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- joeym, on 10/30/2007, -29/+340I could be completely off base here... but I thought there was no circumstance that cash could be "denied", and that as "legal tender" it had to be accepted for payment?
First thing I thought in reading this was "they're trying to make the iPhone seem more popular than it actually is at this point. I can't imagine that they're having trouble meeting the demands of the consumers having made it through the launch with no shortages. Seems more like an attempt at regaining some of the hype from launch. Either that... or some convoluted request from ATT. - peestandingup, on 10/29/2007, -48/+303You know what? Im a long time Mac user, but ***** Apple. Im so disgusted on how they are handling the iPhone. Seems like its weekly they are doing something else to piss people off with this god damn thing.
I hope Steve Jobs chokes on that ***** phone of his. Maybe he'll remember that he once ran a computer company. - FURBjr, on 10/30/2007, -90/+200I won't be purchasing one of these phones.
- llsethj, on 10/29/2007, -19/+124I see a new business. Sitting in front of the Apple Store taking Cash and buying iPhones with my CC. Charge 10% fee and get insane miles.
bye! - windohs, on 10/28/2007, -6/+107Or.....you could just buy an apple gift card WITH CASH and then use that to buy iphone(s)?
- lead2thehead, on 10/28/2007, -15/+98Could we maybe have ONE day where we don't talk about the iPhone?
- zuggie, on 10/28/2007, -2/+61If you read a piece of money it says "This currency is legal tender for all debts, public and private". What that means is they can't refuse to accept cash for a *debt*. However, since you aren't in debt to apple, you just wish to purchase something they have, they can refuse to sell it to you.
- naonao, on 10/28/2007, -4/+59I didn't realize that it was against the law for people to resell their own items, oh wait a minute, its not. And some people don't have plastic, I think thats completely unfair.
- thurows, on 10/28/2007, -5/+57Go to an Apple store and tell them you want to buy a computer and when you get to the register tell them you'd also like an iPhone, when it comes time to pay tell them you'd like to pay in cash and when informed that they will not take cash as a payment type for the iPhone walk away. If they say OK run.
- jcook793, on 10/28/2007, -1/+52Fixing the link for you:
http://www.treas.gov/education/faq/currency/legal- ... - qsqueeq, on 10/30/2007, -6/+55A commenter on engadget posted this as the explanation: http://www.treas.gov/education/faq/currency/legal- ... Read the first FAQ. They can deny cash.
- footbag01, on 10/28/2007, -8/+56They don't accept cash? Now that sounds unamerican.
- mdsanta, on 10/29/2007, -3/+51only 2 per person though, how many credit cards you got?
- MacEnvy, on 10/29/2007, -0/+45@mikelieman
I'll remember that next time I'm carded in the checkout line buying beer. - inactive, on 10/30/2007, -6/+51That's an odd move.
- estvir, on 10/28/2007, -6/+51When there is something 'bad' and 'Apple' invovled it's either a) retardedly justified or b) the other guy's fault.
Or at least that's what the Apple apologists pull on Digg, they seem to think people won't notice. - DutchGuilder, on 10/28/2007, -6/+44> Why didn't Apple just sell the damn iPhone unlocked?
Because ATT pays Apple $19/month for every iPhone on the ATT network. - AndrewWiggin, on 10/29/2007, -1/+37I doubt it. I tried to buy an iPhone the other day and they don't take cash and they also ask for a driver's lisence.
- inactive, on 10/28/2007, -4/+39your pic is an ubuntu logo though..
did this honestly piss you off that much? - armour, on 10/28/2007, -12/+46When are the Apple fan boys going to wake up!! Apple has long passed as the quiet struggling innocent underdog of the computer world. They are like any other large Wall Street company making decisions that look good in their minds that will help their margins and beat the street and reward the share holders because that’s the people thay have to answer too.
What the customer wants is long since past it now what the consumer will tolerate and how much they can get people to buy buy buy . Release dates getting missed, certain features being dropped from releases, more and more restrictive warranty procedures, going after their fans for releasing information they don’t like. Sounds a lot like Microsoft clone in sheep’s clothing.
It’s ok I know this will problem get dug down pretty quick by the rabid Apple fans instead of people taking a close look at their beloved company and see what they have become. - dynacrylic, on 10/28/2007, -9/+42They don't have to worry about receiving any "cash" from me. Until they allow customers to legally unlock their iPhone and "allow" it on other carriers networks, I won't be wasting a penny on the iPhone.
But thank you to all those who are constantly trying to keep their iPhone one step ahead. - 3Den, on 10/29/2007, -0/+33That's a commonly accepted fallacy.
"Legal Tender" only applies to debts.... if you owe money to someone, they cannot refuse cash. You cannot take me to court and demand that I owe you a million dollars, but insist that I pay in gold. As a side note, you can however demand that I pay the exact amount, or rather you can refuse to make change (though I doubt a judge would appreciate anyone wasting the court's time over something so simple)
Private parties can do things however they please.
Another way to look at it (very valid) is that there is no debt involved... you either own your iPhone or you don't.. there is no credit involved.
Two common examples where cash cannot be refused would be:
Restaurants - you generally eat before paying. The restaurant cannot refuse a cash payment.
Gas Pump - where you pump before paying. Neither of these institutions could refuse cash... or at least, they would have very little success prosecuting you for "theft" if they did. - DirtySnachez, on 10/28/2007, -1/+33Getting a rectal-plundering from big two-faced corporations is about as American as you can get, I reckon
- fLUx1337, on 10/28/2007, -5/+36Pick an iPhone up, make sure they see you, then walk towards the door without paying, you will be stopped, and be in debt with Apple - hand over the money, and off you go... ;)
You may be banned from all Apple stores, but you got your iPhone goddammit!!
^^btw, I was joking, please, unless you've already left to try it, don't. - ebob9, on 10/28/2007, -3/+31Truthfully, this is a stupid move.
From what I can tell, the plan is to track debit/credit card numbers to prevent people from using the same card to buy multiple iPhones.
Well, you can easily buy a refillable debit card in the line at the supermarket, so that really makes this a non-issue. - cherish592, on 10/28/2007, -1/+28My thoughts exactly. And complete the whole transaction in the same store, just in spite of them. I do feel bad for the Apple employees, most of them are the nicest people I've ever met. Too bad they get the wrath from SJ.
- wilsgrant, on 10/28/2007, -0/+26Not how it works. If a debt is created, it can be paid back with cash. Before you buy a iPhone, there is no debt, so they are not obligated to sell it to you. Heck, they could demand purple monkies if they wanted.
- mfus15, on 10/28/2007, -9/+33I'm walking in with exactly enough cash for one all in one dollar bills and if they refuse I'm bitching...and it is a big deal for people who... dont have credit cards
- inactive, on 10/28/2007, -10/+33You're right! Apple can do no wrong! Nothing to see here folks, move along...
- sinesurfer, on 10/28/2007, -4/+27I read the U.S Department of the Treasury FAQ at http://www.treas.gov/education/faq/currency/legal- ... where it states that US Code 31, IV, 51(I) § 5103 means only U.S currency is acceptable however private companies can determine when and how much money to accept.
In New Zealand life is simple, our currency is legal tender and you have to accept NZ currency in NZ. The single (sensible) restriction is a $5 limitation on coins (to prevent paying for a car in 5 cent coins).
Apple don't have to accept U.S currency in America..... it's just sounds so very Unamerican. - qsqueeq, on 10/27/2007, -1/+24http://www.treas.gov/education/faq/currency/legal- ...
- DiscoLando, on 10/28/2007, -6/+27Likewise, I won't either. I only use cash for major purchases. Apple has the right to reject cash, but then I have the right to not buy one, so we're both happy. :)
I doubt I would have bought one anyway, but this seals the deal. - inactive, on 10/28/2007, -4/+24lol, that's right, blame everything on att
- mikelieman, on 10/29/2007, -1/+21That "Legal Tender for all debts, public and private" thing?
- blackeagle613, on 10/29/2007, -5/+24so basically apple has decided to increase iPhone sales by.... selling less iPhones? something doesn't seem to add up here
- rearden, on 10/28/2007, -2/+21How is this going to stop people from reselling? Just purchase some of those prepaid credit cards without names on them and you have your self some nearly untraceable "cash" on a card. Again, this is just another tactic by a company to make legal and reasonable purchases by their customers more difficult and it does nothing to stop the "thieves"... not that legally paying for a phone is stealing.
Next thing you know apple will require "activations" and all kinds of other fun things that again hurt paying good customers and do nothing to "stop" what ever activity Apple does not like.
Oh well, another company down the dark hole. - ZigVicious, on 10/29/2007, -11/+29probably 2 per person at one time. If you get back at the end of the line I'm sure you can buy 2 more.
- inactive, on 10/28/2007, -2/+20100% correct. A company can refuse any form of payment, just as they can refuse to serve people for reasons they see fit.
- kublerross, on 10/28/2007, -2/+20what if I'm a minority disabled person with only cash?
- StiGUP, on 10/28/2007, -2/+18you know a company has gotten too rich when cash is no longer good.....what is the world come to...
- djpants428, on 10/29/2007, -0/+16You're completely wrong mikelieman, it's perfectly legal to request to see your driver's license when making a credit card purchase. I don't sign my credit card, so I frequently get asked for my ID, but I prefer it that way, because they might just look at the picture to make sure I am the one using my card.
- stevealford, on 11/14/2007, -0/+15Because it's impossible to think that Apple would do anything the customer doesn't like, right?
- UglieJosh, on 10/28/2007, -3/+17I thought the USD was supposed to be non-negotiable. Maybe my understanding was wrong?
- chris9902, on 10/28/2007, -3/+17$19 a month?
ATT really need Apple don't they. - antitab, on 11/14/2007, -1/+15Don't you dare inject sense and sound reasoning into this thread.
- ArkAngel06, on 10/28/2007, -3/+17ahaha he switched to Linux after he read this....
- ArkAngel06, on 10/28/2007, -0/+14I was really hoping they would quit after it came out......Twas not the case.
- AndrewWiggin, on 10/28/2007, -6/+19It's because he isn't adding anything to the discussion.
- DutchGuilder, on 11/14/2007, -2/+15Since the iPhone ATT profits have surge 41%, so yeah ATT does really need Apple: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/24/business/24phone ...
- 89vision, on 11/14/2007, -1/+13They don't want people unlocking them and reselling them.
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