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- rynoon, on 10/12/2007, -38/+146Umm. No?
- JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -19/+108I can't decide if the submitter is joking or is simply blinded by a bad case of fanboyerism.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -27/+99Looks like Apple is now just another pc manufacturer now, actually ... and if you look at the actual page you link to you'll notice that in the last 12 months Apple's score DROPS 0.03%.
Marked as innaccurate. - tutivlahos, on 10/12/2007, -15/+75I agree, Apple lost market share in a year. Innacurate.
- smeager, on 10/12/2007, -7/+61Don't believe everything you read without checking out everything. If you actually check the Aug 2006 stats you will see that the Mac OS "OS X" share is really 4.33%. I'll even give you the link to make it easier for everybody. http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2&qptimeframe=M&qpsp=91 They have it split into two categories for OS X, one called Mac OS and another called MacIntel. Mac OS is 3.71% and MacIntel is 0.62%. So lets do the math.... 3.71%+0.62%=4.33% ... Now it looks like it is only 0.02% lower then its high in December 2005. So the OP'er is correct in his summary.
Oh and you can't really trust Marketshares numbers because it only takes into account sites that use its paid-for-web statistics service. - stmiller, on 10/12/2007, -6/+55Seems like the guy is a Windows fan, by past stories he has been into. I take it this whole thing is a sarcastic joke.
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http://www.digg.com/users/nwoolls/submitted - mke01, on 10/12/2007, -6/+46i think you're looking at the line for windows XP. or you're just a douche.
- allanpat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38what's more staggering than nwoolls not being able to read a chart, is that that 1.10% is still on Windows ME.
- finalmillenium, on 10/12/2007, -12/+36The statistic used to get that percentage has all ready been proven to be in-accurate.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -17/+37It's actually REDUCED in the past ~year or so ? Hahaha...
- Quix, on 10/12/2007, -7/+25This is obviously an anti-Apple troll piece.
Nonetheless, from my perspective these statistics aren't on the mark. Within the last year, I've had 3 friends/family members switch from Windows to Mac, with several others planning to do so in the near future. In the same timeframe, none of my Mac-using friends/family members have switched to Windows. Hence, within my circle of acquaintances, that's more than tripling the current Mac market share. Anecdotal? Sure. But unless I'm a complete exception to the rule, Mac marketshare IS growing, and at an accelerated rate. Half the Mac buyers at the Apple Stores are switching from Windows, and the Apple Stores do a lot of business (no, not just iPods). With a fairly recent story on CNET claiming PC users are just dumping their computers and buying new ones because of malware problems, if true, then a lot more PCs are being sold without really increasing the user base.
Will Macs ever reach a majority portion of the market? No, not even close. Which is fine with me - fewer viruses and malware to worry about. As long as Apple remains profitable and keeps pumping out great hardware and software, I'll be a happy customer. Give me 15-20%, that's all I ask. :)
Anyone who believes that Mac market share isn't in an upward swing is being naive. Spinning statistics to support that view is your right, I suppose.
I digg the story headline inaccurate, and the statistics they contain inaccurate as well. - Oktober, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20I think people are having trouble with their sarcasm detectors today.
- stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19Why in the world would they split out "MacIntel" as a separate OS? It's all Mac OS X. These stats are questionable.
- dawnview, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19as Disraeli put it, “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damnable lies, and statistics.”
- RajAtWork, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17dugg for deep sarcasm
- SPNKrPunk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Because we Mac users are a very vocal, fanatical, militant group.
- allanpat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17yeah, you're right. The first mac Intels were released around Jan/Feb '06 right? That's when you see the 'Mac OS' share start dropping, probably because they started a new category called 'Mac Intel' If you factor in Mac Intel, the market share probably didn't fluctuate significantly.
- Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"Vocal Minority"
- joebob2406, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13How is the title of this article derived? Mac OS X is not staggering. I'm a bit disappointed with the stats. I have a feeling the author of this must have been being sarcastic?
- CamoChris, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15Aren't all stats questionable?
- Player0ne, on 10/12/2007, -9/+18am i missing something there it rose to above 4 but then drooped below again.
- RegisPhilbin, on 10/12/2007, -17/+25Congratulations, Apple masturbators, you've managed to get a completely idiotic and just plain wrong story on the front page which states the opposite of what the digg post exclaims. DUH!
- eelozano, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The fact that this got dugg in the first place shows that people are digging news that the want to hear...
I bet >50% of the diggers actually thought the article supported the title. - Quix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11"The 3 people you know add up to 0.*****% of anyone's marketshare ... sorry."
Thanks for the highly intelligent (and mature!) comment, as always r2d7. You're an asset to the Digg community.
Let's see if I can break it down to a level you may understand.
I represent a portion of the Mac market. A miniscule portion of a small market, it's true. My "switcher" friends/relatives were miniscule portions of the Windows market.
After my friends/relatives switch from Windows to Mac, there are now 4 Mac users where before there was only 1. So the Mac's user base from my perspective has now quadrupled. I have to assume I'm not the only Mac user in the world who has seen this happen.
So why isn't this represented in the statistics? For a number of reasons I'd imagine. One of which could be the throwaway nature of PCs these days (like the malware example I gave) where Macs tend to be used longer (my experience). The same number of PC users are simply buying more PCs. Not that I'm saying the PC user base isn't increasing too, because of course it is.
Nonetheless, market share statistics aside, I now know more Mac users than I did a year ago, and those Mac users were previously Windows users. And none of the Mac users I knew a year ago became Windows users in the meantime. Is this not a growth trend?
Yes. Yes it is. And I believe the Intel transition is just now getting this ball rolling. - guoweiok, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Apple's growth into the PC OS market, especially since the transition to an Intel platform, is staggering, and keeps improving
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seriously, how do you get that from those data?
personally i am a Mac user, but that doesnt change the way i analyse data... - Snakedal337, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9"Massive market shares"
...4%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - inturnaround, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10The Mac tax era seems to be ending. Mac prices are more and more competitive and I can only assume they will be in the near future as Apple wants to gain market share.
- BlueLaser, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9But to call the growth "staggering"?! Even if you correct the values for the MacIntel split, these numbers are far from staggering. Especially if you consider the fact that WinXP's share seems to have increased 8% over the same time frame!
- flernk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Only 47% of stats are "questionable." 12% are "perfectly accuarate." 32% are "generally accuarate." The remaining 9% are "totally invented." Such as these stats, for instance.
- skaface69, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10marked as inaccurate
- Subcranium, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I wish I could put a little eye-rolling emoticon here.
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7No, it's not meant to be a stab at Apple. It's meant to be a stab at the Apple fanboys on Digg who will digg stories that paint a positive picture of Apple without even reading the article. I repeat, this is not a jab at Apple.
- slackerjack, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11same.
On a side note.. if Apple only has ~4% of the Market Share why are there so many damn stories about apple on the front page!? - Avalontor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7make up any number of scenarios you want, Mac is not about to catch up to Windows.
- fatnutz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11What's staggering is the lack of common sense among the digg crew, especially in the arena of Apple articles...The dumbest ***** gets dugg to the moon, because these people don't read anything, they just digg it if it says Apple. I use both Mac and Windows, (and a little bit of Linux).. but i'm not getting sucked into this stupid Mac is superior *****, when half the mac-0-philes on here are ***** morons.
The more of there comments I read, the more I realize they switched because they weren't bright enough to operate Windows or Linux. - gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10Wow, you people are thick. This is just a ploy to see how many Mac fanboys will Digg a pro-Mac article without reading it first.
...I'll digg it :) - TheTankengine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7But this website's statistics cannot be trusted. It doesn't measure actual number of users of X operating system divided by total people using computers. It measures the operating system of users logging into one of 40,000 websites in the "net-applications" network. This might seem like a big number, but there are millions of websites not measured by this company, and also a lot of computers not connected to the internet (perhaps only an intranet or none at all).
The numbers presented by this "story" are horribly faulty.
Also, there is no reason to separate Mac OS and Mac Intel. Mac Intel is not an operating system. They are both OS X, just running on different hardware. And what about OSx86 users running on AMDs? - nullvector, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Fatnutz: "The more of there comments I read, the more I realize they switched because they weren't bright enough to operate Windows or Linux."
How true. How true! - alobos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Actually you can install OS X 10.4 in PPC 603 and 604 with help from XPostFacto ( http://www.macsales.com/ ). I use it to run 10.4 on a 233MHz Power Macintosh G3 beige
- TheTankengine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Man, I've seen some off-topic comments before, but this one takes it to another level.
- trollick, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10HA-HA-HA. XP's market share GAIN alone is larger that Apple's whole share.
- pgiessel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Framework.cfm?page=Compatibility.html
You need at least a 603 or 604 processor. (essentially a G2 processor)
@heyy - please post a txt document on how to run Vista on an 8088. - Aninhumer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Wrong article?
- nightowl313, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Even a mac fanboy (ouch) like myself must admit this digg is innacurate and lame. (And kinda sad too).
- Subcranium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm betting sarcastic.
- uownedge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@Quix: I agree 100%
Even though the stats might not be quite right, it's indeed true that lots of people are switching. I always have to chuckle to myself when people like to throw around the market share argument in terms of "the better OS", "security", etc. There are tons of Mac users out there, and Apple is making a lot of money (and don't even try to throw "Because their prices are so high! LOL" out there, because that's just not the case), and they have a lot of loyal users (as does Microsoft).
Not only is it good because I'd like to see Apple stick around, but it's good because Microsoft needs the competition, as does the Linux community. Competition is always good. :) - B111, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Easy, because they market their products as "simple to use" and tout the fact that they "just work" (as opposed to windows). Of course this is easier to do when you design the OS around a discrete set of hardware, unlike MS that has to design for a staggering number of possible hardware configurations.
Not a knock necessarily, I mean NOBODY'S marketing tells the whole story, but it is simply a different business model. - BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I think you are going to see your more average computer users useing Mac and the more advanced ones still building there own PC and running windows and possibly linux if they have a use for it. What apple needs to do if they want to become more popular is to stop tieing there OS to there hardware. Let me build my own computer then install whatever OS I want, dont force me to buy an apple computer just to run an apple OS.
- alobos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I feel so much ENVY from prople writing lines like -"Shut up and ***** your damned macintosh" -"Shut up and listen to your iPods" etc... So much envy...
I felt it too.. Turst me.. Back in 2003 until I sold my darn beige box and bought a used G3 with Jaguar.. Happiest person in the world since... Now I own a MacBook Pro which I work to pay for and I'm happier than ever. - B111, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Excellent point. Especially wit respect to Linux. How many of us have had to pay the "windows tax" only to wipe clean and install our distro of choice?
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