing NintendoDS style games, they seem kind of pointless to me.
- rickcarson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@smack.
Meh. Seeing a Flag564 comment is just God's way of telling you that you need to log in. - PeppermintPig, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Docking station? Like a Duo, heh? Why HDMI? Seems fishy!
- s-m-a-c-k, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7i know you guys hate flag, but in this instance he is right... but I guess if by "haven't yet done it right" means no Apple OS then technically you are correct... also Tablet PC come in two forms convertibles and slates...
- GeneralCoolman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What I heard being discussed is that the tablet unit that was being rumored would be the replacement for the iMac. It would be able to be taken to any room of the house and when you want to sit and work with a keyboard and mouse you'd set it in the docking station. Could be kind of interesting although I'm not sure what screen size would be comfortable, it would have to be pretty light.
- phogasmic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would be all over a Apple tablet. I had a PC tablet before I made the switch to Apple and I honestly miss some of the functionality of the tablet, it just seemed like a natural way to use the computer. Apple will do it right and I will defiantly pick one up.
- Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's about time!
I remember thinking that tablet PC's are a great thing after going to art school, and finding that I wish I could draw on my monitor with a stylus rather than on a separate wacom tablet and try to coordinate my hands and eyes when I'm used to simply looking at what I'm drawing (when illustrating in Photoshop, or Corel Painter). To do this with a Mac right now, you need to shell out several thousand dollars to get the Wacom Cintiq, but on tablet PC's you can just run Photoshop or Painter and draw right on the tablet. I've been bugging Apple with feedback requesting this for a while now. I'm glad they're finally doing something about it! - Midnightbrewer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I call BS. This article, in addition to being poorly written (bad grammar, inappropriate use of capitalization, poor use of vocabulary, typoes galore), is complete bogus, start to finish. How is Apple going to release a tablet that ties into third party applications to control the home? Have you noticed home automation is all the rage now? Have you noticed Apple's long history of working well with third parties? The correct answer would be "no" and "no." Apple likes to make the whole package, and Americans, as Apple's chief market, tend to find "too much technology" to be a bad thing. I mean, come on, a consumer-oriented Mac for controlling security feeds?
The feature set is ridiculous as well. Apple is focusing on education and the consumer, yet is making a device that includes connectors for HDMI?
I'll believe it when I see it. In the meantime, I think the author should learn to run a spell checker before trying to participate in the Apple rumor mill. - tomeitel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i dont know about this its hard to believe that it will come that fast after all the changes they have made in the last year.... but you never know steve and friends are always ready to blow you away again with somthing cool.... i would guess 2008 mabey!!!! but wait for the phone to come out to see how it works before dropping a tablet on the industry.... i dont think apple is that stupid.
- leftspin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's strange that everyone seems to be blasting the TabletPC form factor. Everyone I've let use mine (I've had it for 4 days) has said nothing but good things about it. Only one of they is a geek. The rest of them aren't even really computer literate.
I, before using a tablet, have been exclusively a Mac User since OSX beta.
I've been writing about my experience with it at http://autopoetic.blogs.com if you want to read about it. - sexycommando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I used to own one (Fujitsu T4000), and I think the tablet function is nice but overrated and makes the machine expensive to manufacture. In essence, a tablet is a very expensive and underpowered or semi-decent laptop that you can write on with a digitized pen. Typing is much faster, efficient, and I use my Macbook on my lap on the couch just fine.
I sold my tablet 6 months ago so I don't know about current tablets, but mine had a good deal of small hardware and software problems. The edges of the monitor would lag terribly with the digitizer pen, handwriting on anything ATE up RAM like it was nothing, and handwriting recognition was also a resource hog. I tried using it for my med school classes, but the damn thing would freeze up for a few seconds during fast paced lectures, overall a frustrating experience.
Motion Computing and Toshiba have the best tablets IMO but they are very very expensive, and I don't know how Apple would market a Tablet to the education industry if it was overpriced. Tablets do fit in some "verticle" niches like healthcare, but I have never seen a single doctor or healthcare professional use a tablet once in my life, and I've rotated at several large and well-funded hospitals. They're too bulky for doctors (doctors HATE carrying too many things around) and they don't work with existing EMR software.
If Apple does make a slate-form tablet, I doubt it will turn out to be much more than an expensive toy, or an artist's tool. - kd1s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Ok, if anything has driven the acronym thing it's SMS text messaging more than anything. The fewer characters you have to bang out, the better. Oh, and lots of technical terms are better left to acronyms. So they've bafaw, and all techies know what fubar really stands for.
As to l33t - it is hacker community and pretty easy to decipher. The news stations need to get their act together. Acronyms are one thing, but l33t isn't. - DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Apple Fanboy here...
I think this is BS and I am personally sick of all of the rumors. - mattp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sure, this is mostly a rumors, and perhaps a bit of speculation (depending on how you read it), BUT....
The evidence IS there, you just have to make a trip over to the US patent office web site and browse all the patents that Apple has filed recently, namely the ones dealing with a touch-screen interface.
It's almost certain that Apple is, and has been, working on a tablet PC in some form or another for a long time (back to the Newton)... now its just a matter of IF (or when) Apple (read:Steve Jobs) will choose to release it. - macbookpromat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Where did they hide the pics?
- bobcorrigan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A touch-screen Mac tablet will never survive the protein-rich finger smudges of the creative types who'll buy it. A touch-pad "video iPod", sure - but once it starts getting big and pretending to be a computer, the use case for an all-touch interface fails (for the mainstream buyer, that is).
- MattGrover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Dugg, cos it's interesting, however I'll wait to get all "Fanboy"over it until the moment just after Jobs says "One more thing..."
My views on the whole Apple+touch screen thing...
Touchscreen vid iPod: no thanks, if I'm gonna have a portable video player, I don't want my greasy finger smudges all over screen thanks.
iPhone: Yes please, with touchscreen in a similar form to the Windows phones that are out there, but seamlessly syncs with my Mac, cheers. Don't care about the music side of things tho.
iTablet: Hmm, personally I can't see that I'd have any use for one, I'm not really keen on Tablet PC's and for most of my stuff where I'm out n about, my iBook does me fine, it sits on my lap, I can type away, not a problem.
I can see Apple going for more of a home & media orientated device rather than a "traditional" Tablet computer. As has been previously mentioned above, Jobs has stated that Apple aren't gonna do a PDA, I concur as I can see that aspect of things being apart of the (rumoured) iPhone if it materialises.
I also don't think it would run on OSX as Tablet PCs run on XP, but more of a dedicated system, better suited to the Tablet interface rather than the standard OS + Handwriting recognition.
My 2p - phill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I would totally buy one. I've been wanting a Tablet Mac for a long time. If it's a full fledged PC just as powerful as the current Mac Book line, then it will be a great thing. 13" monitor would be the perfect size for it.
I could kick back in my lounge chair to read the news and Digg. I could get my email without having to be tied to my desk. The form factor is great for casual reading and surfing the web. On top of that, being able to control my TV and other devices from it would be a plus. Oh, and having the sound/music playing on my home stereo would be the bomb.
Then with the base station plugged into a 20" monitor with keyboard and mouse, I could do my coding with ease. - HDhandyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What ever happened to that multi-touch screen that Jeff Han was working on @ NYU--remember the video with the Matrix music (animated)? I could be mistaken, but some how I thought that Apple picked up a partial patent on that one, and this was when we all started talking about a touch interface from them? Any takers?
- TheMacThinker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Whether this is true or not, I know it is just a matter of time for the Apple tablet PC. And guess what, I can bet that it will be the best user experience out there for its kind.
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http://www.mostofmymac.com - Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Apple has consistently innovated and been ahead of the curve on most of it's product line. Apple's iMac singlehandedly launched the USB peripherals market; nothing was available in USB until the original iMac was released USB only. It sold very well, and all of a sudden, peripheral makers scrambled to make USB peripherals. The iMac was also the first to ditch the floppy drive. And the list of firsts with MacOS is quite extensive; I'll not list them here--I think you get my point. Stop being a hater.
If you want to talk about being more expensive and late, consider the MS Zune. (Late for sure when it comes to the digial music player business, and as for expense, well they matched the price, but hardly the feature set of the iPod, so for what you're getting, you're paying more. And even if you use the subscription service, you'll find that many of the best songs and best bands have songs that you STILL can't listen to under subscription because they are purchase-only.) - jav1231, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1TabletPC's are expensive and their functionality limited in the interface. I don't understand why Apple would want this market. OTOH, they may feel they can improve upon it which is entirely possible. Again, cost is one of the huge limiters of this form factor. Why buy a tablet when you can get a laptop for the same price or cheaper!?
- Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Admittedly, they're late with things such as the multi-button mouse, and the tablet PC, but in case you've missed the news, they are rather cost competitive when you compare the Mac Pros with Dells of equivalent configuration. If I remember correctly, the MacBooks and MacBook Pros are also quite competitive, pricewise. Claiming that Apples are more expensive doesn't quite fly anymore; that slur belongs in the mid-90's, but it isn't quite applicable anymore.
- vinko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Haven't you guys seen the following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAgbjBOK1bk
It is indeed possible to create a touch screen interface that is usable and a screen that ignores any finger smudges.
Now if the interface shown can be transported to a tablet computer that will be great. But then again a tablet computer should be designed to be used with only one hand. - MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As much as people want to believe it, I doubt Apple will come out with such a device as envisioned by the author. SmartHome does a lot with wireless home automation controls and there are several inexpensive X10 related deives that suits the needs of that market just fine. Unless you have some uber-technical automation geek that just HAS to have the latest and greatest, where would be the mass market for something like this?
I also doubt that Apple is going to release something like this as a PDA. As the market for that type of device converges, there is less of a call for PDAs.
The rumors of an Apple phone (I really hate the term iPhone) with the functionality of a PDA and the iPod makes more sense. Give it a 4-inch screen (though that would be a bit big for a phone) and iPod capability and I would probably buy a gen 2 of it. - pinky24, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1where's the picture??
- Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Curiously, this rumor has come out in spite of this:
(Quoted from the article:)
"Quanta and Hon Hai Precision Industry are Taiwanese Companies that make notebooks and other devices for Apple. Both have signed confidentiality agreements with Apple for the Tablet Mac."
Signed confidentiality agreements. Riiight. - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2005/08/apple_hiring_ha.html
- SbooX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Show me"
-Potato Salad! - edo-01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Nobody has done a tablet worth mentioning. "
I've been waiting for an Apple tablet and will be getting one when they come out, I recently switched by getting a macbook pro and haven't looked back. I do however have an XP tablet I will rave over, the HP TC1100:
http://www.tabletpc2.com/Review-HPTC1100.htm
I've been traveling with it around the US and Australia and have to say I've been impressed. I got the ruggedized case for it and use it mainly on photo shoots:
http://www.alexscollay.com/photos/United%20States/large-86.html
also use it as a regular laptop, GPS and as a controller for my Nikon SLR (great for timelapse and long exposures), it also doubles as a dump for digital photos when I fill my CF cards up, and via a pcmcia video in card as a large viewfinder on my camcorder for tripod shooting. It's powerful enough to go through RAWs and do colour grading in the field in photoshop. We took it through death valley, kicked the ***** out of it and it stood up nicely. The GPS came in handy on the last day finding our way out in the dark too :-)
Ditch the detachable keyboard and it's a sexy little media player too. - miker71, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wish you could run OS X on a Panasonic Toughbook tablet
- leftspin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why buy a tablet when you can get a laptop for the same price or cheaper!?
You could use this argument for a Mac as well. It is tired. Stop using it. It devalues innovation. - SonyStyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0& what about name??
iTab? Mac Tab?? :D
mactab will be very funny for us in iran... cause it means "School" in our language! (farsi!) LoL - MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1As much as I hate agreeing with Flag about anything, in this case he's right. When Tablet PCs came out, most Mac users were slamming them...and rightfully so. For the most part, it's tech in search of a market. I see no need for Apple to jump into a market that historically hasn't done well, even with a better design.
- agiorlando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Although I don't like Mac (or Apple) very much, that's pretty cool.
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