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- dvsbastard, on 05/25/2009, -9/+91Unless you are on a Mac, iTunes is a pain in the ass - or not an option... so yes!
- lennyp75, on 05/25/2009, -20/+61is itunes really such a burden?
- NathanCH, on 05/25/2009, -4/+36Yeah, iTunes and Quicktime suck on Windows. But on OSX they're my favorite apps. Not really surprising though. It's just the opposite with Microsoft Office which is horribly slow and ugly on OSX but very good on Windows.
- rubixcubez, on 05/25/2009, -3/+27Glad to see that some people realise iTunes for windows is the biggest POS software since... ever. Oh, and while I'm here, adobe reader and IE suck too. </rant>
- skittlebomb101, on 05/25/2009, -9/+29Winamp FTW!
- nwoolls, on 05/25/2009, -1/+16I just wish Apple would do for iTunes for Windows what they did with Safari 4 for Windows - deliver a decent, native UI that integrates with the OS and doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.
- LazyBeachBum, on 05/25/2009, -3/+15Don't forget that an "update" to iTunes means downloading and installing the whole friggin thing again (along with quicktime). Can't we just download a patch of some sort?
- Turris, on 05/25/2009, -1/+10It really whips the llama's ass.
- klick37, on 05/25/2009, -1/+10Big ABBA fan?
- Chrus, on 05/25/2009, -4/+13Still waiting for Singbird to get iPhone support.
- inactive, on 05/25/2009, -0/+8Winamp really makes me feel like I listen to music, especially the old versions. I don't know what it is, the look of it maybe, and it reminds me of many things from the past.
- zbeast, on 05/25/2009, -4/+12Yes it's a ***** pain in the ass.. If I want to sync my iphone from different computers.. I can't. I tunes Idea of sync is to replace
all of the content on my iphone-ipod with the music library from
the new computer. ya sure, I could some how create a central place where all my music is stored but I should not have to.
I tunes behavior is broken. - sahaskatta, on 05/25/2009, -0/+7i don't think songbird does iPhone, only iPod.
(i could be wrong if they updated it recently)
edit:
here's the list of compatible iPod devices:
http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Docs/Device_Support/I ... - NeoTechni, on 05/25/2009, -0/+6you keep mentioning this hack you didnt post
- trogdoor, on 05/25/2009, -0/+6... and doesn't run on an iPhone.
- NeoTechni, on 05/25/2009, -0/+6it's itunes. Not I tunes, not i tunes. Just itunes
- inactive, on 05/25/2009, -0/+6Apple makes PC quicktime and itunes suck on purpose. they want you to buy a mac.
- inactive, on 05/25/2009, -2/+8Never heard of Singbird before. Must be a Songbird ripoff. ;)
- unabatedshagie, on 05/25/2009, -0/+5It's the only software I use that I have to click on once before it recognises additional mouse clicks.
For instance I'm listening to a podcast while surfing the net. I need to click on the iTunes window once before I can then click to pause the podcast.
It also takes 5+ seconds to startup (and this is me only using it to download and sync podcasts and apps to my iPhone.
I don't doubt on a mac it's ok but on ANY windows machine I have used it suck balls. - rockon4life45, on 05/25/2009, -3/+8it is, especially on windows, especially for just playing music. I only use it for syncing and use Foobar2000 for listening.
- mrpunman, on 05/25/2009, -1/+6Been using Winamp since day 1. FTW indeed!
- carlosos, on 05/25/2009, -1/+6My problem with iTunes is having duplicated songs and it often wanting to delete all songs to resync again. Also not having the software on the iPod means being limited to only the PC that have iTunes installed.
- DrKickflip13, on 05/25/2009, -1/+5Yes...even for computer savvy users the simplest ***** thing like removing duplicates in your library (in mass quantities) is such a huge pain in the ass and needs to be done by third party apps...
- DrKickflip13, on 05/25/2009, -0/+4Ok, well when iTunes inveitably duplicates your whole library have fun deleting thousands of songs one at a time.
- CardHockman, on 05/25/2009, -5/+9Just use iTunes. I have 100+ gigs of high quality rips which I tag very meticulously (you won't find a misplaced capital letter in my collection, seriously), and iTunes is simply the best tagging resource you can get - not to mention the navigation and sorting features are far superior. I've tried foobar and winamp, so this is not just a case of not having been exposed to anything better. And stop complaining about the memory usage. Unless you're running chisel and stone tablet 2.0, you can handle it.
- CardHockman, on 05/25/2009, -3/+7I'm running itunes on a PC with that same amount of RAM. I run it while I play Warcraft 3 along with my IM client (trillian), Skype, Soulseek, uTorrent, and the Last.FM app. Shut the ***** up.
- starscream45, on 05/25/2009, -1/+5iTunes finds duplicates. You don't need 3rd party apps. Just go to File>Show Duplicates
Then make sure the songs are in order by name so the dupes show up next to each other. Otherwise if songs are ordered by Bit Rate or Date Added or something like that, your songs may not show up next to each other.
This takes a long time if you have a large number of dupes BUT if you're like me, I want to make sure I am deleting the right ones. So it is worth it. - staticfire, on 05/25/2009, -1/+5That's because Apple is a bunch of whores.
I hate Quicktime with a passion, more than I hate Itunes, mostly because I'm forced to have it on my computer when I never use it.
Apple I have VLC Player, Windows Media Player and GOM Player already..
Why the ***** would I need another video player that sucks? And why is it necessary to install Quicktime just to use Itunes?
***** you Apple - MorpheousMarty, on 05/25/2009, -1/+5Just because I had to check myself to make sure, Safari 4 is still in beta. And yes, they really should do that with iTunes if it works well. Since most iPod/Phone users are using it with Windows (just a statistical thing, not fanboyism) they should take better care of the experience. I know that keeping the look reminds you that you are using an Apple product, but it really makes me associate macs with bloated, stubborn software, which it isn't on the native platform (at least not in the same ways).
- Majora26, on 05/25/2009, -3/+7Yea sorta. I tried gtkpod on my linux machine. First sync broke the ArtworkDB file, second sync broke iTunesDB file on my ipod. In order to remedy all this, i had to delete all the music/videos from my ipod, whcih i had to do wtih iTunes. So i needed to install winxp on a virtual machine in order to run iTunes. When trying to sync music back to my ipod iTunes kept refusing to sync more than 60 songs at a time.
Itunes is an annoying part of life - ldkronos, on 05/26/2009, -0/+4No, iTunes is just a pain in the ass. Period. I've experienced a wider variety of problems and annoyances in iTunes that any other software I can think of. Here are some of the issues I've experiences
1) on one computer, iTunes would continually disconnect my ipod about a minute after hooking it up. Made it a pain in the ass to add things to it
2) on another computer, it hosed the ipod touch trying to update firmware. It then hosed it up trying to recover the previous firmware. I had to hook it up to another computer to get the ipod touch working again
3) on yet another computer, iTunes worked perfectly. However, iTunes requires quicktime to be installed, and quicktime would repeatedly crash the print spooler. I could not print anything with quicktime installed. I'd literally have to uninstall quicktime and reboot. Then everything was fine until I reinstalled quicktime and rebooted, at which point the print spooler would once again crash
4) When I built my most recent computer, I transferred over my iTunes library, but forgot to authorize the new computer on my account. When I went to sync my ipod touch, itunes told me that an app was no longer registered and would be deleted if I synced it. It asked if I wanted to continue. I said yes, and it began deleting everything on my device. I quickly unplugged it and started over. This time I answered no to the question, and it went ahead and deleted everything anyway. unforunately, since it said it would delete if I answered yes, I stupidly assumed that meant it would NOT delete if I said no, so when I clicked no I didn't pay attention to the ipod touch and didn't notice right away that it was deleting everything anyway. Unfortunately, when some apps get deleted, you lose the data for that app. Why can't iTunes couldn't provide me with a clear and concise message? Like "This computer has not been authorized for the content on your device. Would you like to authorize this computer now? If you do not, then all unauthorized content will be deleted from this device when you synchronize it". And then have it give you a way to abort without actually deleting everything.
5) I manage my mp3 collection outside of itunes. I've got everything hosted on a central server, which serves as a central repository for itunes, mythtv, winamp, and a few other apps. Thus when I add music to the library, it happens outside of iTunes. Unfortunately, iTunes is one of the few applications that is too stupid to know how to monitor or rescan its library folders properly. The way around that is to readd the main folder to the library (I can't add individual files/folders because sometimes I don't know which ones have been added). Yet from time to time, iTunes decides to start readding exact duplicates of files that are already in the library, and before I know it, there are hundreds of songs that exist in the library twice, with the exact same file path and metadata (how could iTunes possibly not know that is the same file?). I then need to go through and have it show me the exact duplicates, then manually select one file from each pair and delete it. To make things more confusing, there is one CD that I have intentionally scanned in twice at very different bitrates (I need a low bitrate version for something). When I tell iTunes to show me the exact duplicates, it shows me the pairs of different bitrate files as being exact duplicates. That's a mighty generous definition of exact.
Thats just some of the problems and annoyances I've experiences with iTunes. - jordanmoore, on 05/25/2009, -1/+5Could you not have told me one good way and run with that? Do I really need to know 6 ways?
- eliburford, on 05/25/2009, -1/+5Yes, please and thank you. iTunes + Windows 7 is not working out for me so well. Although iTunes wasn't working exactly brilliantly with XP either.
- NeoTechni, on 05/25/2009, -3/+6"And stop complaining about the memory usage"
Then fix it for us.
"Unless you're running chisel and stone tablet 2.0, you can handle it."
My UMPCs only have 512 MB of RAM. They are not upgradeable. You dont get to tell people they arent allowed to complain about VALID flaws with the program. - davidlyness, on 05/25/2009, -0/+3Yes, but the point still stands - iTunes runs well on Windows 7.
- ironhide, on 05/25/2009, -4/+7Here's a hack. Read the directions carefully and you'll be good in about 10 mins.
- eatasandwich, on 05/25/2009, -7/+10Lots of stuff. I have no experience of using it on a mac, but on a PC it's a massive lump of junk.
It could be said that I'm a moron, but of all the programs I own, iTunes has caused me the most frustration.
Every now and again I try to do something that should be simple, and find out I have to either hack the program or fool it it order to get what I want. I've lost music countless times. The latest frustration has been the backwards syncing of my contacts. The ones on my phone were deleted and replaced by the ones from my newly installed outlook (nothing).
Maybe I'm just not apple-software-savvy, but I'm not usually a useless gibbon when using other software. - mrBitch, on 05/25/2009, -0/+3@ ghawg, RE: "... On Vista, using the same hardware, iTunes sucked balls - lurch, wobble, gobble, lag lag lag g g g. On 7, I swear it runs as fast as iTunes on my Macbook Pro."
Doesn't that suggest to you that it's Vista (not iTunes) that's actually broken? - Meocross, on 05/25/2009, -0/+3Winamp looks smexy im tempted to convert
- inactive, on 05/25/2009, -0/+3Is the pope catholic?!
- ghawg, on 05/25/2009, -2/+5I'm running iTunes 8.1.1.10 on Windows 7 rc7100 and it runs like a dream. On Vista, using the same hardware, iTunes sucked balls - lurch, wobble, gobble, lag lag lag g g g. On 7, I swear it runs as fast as iTunes on my Macbook Pro.
- CardHockman, on 05/25/2009, -4/+7I swear, everyone who owns an iphone is retarded. You can choose to manually manage your files so itunes won't autosync your files anymore. It's been this way for a year and a half now - http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10115302-233. ...
Maybe you should have explored how itunes works before shouting about how much it sucks. - Qumahlin, on 05/25/2009, -0/+3"itunes destroyed my music library of 60000 mp3's, thanks to my dumb ass selecting itunes to keep my library organized, oh joy joy that was :'("
Not that i'm a fan of iTunes, but how would that "destroy" your library. All it does is put the music into the iTunes folder and rename the folders to fit the specified artist - title structure. It doesn't harm the ID3 tags, so any "damage" could have been easily undone by any number of programs that allow you to select a folder and manipulate the rest based on the ID3's - spielmitmir, on 05/25/2009, -2/+5Sometimes yes, at least for me. It will for no apparent reason change the order of tracks on my ipod and sometimes leave a song off of it entirely. Both are easily fixed but I don't listen to my ipod at home so if I want to listen to a certain song or play along with a song it's a pain in the ass when it leaves it off.
- aristotle0dude, on 05/25/2009, -0/+3The problem is with the model MSFT used for their 64bit versions. VS.NET 2008 crashes pretty quickly from memory corruption if you have resharper installed when running under Server 2k3 64bit.
- ironhide, on 05/25/2009, -1/+3Oy vey. I'm a ***** idiot.
http://lifehacker.com/5064933/sync-an-iphone-with- ...
Sorry all. - Arkanok, on 05/25/2009, -1/+3In all honesty, I've been using iTunes for about 6 years or so when I bought my first iPod, even when I was a Windows user (mac now) and I've never really had a problem with iTunes, ever.
Maybe some of you have specific needs or wants that iTunes doesn't offer, but for me it's perfect. - CardHockman, on 05/25/2009, -0/+2That's not true. I can drag music from my friend's computer, from his itunes, to my ipod and I have never experienced that problem.
- CardHockman, on 05/25/2009, -1/+3You can manually add music from a second PC to your ipod. I don't understand what you're bitching about.
- chickentonight, on 05/26/2009, -0/+2Ah thanks Ironhide! That's exactly what I was after.. and here I thought you were just being a jerk!
EDIT - and it works for anyone wondering. -
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