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- ridd1e, on 11/29/2007, -17/+77Since when AT&T ceo is authorized to disclose info about Apple's (or in other words - Job's) device? I smell BS.
- vtron, on 11/29/2007, -52/+105Jobs is a lying tool. Batteries haven't changed in the past year. The top manufacturers are getting maybe 5 to 10% more capacity if they're lucky. Jobs didn't release a 3G iphone initially because he knew everyone would eat it up. Then a year later he releases a 3G iphone and everyone ditches they're old one and gets the new 3G.
It's amazing someone can be that much of a dick to his customers and they still treat him like a god. - noahhoward, on 11/29/2007, -9/+49You have lousy intuition.
- noahhoward, on 11/29/2007, -11/+47Batteries aren't the only contributor to battery life, thanks for playing, better luck next time.
- Flamekebab, on 11/29/2007, -11/+46I'm not overly interested in 3G. I've had a 3G phone for ages and found that compared to non-3G phones the battery life was laughable.
- uppedbyhiggins, on 11/29/2007, -8/+42Are you guys downloading god damn torrents with your iPhones?
I used an iPhone with EDGE the other day and it was alright...not amazing, but not worth kicking and screaming over. Whatever, they're neat. - Drizzit, on 11/29/2007, -1/+34It was pretty stupid of him either way. Jobs in the past has pulled deals with those who leak info about their devices. Apple is much a media machine as it is a computer maker.
- superkendall, on 11/29/2007, -5/+32Except Jobs didn't say batteries would improve - he said 3G chipsets would improve to consume less power, and at that point Apple would adopt a 3G chipset.
You Apple haters will lie about anything just to get a dig at Apple. - cgruber, on 11/29/2007, -2/+26So you have no Wifi spots but you do have 3G coverage? Last I checked 3G IS only in the major city areas.
- vtron, on 11/29/2007, -2/+24The reason iPods have longer battery life is because Apple has improved their power saving. They are using less current to power the device. Batteries haven't made any leap since Li-Ion and Li-Poly came out. I work with this all the time. If there were new super batteries, I'd know about it. The fact is, over the past two years THE top Li-Ion manufacturer was able to squeeze 400mAh out of the 4400mAh battery we use. I know, I had a meeting with them two weeks ago.
Batteries haven't changed drastically in a log time. YOU'RE cute. - TechCF, on 11/29/2007, -0/+18Often you can turn on and off 3G or HSPDA support on demand.
- blesbok, on 11/29/2007, -2/+20It is called consumerism, people. Why should he put all the good stuff in the first version? They have learned from the ipod that they can make a little upgrade here or upgrade there and people will drop another $300 on a new one when the old one works perfectly fine, so why not do it with the iphone? They can sell the first gen to a couple million idiots who have to have the trendiest thing in town, then they can add some 3g and sell another couple million to those same idiots. Then a year later they can add some gps or something else and sell a couple more million to those same people. Jobs feeds off of the mac sackriders like they are a cash waterfall
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -7/+20Low battery life might not be directly related to 3G, but rather a genuinely more demanding chipset on the whole. 3G kind of implies a web browser and kind of implies more multimedia rich applications, for which a meatier processor is needed.
- noahhoward, on 11/29/2007, -3/+14He's not really, but he would have the information. People aren't authorised to do a lot of things but they do.
- noahhoward, on 11/29/2007, -2/+12Where have you been? The iPhone isn't bombing.
- noahhoward, on 11/29/2007, -1/+10Everyone else has managed 3g phones with crap battery life. What's the point of doing it if drags your product down?
- imnojezus, on 11/29/2007, -5/+143G phones are notorious for bad battery life no matter who engineers them. When Apple markets a device that is intended to replace a phone and an iPod, they probably think their customers won't be happy if they have to charge the damn thing every three hours. So they stem the complaints by waiting for technology to catch up rather than putting out a half-assed jerry-rig in the hopes of making a buck.
- aliguana, on 11/29/2007, -14/+22Sorry, I'm not BUYING a "web phone" that hasn't got 3G on it. It's like getting a sports car and putting peddles on it. "But you can use WIFI"... yeah, if you're at home or in a cosmopolitan area that has open wifi. Around here, the only place I could use a WIFI phone is at home, which kind of defeats the object. 3G or forget it.
- noahhoward, on 11/29/2007, -0/+8What does the N95 have to do with the iPhone? The iPhone is selling very bloody well for Apple so it is not a flop. You also need to learn the impact of a world-wide launch, and a headstart.
- mrgreen4242, on 11/29/2007, -0/+8If the iPhone didn't have the features you wanted why did you buy it in the first place? You knew exactly what the iPhone did and didn't do when you bought it, and you should have known that at some point there would be an "iPhone 2" that would do more than the one you bought. Don't get angry at someone else because you bought a product that didn't meet your needs.
- waydee, on 11/29/2007, -3/+11Most of the UK has 3G coverage, apart from the truely middle of nowhere areas.
- aliguana, on 11/29/2007, -1/+93G may be outdated NEXT year, but edge was outdated two years ago.
- halik, on 11/29/2007, -2/+9I only have 13 gigs of music that I've collected after the past decade... stop torrenting discographies ;)
- Falldog, on 11/29/2007, -1/+8Is the Virtual iPhone supposed to not work?
- MikeCerm, on 11/29/2007, -0/+7I really doubt they'll raise the price. Technology is supposed to get cheaper over time, not more expensive. If anything, they'll add 3G and double the storage, and keep the price the same. Have you noticed that the MacBook Pro's price never changes? They increase the specs every year, but the price remains the same.
- mikhon, on 11/29/2007, -1/+7yea man, it's not the battery capacity problem, it's the power consumption problem
- skidooer, on 11/29/2007, -1/+7I personally don't see the need to load absolutely everything on my iPod. You're never going to listen to 20GB worth of music in any reasonable amount of time (i.e. you'll be back to your computer to sync in some fresh songs by then).
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -5/+11Sir this iphones name is Charlene Sir
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -2/+8You've just contradicted yourself...
- InnerBlueAbyss, on 11/29/2007, -1/+6Never trust a company founded by a fruit that marks its products as a fruit, which has a cult following of complete fruits.
- skidooer, on 11/29/2007, -0/+5It took me about 40 seconds to load cnn.com over WiFi. 3G isn't going to help you a whole lot with that site.
- bradspry, on 11/29/2007, -0/+5All battery life is laughable. Damn you Westinghouse for pulling Nikola Tesla's wireless power funding!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_energy_trans ... - superkendall, on 11/29/2007, -1/+6But then the reality is you almost never have it on, in order to conserve battery life... making the device that much more frustrating to use.
I don't turn off WiFi on the iPhone and battery life is still good. So without thinking I have the best network possible for the situation. - nytejade, on 11/29/2007, -0/+4Exactly, people say "All the iphone has is a cool interface." It's more than that, it has a perfect interface for a mobile device. I've used many high end mobile devices in the past, and I've always been annoyed by one major factor : interface. The iphone solves that problem.
Functionality is useless if it's hard to use. See: 3G phones with Internet Explorer on Windows Mobile. Probably the most ridiculous web surfing experience I've ever had. I'd much rather use a slower internet with iPhone's browser. I still get things done faster. - superal1394, on 11/29/2007, -0/+4I think pulling ZFS was a technical issue, not a business issue
- superkendall, on 11/29/2007, -0/+4But when it's to change the music you have on the device, the actual size is not so limiting - I have about 50GB of music, but I don't really find 8GB that limiting.
- pyrates, on 11/29/2007, -0/+4This coming from the same guy who wanted to end net neutrality so he can gouge websites hosting companies and allowed the nsa to put illegal wiretaps on Americans. ***** him. Bad enough the apple fan boys are excited about this because it's apple related. Anything you do to contribute to at&t's revenue is bad. If you can avoid it, do it. Don't be the sheep.
- Nossie, on 11/29/2007, -2/+6yeah look what happened to Sun and ZFS.... its coming, but after Suns CEO spouted about it they seem to have removed most support. Its happened 2 or 3 times before that too although I cant remember the specifics... maybe the asus rumour of a tablet has just shot them in the foot too?
Bottom line is, if you step in front of King Jobs, he will burn you to the ground no matter the cost.
all hail king jobs, all hail king jobs.. we are not worthy .. etc etc. - jer2eydevil88, on 11/29/2007, -0/+4The iPod showed that ease of use over features is the real reason people want these devices, they are cool because they work and people can use them. I have a Blackberry 8830 for work and an iPhone for my personal use. I find that while the Blackberry is much more functional overall than an non-jailbroken iPhone I also had a steep learning curve to figure out the software on it. A perfect example is Google maps on the iPhone versus the Blackberry 8830, on the blackberry there are 5 buttons placed across the entire keypad that operate the application. These buttons are not used to perform similar functions in any other program so I had to play with the software for 15 - 20 minutes before I could even navigate with it. On the iPhone a 5 year old can operate the device if you show them how to squeeze and release with the touch screen, its just so easy that it becomes fun.
- tc2004txst, on 11/29/2007, -0/+3I know what you mean. It seems like the only point of it is for the advertisement of other sites. Nice plug of a crappy site that serves no purpose. Complete waste of time. Now let me put my iMac in my pocket, and just leave the browser open to the "vPhone" and it will be just the same.
- GoatMonkey2112, on 11/29/2007, -12/+15I have a feeling that we're not going to see very many people lined up overnight to buy the next one on the first day.
- skidooer, on 11/29/2007, -0/+3It doesn't say "a year", it says "next year". As in it could be as soon as five weeks from now, although that's unlikely.
Just like in the PC market, it's OS X that makes the iPhone interesting, not the hardware. You can put all the fancy hardware you want into a $100-less package, but it doesn't mean much unless the software is up to par. - MiDri, on 11/29/2007, -1/+4iPhone has tv out, you just have to buy the damn cable from apple which is $49.95. Requires firmware 1.1.1 or greater.
[source]http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300 ... - waydee, on 11/29/2007, -0/+3I've seen the coverage maps, its not nearly widespread enough.
EDGE was clearly used because of its widespread availability in the states, 3G hasn't been rolled out on the same scale as it has elsewhere. - GoatMonkey2112, on 11/29/2007, -3/+6Oh, I'm sure there will be some. But the number of die hard Apple fans willing to spend extra money to be first will be much lower the second time around, especially considering the way price cuts went the first time. They're not doing that $100 store credit thing again. Not to mention that they will have to break their 2 year contracts to get it which will cost even more.
- inactive, on 11/29/2007, -0/+3Two things have happened since your experience; Broadcom has developed a new 3G chip that uses less energy and batteries have improved.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=htt ... - stripes, on 11/29/2007, -0/+3Normally if you are with cell company X with a in-contract phone you can buy a new phone and extend the length of the contract (or sometimes add the new contract length). I did it to get my iPhone in the first place, and I have done it with some prior phones. I don't know if there is a formal policy, but I have never run into problems doing it.
- waydee, on 11/29/2007, -1/+4Am I the only person with a somewhat modern 3G capable phone? mine is always in 3G mode and seems to get 2-3 days of battery life with normal use... i'm not sure battery life is an issue at all these days, every new phone released is 3G capable which leads me to think its not.
- Jomwilli, on 11/29/2007, -5/+8Where do you get this stuff from? I mean really, do you actually believe this?
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