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- christopherRB, on 10/11/2008, -6/+145Cheaper Alternative, no. More affordable than other products Apple Offers, yes.
- ileftfark, on 10/11/2008, -11/+70What exactly do you get? Every expert in the field is unsure, but CoreyTamas on Digg.com knows exactly what the $800 Mac will bring. Amazing!
- ileftfark, on 10/11/2008, -3/+49Not Apple hate, but you are actually right... looking at the Mac Mini MB13LL/A, this is what you get:
-Middle-of-the-road C2D processor, but limited by 667 MHz system bus
-1GB RAM (which is very low by today's standards, and can only be upgraded to 2GB total)
-80GB HDD spinning at a mediocre 5400rpm (what's that, like 12 blu-ray movies?)
-Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (that shares memory)
For $600? I guess for some it's worth it, but based solely on hardware, it makes it a tough sell. - jgoto, on 10/11/2008, -1/+32Speaking of the Mac Mini, if they reduce the price of Mac Books shouldn't they also bring down the price of a Mini. I mean, $500 - $600 for that tiny thing is a bit high.
- HaloZero, on 10/11/2008, -12/+41I piece of crap that is so underpowered and out of date that it's just a massive rip-off.
- Nin10dude, on 10/12/2008, -11/+38Unless they're lowering the price of current MacBooks to $800, which I can't imagine Apple doing, I'm going to assume it costs too much.
- Vst_kills, on 10/11/2008, -7/+32What does this guy think the Mac Mini is?
- seantubridy, on 10/12/2008, -5/+30That wouldn't work for them. Keeping the price high creates the illusion of a premium product. Once they start selling them at 5 to 600, they lose that. Most people would not find a Mercedes to be a premium automobile if it were sold at the same price as a Ford. It's basic marketing.
- wisedude, on 10/11/2008, -13/+36Answer: NO
problem solved - hsinray, on 10/11/2008, -54/+75A cheaper apple would be great! But macbooks are still too expensive at $800!
- Gee1004, on 10/11/2008, -2/+19Quality my ass. I am a Mac user. Apple orders parts. Parts fail. You are lucky, you Mac is fine, you're unlucky, it fails. Same like every other product in the world. What makes the Mac is the Operating System and Apple deciding what part to include, so you don't have hundreds of configurations and drivers.
- DyceFreak, on 10/12/2008, -16/+33WRONG wrong WRONG wrong.... wrong WRONG WRONG WRONG....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
as compared to:
http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MB402LL/A?mco= ...
do you know that a 4gB memory UPGRADE cost $300 (2gB $100), while its around $70 shipped regular price? 2gB UPGRADE is $100, where a 2gig stick is less than $30... - headband, on 10/12/2008, -5/+22an $800 apple will be a netbook
- brundlefly76, on 10/12/2008, -8/+24Yeah how the hell is $800 cheap when Dell and Asus are selling out of $400 netbooks?
But whats more insulting is that it will *stay* that price for 2 years with the same specs.
Apple's profits are largely a tax on people who do not understand the commodity economics of the personal computer market. - AkshayGenius, on 10/11/2008, -2/+16A netbook from Apple is near impossible, and no apple is never going to be a cheaper alternative. It was never supposed to be. It'll still be a couple of hundred dollars more than its competitors. The rumors are already changing to around a thousand dollars already.
Wait. And. Watch. - aleksandar, on 10/11/2008, -19/+32One mac per child?
- rdldr1, on 10/12/2008, -9/+22A Dell mini laptop starts at $350.
An Asus EEE PC starts around $400. - BlaenkDenum, on 10/12/2008, -9/+21Especially considering the fact that for the same price you could get a laptop with much better specs. I can understand though why someone would pay more for it to be Apple with OS X, I for one would love to try out OS X but I just can't afford paying for a new computer/laptop just to use it. I guess I'll have to try hackint0sh soon.
- CoreyTamas, on 10/11/2008, -38/+50For what you get? No way. That's a great price.
- ronmexico, on 10/12/2008, -3/+15The Mini hasn't been updated in 432 days. It was worth the money a year ago but now it's just kinda sad.
- TheLichKing, on 10/12/2008, -0/+11Maybe child from Beverly Hills. :)
- Urkel, on 10/12/2008, -6/+17What freaking year do people think this is? $800 is cheap?
$800 notebooks have been around since 05 and as much as people will claim "You pay for the quality", my 3yr old Compaq runs like a champ while my 07 Black Macbook has been serviced 3 times and is ready to be replaced already.
I'm buying a new Macbook but I'm not going to pretend I'm getting some kind of bargain. - christhechris, on 10/12/2008, -4/+15how can you say the same price can get much better specs...when you don't know the specs of a $800 Macbook...
- gradivus, on 10/12/2008, -5/+15Dycefreak, you are going to be dugg down to hell for pointing out facts from apples own website. They really are charging $300 for 4g of memory, they are off the shelf parts for 5X what they cost(retail) with fruit stickers on them.
- kefkaantakrist, on 10/12/2008, -3/+13Nin: I wouldn't be surprised if current models get slashed to $800 and a new model takes up the current price point. It has been 230 days since the current models were released, and it's "only" a 27% reduction.
This betrays a big flaw in Apple's pricing: because Apple's products take big technological steps all at once, and the prices aren't gradually reduced in the interval, if you buy a Mac shortly before the new one is released you just got screwed.
PS You can already get a *REFURBISHED* MacBook for $899. I think this is the really exciting aspect of all this... If a standard 15-20% discount is applied to an $800 Mac Laptop, you're looking at a $650-700 machine. - mcjaggernaut, on 10/12/2008, -2/+12@thcobbs: It must be nice to live in a fact-free world such as the one you apparently live in. You are absolutely making it up. You are just 100 percent wrong. There's no other way to say it.
- XxUNDEROATHxX, on 10/12/2008, -0/+9iBroke.
- najdorf, on 10/12/2008, -2/+11I'm not buying a macbook until it gets a decent graphics card.
- qpid, on 10/12/2008, -2/+10Cheaper laptops = less profit/margin
This is one of the reasons that Apple sells fewer units than Dell but makes more money. - thrikulam, on 10/12/2008, -9/+17....
ahahahahhhahahahahhhhh - GawtMilk, on 10/12/2008, -0/+8Parts come with warranties, you know that right? If you build your own computer you still get a warranty. It's just on a part-to-part basis.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2008, -0/+7You're thinking of George Lucas.
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2008, -1/+8A Macbook with better hardware (an actual graphics card instead of integrated graphics) for a cheaper price would certainly be a step forward. No, it won't be cheaper than some other PC laptops. But it would seem that Apple would be going for the best bang for the buck combination. A solid laptop with a Geforce 9400 and dual cores for $800 would be quite popular.
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2008, -1/+8I have upgraded 20-30 laptops this year. It's possible. The RAM and the HDD are usually the only parts you can upgrade. That being said, considering 4GB of RAM on www.newegg.com is $70, and 4GB of RAM on www.apple.com is $300, it's a good deal.
- tavisjohn, on 10/12/2008, -4/+11LOL an $800.00 apple is probably a $450 PC.
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2008, -1/+8By the way, guys. On the topic of Newegg: Samsung and Western Digital released their 500GB notebook drives. I upgraded my Dell yesterday with it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub ... - adriandb, on 10/12/2008, -2/+8Apple's prices are fine considering the product that they're selling. Products are worth what people are willing to pay for them and Apple's share of the laptop market has been on a steady rise.
- Spuy767, on 10/12/2008, -1/+7The chips alone from newegg would have cost nearly 2500$. Why waste time and money building your own, mediocre, machine when you can just buy a armed to the teeth machine with a warranty already assembled for nigh on when it would cost to build your own.
- Alegoo92, on 10/12/2008, -3/+9For what? The video games it can't play?
- PabloMac, on 10/12/2008, -4/+10"…you can't upgrade the notebook yourself…"
Maybe YOU can't upgrade a notebook yourself, but some of us actually can. - balthisar, on 10/12/2008, -3/+9One could argue that given the outfitting in a Mac versus the outfitting in a PC, the Mac is pretty much par, price-wise. On the other hand, I never use half the crap that comes with the Mac -- the iSight, the built-in Mic, the Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Remote, and I can go on. So really, if I were only shopping on price, then it would probably be smarter to buy a PC with only the stuff that I need. On the other hand, I want a Mac, and have been using Macs for 20 years, and Windows considerably less ("only" since its inception).
Plus, price isn't everything, because I'm not poor. Chances are, you aren't either. If we were all poor, then we'd all be driving used Hyundai's. - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2008, -5/+11I've noticed that too. I brought in my relatively new Macbook to be serviced twice the last 3 months for 4 issues but I barely use it. Dust has gotten under the display of my iPhone 3G, not a problem with the 2G. I really think Apple's quality is going down the tubes.
- macmichael01, on 10/12/2008, -2/+7Hmm, yah b/c $800 directly competes with the $500 computers that can be purchased in today's market. When will market perception wear off for these products?
- justdbc, on 10/12/2008, -2/+7Depending on what you want, Apples can be a very good value. Before you bash Apple as expensive, compare the hardware and the preloaded software that you actually use, plus the cost of additional software that you need and want. Apples are actually on par.
In this house, we have a mixture of Linux and Mac machines, with a couple of Windows machines still hanging on but of increasingly less utility. I wanted a Unix-based laptop that could sync to my PDA, with no admin hassles. Simple: Macbook. A linux laptop would have been a "project", not an appliance. What other laptop runs Unix? Something from Sun, maybe???? Riggggght...
I got tired of scraping malware off my wifes machine, even though the anti-virus stuff took so much of the machine's compute power it was barely useable. A Mac Mini solved that problem instantly, and for about the cost of any other decent computer. The machine is nearly effortless to administer.
The next machine in the house will be for a music workstation, driving a string of midi hardware, and running various music related software packages. It ain't going to be Windows, and Band-in-a-Box, Print Music, and SmartMusic aren't available on Linux. A Mac mini will do very nicely, at a nice price.
People that think Mac's are expensive: a) haven't checked lately, b) aren't comparing like-configured systems, and c) value their time spent administring the system at zero (or perhaps get their kicks from it). - inactive, on 10/12/2008, -2/+7An $800 mac laptop is going to suck. You're going to get an out of date processor, hardly any ram, hardly any storage space, and all your programs will run slow. Unless you just want something cool-looking to check your email and type papers in Starbucks...
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -1/+6An aluminum chassis would be nice, don't really care whether its windows or a mac OS though. But for the price tag, I'll stick with the Dell Mini. I'm not really willing to pay twice as much just for an aluminum chassis and a different OS.
Although apple customer service has always been beyond excellent for me, but meh. Still too rich for my blood these days. :( - jwdav, on 10/12/2008, -1/+6The Mac Pro is an amazingly good deal - the 2 quad core Xeons cost $1600 alone - add a motherboard at $400, RAM+HD+Case+1000W PSU and you're already above Apple's price. And, substantially below what Dell charges for the same components in a crap enclosure, minus FireWire, minus Airport, minus iLife etc.
- inactive, on 10/12/2008, -1/+6For Special people so they can feel special...
There is also the reserved parking spaces for special people. - crazlunatic, on 10/12/2008, -1/+5I don't think Apple will lower the price of their laptops to the mid-average level. The reason why their laptops are priced high aren't because they are actually worth that much, it's because they want their product to be recognized as something that is hard to get / special / high class.
- viksmaester, on 10/12/2008, -0/+4why don't you also use IE5, Eudora and Netscape on Win 98??
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