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- dorianh49, on 01/07/2009, -30/+315So I buy 1000 screws from a company for $1000. Turns out that the screwhead won't work with any other screwdriver out there except for the pricy, shiny one that the screw company makes, and the screw itself will only work with one type of really expensive wood. Then there's a recall where the screws are replaced with industry-standard screws, except I have to pay another $300 for this privilege. Moral of the story: buy your screws somewhere else where you won't get screwed!
- username7410, on 01/07/2009, -12/+158It's not the fee that bothers me, it's the all or nothing upgrade that's irritating. Let me pick what I want to upgrade. There's alot of music I've bought that I could care less about upgrading now. However, to upgrade the stuff I do want to upgrade I have to upgrade everything I've every bought from iTunes, EVERYTHING! I'm currently at $300 to upgrade my library, and there's still stuff being added to my offer. Half of it is crap I don't care to upgrade, and some is stuff I've even long deleted from my library.
Fee to upgrade is fair, being forced to upgrade everything or nothing is not. - doiveo, on 01/07/2009, -16/+162Apple is a gentleman thief.
- slightlyoffbeat, on 01/08/2009, -25/+161You paid for your music KNOWING that it had DRM. Now you have an OPTION to pay to remove the DRM. Why is there so much complaining? You didn't pay for your music assuming that one day you'd get a free option to remove DRM did you?
- nLoBushwack, on 01/07/2009, -8/+111$0.30 a song?!
- ThantiK, on 01/08/2009, -4/+68Isn't that the whole point of DRM in the first place? - To make you pay for the same thing multiple times for use on different devices?
There's a slashdot tag that goes very well with this..."defectivebydesign" - BCPneumatics, on 01/08/2009, -23/+74To me it seems more like you purchased 1000 flat head screws knowing full well that only one company makes flat head screwdrivers. Unfortunately you now want Phillips screws so that you can use them with that more common type of driver. (You can use a flat head as well.)
Now they sell Phillips screws, and for 30% you can convert your current screws. Better than buying them all again, wouldn't you say?
Moral of the story: Everyone that looks at the glass half full gets Dugg down. I am sure my comment will prove that. - drqshadow, on 01/08/2009, -13/+61Or you can just burn it to a CD and re-import it into iTunes. I've been doing that for years, using the same CD-RW.
- Balanced, on 01/08/2009, -8/+54Note that to correct your example, you never owned the screws in the first place and the new screw are a lot better. (Remember, the upgraded songs are at twice the bitrate.)
- sockpuppets, on 01/08/2009, -2/+40Now you'll never be able to buy your imaginary girlfriend that imaginary diamond she's been wanting.
- Me1000, on 01/08/2009, -9/+44Your 30 cents also gives you a higher bit rate version of the song, twice the original.
If it was simply a matter of removing the DRM it should (and probably would be) free, but since you're using bandwidth to download the higher bitrate song there isn't a lot there to complain about.
We are also assuming the labels aren't demanding for the charge.
They need to make the upgrade server a la carte though, forcing an all or nothing upgrade is just laziness on the part of Apple. - Doktag, on 01/08/2009, -2/+35Allow me to introduce to you... The Caring Continuum: http://incompetech.com/gallimaufry/care_less.html
- strangerzero, on 01/08/2009, -1/+33Nobody is holding a gun to your head to do it. If you paid $.99 a song with DRM you knew what you were getting into. I have 15,000 songs on my iTunes but only bought 21 items.
- slightlyoffbeat, on 01/08/2009, -7/+38but you KNOW that there was DRM when you bought it. It wasn't a secret.
- PillCosby, on 01/08/2009, -3/+34honestly the best way is not buying DRM loaded songs for 99 cents. just a thought.
- ShyGuy91284, on 01/08/2009, -6/+36It'd be nice if I could get my DVDs upgraded for 30% of the original cost instead of having to buy all new Blu-Ray discs....
- fluidfoundation, on 01/08/2009, -4/+30Billy Mayes should be shouting at us on TV to do this. Throw in some Oxyclean too.
- inactive, on 01/08/2009, -24/+50So you buy the music. It's yours to listen to, end of transaction.
Then one day the company you bought it from says,
You know that music that you already paid for? Well if you buy it again, this time it'll actually be yours.
***** you. - emt1451, on 01/08/2009, -6/+26Except you knew what you were buying, thus destroying your analogy.
- inactive, on 01/08/2009, -4/+23It's this sort of ***** that's destroying the music industry. I want to support the artists, not the scam artists.
- rotundo, on 01/08/2009, -4/+23Just more punishment for trying to be a good citizen and play by the DRM rules. What a complete ***** over that was. I stopped buying from iTunes a couple years back when I realized that I got a _better_quality_product_ from bittorrent. I'd have been happy to pay for the songs if they weren't saddled with DRM.
- fluidfoundation, on 01/08/2009, -3/+20I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
- EllimistX, on 01/08/2009, -2/+18It's the only place to play iTunes-bought DRM'd mp3s.
- luke255, on 01/08/2009, -8/+23128kbps --> 256kbps != $0
Think people. This is a reasonable cost, almost if not completely all of which will go to the record companies. It costs Apple money to re-encode and host files. I was smart, I never bought any DRMed songs because I didn't want to be locked in. I pirated using P2P and used iTunes Plus when I could. Now I will be getting most if not all my songs from iTunes. If you knowingly bought DRMed songs then bitched about it you are a moron. - InorganicMatter, on 01/08/2009, -9/+24You get to redownload at double the bitrate. Someone has to pay for the bandwidth it costs 10 million iTunes users to redownload their libraries.
- LeadHead, on 01/07/2009, -7/+21Yeaaah, or we could remove them ourselves for free with something apple has already given us?
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/12/11/remove-itunes-drm-e ...
There is something to be said for thinking things through, apple. - scruffles, on 01/08/2009, -0/+14I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who don't understand DRM, but none of them are posting to digg today.
- elfprince13, on 01/08/2009, -0/+14which aren't actually mp3s but m4as
- Exekutor, on 01/08/2009, -2/+16Or get a higher quality screws for free. And obviously support the original designer by buying other stuff from his online store and attending his concerts (yes, screwdriver designers usually make concerts). Bypassing then, the abusive screw market.
- Jeepinator, on 01/08/2009, -5/+18Except you don't have a choice as to which screws you need converted. You have to upgrade all or none.
- eqisow, on 01/08/2009, -2/+15Let me introduce you to a special friend:
http://thepiratebay.org - chickenloco, on 01/08/2009, -9/+22Apple does not decide the cost to remove the DRM.
It is up to the record labels.
Which is why some songs will be $1.29 now. - inactive, on 01/08/2009, -8/+21You made a deal to buy the product when you bought it. And you're still entitled to get as much use out of that product as you did the day you got it.
You can't expect an upgrade for free.
I bought Windows 95 about 14 years ago and it worked as well as I expected it to. Won't run DirectX 10 or Crysis, but do I bitch to M$ that it doesn't do something that I wasn't TOLD it would do when I bought it? No. Because that would be retarded.
Apple is offering a valuable service for a price, if you don't want it, don't buy it.
***** Consumerist. - smspence, on 01/08/2009, -2/+15username7410,
You have seriously purchased 1,000 DRMed songs from the iTunes store? At what point did that seem like a good idea? I'm sure you've accumulated that over a long period of time, but still.....
Why not buy physical CD's from the musicians you like? Or do you listen to the kind of bands that have only one or two decent songs per album?
If you are serious about supporting musicians, you need to pay for a ticket to one of their shows, go to the show and buy a T-shirt, send them a donation, something.... don't pay $0.99 for a DRMed track. Who does that help?? - yabos, on 01/08/2009, -1/+14Well if you didn't want DRM songs in the first place then why did you buy them? You were happy buying them before.
- Butters757, on 01/08/2009, -3/+16Why not the ShamWow guy?
- Redemption289, on 01/08/2009, -2/+14Those are some expensive screws.
- Jhiaxuz, on 01/08/2009, -0/+12You would think that in a world of sense, this would dismiss any future attempts of the RIAA to sue for thousands of dollars per song.
Too bad I'm wrong. - serif69, on 01/08/2009, -2/+13It isn't like they just started doing this. It's just because they're removing DRM from all of their offerings that anyone has noticed. You've had the option to pay Apple $0.30 per track to remove DRM since iTunes Plus was introduced. And the tiered pricing is nothing new either, barring the $0.69 level. Originally, all iTunes Plus tracks were $1.29.
- barc0001, on 01/08/2009, -1/+12Well I think the problem stems from the fact that if you bought a track last year for $0.99, and now I buy the same track for $0.99, I get it without DRM, and you don't, even if you re-download it. You have to pay extra to get the same functionality I have. This isn't a physical product, so it's not the same as me buying a car a year later than you and getting a free navigator, it's a scrap of data. It's just a crappy thing to do to your customers, that's all.
Also, I'm curious as to how much of that $0.30 goes to the artist. None at all probably... - PillCosby, on 01/08/2009, -4/+15I understand how you would want to support a band that makes music you like, but they see very very little of the 99 cents, most of the money going to the corrupt record industry that put the DRM on it. torrent music, if you like it, send the band a small donation, or buy their cd. dont support these rich fags trying to swindle art for profit.
- Ramenamen, on 01/08/2009, -1/+12It counts every song you've ever bought on iTunes. It was showing songs I had on my other computer that I don't have on my new laptop.
- alricsca, on 01/08/2009, -0/+11I want congress to address the fact that many DRM mechanisms as defined by the DMCA are no longer and possibly never have served their intended purpose as an effective copyright control measures, instead they being used to create tiered levels of personal usage rights for which they may charge you more for allowing you the same rights you used to get for free. How can they define their DRM as an effective copyright measures if they are selling the same materials without it? What DRM is really doing is fair use rights control. This is an important distinction as by the purchase of the music you are supposed to legally gain fair use rights but the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause makes effectively aborts this. DRM is now being used as a method of restricting and profiting from persons' desire for fair use. This is not a copyright restriction mechanism, it is fair usage rights restriction mechanism which should render the DMCA circumvention provision inapplicable.
- Sublimin4L, on 01/08/2009, -3/+14So imagining I purchased for all of my songs, it would cost me roughly $1700 for this service.
Of course, $.99/song = $5600 total for my entire library. - ElChapusero, on 01/08/2009, -0/+11Doesn't that method involve recompressing the audio? That's certainly not the same as getting tracks with better bitrate
- infinityredux, on 01/08/2009, -6/+17I get all my screw from utorrent
...wait that's not how analogies work - inactive, on 01/08/2009, -1/+12maybe you last two forgot to read the part "THIS ISN'T A PHYSICAL PRODUCT..."
- inactive, on 01/08/2009, -4/+14Consumerist is going on like they were forced at gunpoint to buy their music from iTunes or get a dildo shoved up their ass.
And yet the dildos AT consumerist have spent a lot of time up each other's asses. - EllimistX, on 01/08/2009, -0/+10Yup, you're correct, m4as. I was using mp3s as a catch-all.
- scruffles, on 01/08/2009, -3/+13Where you promised something else?
They are offering you an upgrade path, and you're complaining that it isn't cheap enough and isn't convenient enough? When you bought the music, you weren't told there would be an upgrade path at all. You have one more choice than you did yesterday. -
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