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- calgone, on 03/13/2008, -5/+54Seemless integration of user owned and live content? Recordable live TV with Apple's incredible UI skills? And that remote (which could be an iPhone/iTouch) which allows you to take the programming guide with you and schedule recordings on the go? Make sure it does HD recording and you've got 3 sold to me! Nothing new but Apple would rock it...hopefully it pans out.
- Emery, on 03/13/2008, -0/+28I love that apple manages to use reflections even in their patent filing line art.
- thinkart, on 03/13/2008, -4/+26if they bring tivo-like stuff to the product with on-the-go programming, i have no reason NOT to buy one. i was planning on it anyway, but now i must wait and see. damn you apple and your innovations.
- ckulprit, on 03/13/2008, -1/+16They will let you record for "Free" and then charge you $2 for the A-Team, Lost (from 3 weeks ago) or maybe a new show you heard so much about but never got around to seeing like Pushing Daisies. iTunes will become a TV/Movie Vault.
- emehrkay, on 03/13/2008, -0/+11Figuring out the tv shows that matched the drawings was the funniest part of the article
- n3il89, on 03/13/2008, -0/+8hopefully they won't but apple has always been a software-oriented company and i think the ability to use your iphone/ipod touch as a remote control could be a stepping stone for apple to introduce other areas of business such as ordering starbucks with your iphone...most likely though, this will be a completely new update to the apple tv and existing owners wouldn't get this functionality with their apple tv thus getting the new remote when they buy the new apple tv
- bigsteve, on 03/13/2008, -0/+7Wow maybe using Apple's implementation won't feel like dental surgery. That'd be cool.
- pauldy, on 03/13/2008, -3/+10If this is true my only requirement is no extra monthly fee, cable card, hd and I'm down for three. I'm so ready to give TiVo the finger ever since they gave it to me with my series 3 boxen.
- pauldy, on 03/13/2008, -1/+6Given this it isn't a slam dunk but it also doesn't exactly require a friendly relationship with comcast or any other single provider either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_card - sockpuppets, on 03/13/2008, -0/+5TiVoHD does stream movies from your computer, I do it all the time. It's called TiVo Desktop.
- timusca, on 03/13/2008, -1/+5I have a TiVo HD and an Apple TV... I must say, if it weren't for the fact that the Apple TV streams all my ripped movies, I'd get rid of it. The TiVo HD does everything the Apple TV does except stream movies from your computer. Heck, TiVo just announced YouTube on it too. Its a shame too, because the Apple TV interface is so much smoother and better looking.
However, if Apple were to make this right, they would effectively turn the tables and cause me to trash the TiVo. Really, I only got the TiVo HD for the HD DVR capabilities. - johnpaul191, on 03/13/2008, -0/+4It's all about UI. There are plenty of DVRs out there, but it seems like none compare to the usability of a TiVo. The Apple one also may have some sort of way to sync things with a laptop or iPod. I know it can technically be done, and has, but it would come down to licensing. Anything Apple does that may piss off a network/studio/label can come back to bite them in the ass when a contract is negotiated for iTMS.
This could also be a shot across the bow of the networks? Maybe a "Hey, if you don't want to let Apple users buy your shows, we'll help them DVR them for free". - ghunt, on 03/13/2008, -0/+4that's 3 requirements.
- nardville, on 03/13/2008, -0/+4What's with the King of Queens in most of the drawings?
- JuliusErving, on 03/13/2008, -2/+5If this comes out with no monthly fee, i'd easily buy one. That's the only thing that's kept me from buying TiVo all these years.
- chris9902, on 03/13/2008, -1/+4What part of this are Apple patenting? Nothing is new in any of these filings.
- nace33, on 03/13/2008, -0/+3If Apple wants my money they need a Tuner on the back of that little box.
- LanceUppercut, on 03/13/2008, -0/+3If it would stream video to the iphone that would be awesome. I would finally be able to get that 50" plasma out of my bathroom which I watch when I have to take a duece.
- mediaspree, on 03/13/2008, -1/+3Put a bluray player in it andyou have my money, Steve.
- mojojojo, on 03/13/2008, -0/+2There are a couple things fundamentally wrong with the apple tv.... input device is very high on the list. If this patent is an indication, we might see that deficiency being addressed. Overall, after reviewing the patent, this interface seems to be a little cumbersome. Not very impressed. Apple needs to lead the way in content discovery, not follow (but I understand the risks involved in being an innovator). Good luck :)
-current apple tv owner and fan - calgone, on 03/13/2008, -0/+2IPTV
- holyreality, on 03/13/2008, -0/+2cool, now I might actually have reason to pick up a dvr.
- MJ420, on 03/13/2008, -0/+2hmm...I find figure 23 disturbing
- flap, on 03/14/2008, -0/+2my dvr has the worst UI ever. I don't care who makes it better, just please do it quick.
- haqattaq, on 03/13/2008, -0/+2http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071129-pate ...
Apple could get licensing agreements with TIVO. That would be interesting.. - supermanred, on 03/13/2008, -0/+2If it's compatible with the Elgato EyeTV which I use on my Macbook, I would certainly buy one.
- jhuebel, on 03/13/2008, -0/+2That's all true, but Apple aesthetic to user interfaces makes a big difference. From what I see in the patent filing, the interface would be pretty sexy.
- johnpaul191, on 03/13/2008, -0/+2I would believe Apple doesn't care. They lose so much on bandwidth and paying the networks that they really don't make all that much money. People will also still buy shows because they don't have commercials, or if they don't get that channel well.
- subliminalurge, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1Rather than a tuner, I'd prefer to have it compatible with a device like the HDHomeRun. Would save me having to run an antenna cable to my entertainment center. Won't happen, though.
My biggest concern is that they'd make it a cable card tuner and leave out the ability to record OTA. - portos12, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Apple TV media device capable of browsing and recording live television programming
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http://www.e-uuu.com - bigsteve, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1Considering they don't make a single piece of hardware they design, they DO make all the software, and last year they dropped the word "computer" off of their name (Now it's just "Apple") I'd say you're wrong.
- timusca, on 03/13/2008, -1/+2Show me where you can do that with TiVo Desktop for OS X. TiVo's support for OS X is lame as hell.
- tracydanger, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1Sure, but gstep has a worthwhile point. Pretty UI is worth crap if it doesn't have the functionality I need.
- Dhalsim007, on 03/13/2008, -3/+4APPLE DVR!!! This is the reason I bought an Apple TV in the first place, to wait for this day where I can add Apple's USB TV Tuner and record my shows!!!
- haqattaq, on 03/13/2008, -1/+2Too bad TIVO already owns all the patents for 'time shifting'. I would guess Apple would charge a ***** load for this functionality..
- gstep, on 03/13/2008, -4/+5This isn't an innovation. I can't think of anything this can do that Media Center can't, including "on-the-go" programming.
- taxali, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1Dugg for reflections
- cgomez, on 03/13/2008, -1/+2"The O.C." (don't call it that).
- supermanred, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1Actually, it would encourage me to buy an Apple TV since I already have a touchscreen iPod and would love to use it as my TV remote... I always said this would be the ultimate TV remote if someone writes the app.
Can't wait for someone to develop a game that uses the iPhone as a controller...that would be neat - mrchin, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1Looks like Apple likes the Letterman Show. The video drawings about a third of the page down resemble a Dave looking character, pose, mic and all.
- sfrench, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1I kept wondering why all the drawings looked like the spanish textbooks I had in high school.
- timeshifter, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1It better have a HD tuner that can decode ESPN HD (and other encrypted HD channels) or it'll be useless to me. Guess that means it'll have to have a Cable Card slot.
- timusca, on 03/13/2008, -1/+2Who said it did?
- Warblade, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1I doubt Apple would get into this any time soon. If they were to to this right, they would need to have one or two cable card slots, and those aren't exactly easy to set up at this point. Also the whole cable security industry is in a state of flux. Cable companies don't like cable card and would rather have DCAS (downloadable security) since its cheaper. This would require OCAP or "Tru2Way" running on settops or TVs. Hardware manufacturers don't like OCAP since its processor and memory intensive. They would rather see a lite version of OCAP/Tru2Way running on Cable Cards. Obviously the cable companies don't want that since it'll cost too much to develop.
If Apple were to do some kind of DVR it would have to be simple enough that a user could plug the cable feed in and it would "just work". And then what about users that have sattelite instead of regular cable? No, something like this is probably 5-10 years away at this point if this mess ever resolves itself. By then who knows what the cable TV landscape will be.
It's sad... I'd really like to see something like this. - NeoNevermore, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1Well, it's a hell of a lot better than showing screens of Mac vs. PC or Macbook Air commercials.
- jhuebel, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1Well, you can watch TV shows and movies on television for free, but you rent them from Netflix or Blockbuster or whatever all the time. How would this be any different? You could get old episodes from iTunes and watch new episodes recorded from TV.
- ANorton, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1Good AD reference.
- MJ420, on 03/14/2008, -0/+1what about it???
- tim710, on 03/15/2008, -0/+1I would definitely buy this. I've been waiting for DVR in Apple TV ever since it came out.
- ANorton, on 03/13/2008, -0/+1What about Slingbox type capabilities in Apple TV to go along with the DVR ability. Say I have a Macbook Pro, Apple TV and Cable bam watch tv in every room of the house not just where the cable is hooked up.
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