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- polymorphist, on 10/12/2007, -13/+234Is it just me or these ads are turning out to be about Vista more than Macs?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -30/+213"On a scale of 1 to 10, how much do I loathe Mac?"
"eleven"
"Oh, she's good, very good." - AxeMAYHEM, on 10/12/2007, -12/+133I don't think the idea is to sit down and watch them end to end like you were watching 24 or Lost.
- charliecharlos, on 10/12/2007, -17/+132...The ads are great and everything, but... anybody think the Genius was really cute? I think I'm heading over to my Apple store to see thes "Geniuses" they speak of.
- Satanael, on 10/12/2007, -8/+99Whoa whoa... this isn't a television series and don't give them any ideas to make it so.
- mustard, on 10/12/2007, -39/+130Because PC's don't have to attack Macs.
And saying "buy a PC, or be a trendwhore ponce" doesn't make for good copy. - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -28/+115If there really are too many versions, how is it a smear campain to say there are too many versions?
- markmorow, on 10/12/2007, -13/+97Yep, thats it. I've been waiting for months for some new ones to come out so I can watch them on the apple site. My day has finally arrived. Please don't ruin it.
- threepio, on 10/12/2007, -3/+79She read his MIND man. His MIND!
Also, apparently PC goes to eleven. That's fairly hardcore. - Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -3/+77"How come we never see PC ads attack the mac?"
Because Windows has something like 90% market share, and the Macs, around 5%. It's Marketing 101.
For Microsoft to run an ad attacking Macs, as much as I'm sure they would like to, it would probably have the opposite effect. Microsoft would be validating the Mac as a viable alternative to Windows to the consumer.
OTOH, Apple benefits by comparing itself to Microsoft, because it makes them seem more mainstream. - msprout, on 10/12/2007, -10/+76That's probably a side-effect of John Hodgeman being the funniest man on Earth.
- Amplix, on 10/12/2007, -22/+85I love _my_ mac but I'm going to have to agree with PC on that one. These commercials are and always have been annoying.
-Loyal Mac User
P.S. to Apple: I find myself liking PC more than Mac in the Get A Mac campaign - Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -12/+73Well. Apparently the qualifications to be considered a "genius" are somewhat less taxing than I would have suspected.
- formergthing, on 10/12/2007, -11/+61I don't watch TV, I'm far too busy making cool slideshows and photobooks. Hey, would you like the see my new photobook? Yea, I made it with iPhoto. It was really simple, just point, click, and print.
- AceTracer, on 10/12/2007, -33/+81@silverwolfe
What about them? They were the four sequential versions of OS X that have come out in the six years you were stuck with XP. - JerodSlay, on 10/12/2007, -3/+46Why do you need a mac genius to setup wireless? I thought it was all easy and *****.
- theprez, on 10/12/2007, -33/+74As a Mac user I think these Vista commercials are just a mere distraction meanwhile Leopard has been pushed back all the way to October. Anyone remember "Leopard = Vista 2.0"? At least Vista is out already. I liked iPod ads a lot more than these.
- loker269, on 10/12/2007, -4/+41I know they are trying to make him come off as dull and maybe a little stupid but he always seems to be the funnier of the two...the mac just seems nice in a condescending sort of way...
I guess it must just be John Hodgman's ability as an actor/comedian... - adinb, on 10/12/2007, -5/+40Captain Obvious Strikes Again!
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40I'm just glad the ads didn't go:
"Hi, I'm a Mac."
"And I'm a PC."
"And I'm Ron Paul." - choopie911, on 10/12/2007, -5/+37"Didn't you make this..."
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -9/+38Well by all means let us know when you do run out of steam, Mr "Too Good for Apple Ads"
- tagliare, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33"I'd rather have differant versions to choose from instead of being stuck with the most expensive no matter what you want."
Most expensive version of Windows: $399.00
Least expensive version of Windows: $199.00
Most expensive version of OSX: $129.00
Least expensive version of OSX: $129.00
Hm... - Charlotte_Web, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28"3. Having different versions suites different markets, whereas in mac you are forced to get one version"
I'm currently PC-only, but I've used Macs for two decades. Apple is definitely doing it right.
I'd rather pay one low price of Mac OS X ($129) and get the one version that has everything, than pay $189 for Vista Home, only to find out six months down the line that I need to spend several hundred dollars on an upgrade to the same OS because I need it to do more things now.
Oh, and guess what? OS X doesn't need to be serialized. Which means you don't have to call Apple for a new authorization code just because you upgraded some of the internals. Nor does OS X need to phone home on a regular basis to confirm that I'm not a thief. - mrspankeh, on 10/12/2007, -34/+58I think these ads have the oppisite effect on me. I feel the mac guy is a hipster loser, while the PC guy is cool and funny.
- firstpost, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28uuhm, they don't air all around the world, so for many people the apple site is the only place they can see the Mac Ads.
- strangewill, on 10/12/2007, -17/+39@chingy1788:
No, you break Apple's EULA if you don't stick OSX on an Apple built machine (think of how it would be like if you could only run Windows on a Dell...)
That is the main difference, and it pisses me off, I was so close to wanting to become an Apple developer (or at least a small time one, just to learn and tinker in another OS with different features), until I found out I'll have to buy myself $700+ worth of hardware straight from Apple, because they wont LET me do virtual machines on a PC (legally).
That is the #1 reason Apple has lost any support as a company I would give to them, thats pretty damn greedy of them.
Though, I still recommend OSX where it's needed, it's an OS, it's got it's good traits, even if it is a product of Apple. Same idea with Windows is okay for some things, even if it's a product of Microsoft...
Seeing parallels yet? - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -19/+41There's no getting round the fact that Vista has too many versions. If they are doing this comparison, maybe people will ask; "why are they doing all this comparing to Vista? Does the Mac OS have less versions or something?" To which someone may reply; "actually it only has one version" (server version aside). The one version thing is a good thing, and is clever, so shoot them for pointing that out. There's no getting over the fact that it's a better set up.
If you are a home user or a professional you still get all the goods, and not only that, the current version of the Mac OS is $129 in any store that sells it, that's an even bigger feature. So you are getting a version of an OS that IMO (and I have Vista installed, don't use it) is more full featured that Vista Ultimate, is easier to use than Home Basic, is safer, is more productive, and is better designed. Sure no OS is perfect, but as of right now the Mac OS is the better choice. And it's cheaper. - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27More like...
Windows: "Dude, Quicktime kinda sucks on my platform..."
Mac: "I'll give you that, but have you ever tried to use Windows Media Player for Mac? Don't bother, Microsoft discontinued it and contracted out the job to a third party."
Linux: "But what about—"
Mac: "Stop right there. You know that someone in that developer community you brag about has already made whatever you're about to ask me for."
EDIT: urusai, QuickTime on the Mac is awesome. It'll encode and decode anything, encapsulate it in a magical, customizable playback file, and look pretty doing it. - strangewill, on 10/12/2007, -21/+42@ladon:
Dude, seriously I've been building machines for years, dollar for dollar Macs cost more, to say anything else just makes the Mac community look like they're in denial. You're paying for the Apple look and feel, nothing more.
I have a Linux machine that overall is probably worth $400 that will beat any entry level OSX machine you can get. (which are $700 a piece, minus other hardware required/recommended for OSX recommendations). - maddla, on 10/12/2007, -12/+31I have to watch the Mac ads on the Apple website, see, i can't afford TV because I don't have any money after spending it all on my Mac.... oh. wait.
- theMurdocVolta, on 10/12/2007, -12/+31That Mac Genius can show me how to Dual boot on my Intel Mac anytime
- choopie911, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Anyone catch John Hodgmans thing in wired? He's a bright/ very, very funny guy.
- wssharp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19strangewill, that was the biggest bummer of a post i've ever read. everything about it
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -33/+49http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant
- qazyhoods, on 10/12/2007, -25/+40I wish PC companies would unite to create a series of Mac bashing ads.
- loggia, on 10/12/2007, -13/+27Wow. Some of the comments on here show what many of us already knew: PC users cannot take a joke!
Why so sensitive? - froinlaven, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17I love John Hodgman.
- Bamborzled, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Apple created QuickTime. They obviously would use their own product and not a competitor's.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21Come on, Mac users, be fair. Calling someone who's a glorified tech support person at a retail outlet a "genius" is at least a TAD disingenuous.
At least "Geek Squad" at Best Buy is more aptly named; one doesn't have to be bright to be a geek, and if you follow the term back to its source, you find it was applied to those who bit the heads off of chickens in freak shows. - BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20I got Vista and I didn't have to upgrade my graphics card and I didn't have to upgrade my RAM. I don't kno why they keep using that argument. Its better then tossing the entire ***** computer out and getting a new one.
- hassanchop13, on 10/12/2007, -18/+30i think most of the mac users take care of that.
- jamonterrell, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17@Ireland
We really need a "buried as Mac Fanatic" :-) - SaintStryfe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13If you haven't all ready, get his book, "Areas of my Expertise" - both the regular paper book and the Audio Book. Both have things individually that make them very funny. It's setup as a book of Fake Facts in areas John knows about - for example, Cryptozoology, the history of Hobos, and how to write a book. The Audio Book is especially funny, as he's joined by a singer, who is claimed to have been a feral man who John has tamed to sing as his troubadour on his Audio Book. His lists are often quite funny - For example, insisting there is a 51st state, Arr, which travels around North America and is home to Thunderbirds of Native American Myth, and a piece of Arr and a piece of Kansas was taken to make Arkansas. Just very funny stuff.
- psylence, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16emerge mplayerplug-in win32codecs
? - ggko, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Yes, please. Two months with my Vista machine already, someone's gonna have to show me when the "Wow" is going to start. 'Cause I don't see it.
- loggia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I don't know what that means, but it made me laugh.
- Kazbaeden, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14@Ireland
"There's no getting round the fact that Vista has too many versions."
Yeah there are man versions, but I think people make such a big deal of it when it's not. Starter (for developing countries) and Enterprise (for Enterprises) are not available for normal consumers, so that brings it down to 4. Business, by the name, it targeted toward small-largish business. So the consumer is left choosing between Home, Premium, and Ultimate.
Honestly, I think everyone who complains about too many versions of vista should focus their attention on linux, which is reall a mess:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Linuxdistrotimeline-7.2.png - Nahor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13"Why so sensitive?"
Because:
Microsoft stock: $30.00
Apple stock: $105.00 - Slovenian6474, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10...let me calculate how much time you've just wasted...
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