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- stalefries, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17I have a feeling that it is possible. This one company I heard of, I think they're called Apple, runs their business on Macs. Only hearsay, really. I'm not even sure of that.
- mexman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13I'm new to Macs and have seen very little in the way attention paid to business apps for OSX. I learned a lot from this post, thanks.
- 00kentt, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10lol i love how all the comments have negative diggs :)
- northernmunky, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Last company I worked for ran on several IMac and Powermac G5's. Not one PC in the building.. worked pretty well for them and now it does for me.
Nice having everything 'just work' and not having to pay for an IT department! - littleodie914, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6You can check out iProcrastinate too: http://www.craigotis.com
It's a free mac app I wrote, I noticed most of the apps in the article were neither free nor cheap, so I'm just tossing mine into the mix as well. :) - soapko, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8And if you were a skilled carpenter, you could save a lot of money by building your own furniture, too. Do you build your own furniture?
And hey, a chair is just a tool anyway. A tool for sitting. It doesn't matter what it looks like, right? Just so long as you have a place to sit. - grouchyman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7I'd argue but my hand is tired of typing.
- ExSlashdotter, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6If you're hand-building commodity desktop boxes, you're obviously not buying or using any volume. If every desktop is a one-off build, you're not even going to be able to keep a good working drive image, much less anything else. I'm not sure that you even have enough experience with enterprise-level IT affairs to be making comments here.
Good luck with your grab-bag, though. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9It's not the amount of digs, it's the amount of traffic dumb ass.
Mirror -> http://theappleblog.com.nyud.net:8080/2007/08/21/30-apps-to-run-your-business-by/ - MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6And you need all this for an office drone machine because...? Your list would have been more impressive if you had quoted costs for a barebones machine, integrated graphics, ect and compared it to the $599 Mac mini plus the cost of a 17-19-inch LCD display. It would still have been much cheaper naturally, but what you described wasn't what most office workers using office software tools would end up with on their desk.
- BossKey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I believe he is referring to the "Mac" computer that can be found in front of several NASA engineers who had just landed a spacecraft on Mars.
http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/people/20040103_Sp_EDL_01-br.html
"Home" users indeed... - Shpigford, on 09/02/2009, -5/+8And your ignorance shines.
I guess you forgot that the ENTIRE design industry standard are Macs not counting a huge number of film production studios. And those are just 2 examples.
Don't comment on topics you clearly don't know anything about. Seriously. - Rodzirra, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Same here. Great apps.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3TekServe does it too, its pricey though.
However as a generalization he's correct, as many Point of Sale systems are simply not available for the Mac (case in point, Apple themselves using WindowsCE for Point of Sale at their flagship Apple Store)....
.... as well as digital LED Sign management software, industrial or robot control systems. Too many industry specific applications are simply unavailable for the Mac because businesses tend to go for the cheap and what works, sometimes barely, rather than expensive but ultra reliable.
In the end you will never find a major company or even a blue chip other, even Apple themselves using exclusively Apple hardware for their infrastructure and business supply chain. Can't be done as of today.
A combination of Linux, BSD, and Windows simply rules that. - northernmunky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Total Macs gone 'boom' to date = 0
Apple Stores = all over the UK - not hard to find, not that we need them having a business protection plan in place, warranties (which mean free repairs for breakdowns), spares that can be moved if I need to, oh and something called a backup server. - peterinjapan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I run everything on my Macs, have for 12 years. It's fun not losing data to viruses, or even running my machines down with virus software. There is NOTHING but benefits for business owners, including the fact that your employees can't spend all day wasting time with Counter Strike.
- gamgee911, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4I run my business using a combination of iBiz and iBank. Works really well for me.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Correction: the industrial standard for Graphic Design is actually Adobe.
For 3D applications it would by a combination of Maya, etc etc.
Its no longer tied to the operating system. Even at NYU or the Art Center they use half PC's half Macs and for a long time have not been exclusively Macs. - jhuebel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Great list. I own my own company and have been using Quickbooks for WIndows in Parallels (already owned a copy). I may switch to one of the other finance apps for Mac OSX now. I really only use Quickbooks for invoicing, which some of the time management/invoicing tools may be better suited for.
- lithuin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Is that really true? People always say that, and it sounds nice, but I've never once looked at the submitter or previous diggers before deciding to digg/bury a story. No offense to you personally, but is what you just said something that bitter and jaded people say when they don't like that a particular story got front-paged? Just curious.
- ncaauwe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1My boss was asking me the same thing for months and I always came up dry. He's now utilizing JD Employee Punch Clock for the other employee here. I guess that's working out alright, but nothing beats On The Job on a Mac for simplicity and ease of use in my opinion =)
- northernmunky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1you're using child labour?? Shame on you!
- Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well, that's really the problem, isn't it?
Minis are not quite (but almost) powerful enough.
iMacs make no sense, fincancially, since you have to throw away a perfectly fine monitor at its end of life.
Pros are complete overkill for office use.
What Apple would need if they really wanted to make inroads in offices, is to step eitehr away from the very all-in-one philosophy that defines the company, or to create a far beefier version of the Mini, which in many ways would compete against the iMac. It's not very likely to happen...
iMac leasing deals might work, if you are so inclined, however. - BossKey, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Tell that to the tech startup company I was freelancing for. When they hired me, they were all IBM Thinkpads. By the time my contract was up, most of the office had very happily gone Mac and the last few were just waiting for their hardware to come in.
- aaronm67, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3http://www.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/hot_offers_dt?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&redirect=1
The two $450 ones are pretty damn good deals, and are much more powerful then a mac mini. - hadimirza, on 03/26/2008, -0/+1I recommend Checkout. The simplest program for starting your own store. well, depends what kind of work you're doing
- jhuebel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Just as a followup. I purchased Billings, which is working very well for me. http://www.billings2.com
- ncaauwe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2On The Job is awesome. I use it on my MacBook Pro while I'm at work. I just wish we could switch all our editing stations to Macs so everyone can use it, and so I don't have to haul my Mac in every day. Plus I find Final Cut Studio to be a much better all around solution than Adobe's suite, but that's a whole different story ;-)
- das7282, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Please!!! Your such a moron that you "assume" you know what kind of environment I work in. (1) I work in a small office with less than 15 users. Buying in volume is useless to use. Drive images of all our PC's is useless to us because the company was build slowly with a PC added here, and a PC added there, etc. None were ever bought in volume and the company is a long way away from needing to buy PC's in volume. (2) Every important file in the company is stored on the file server (Windows 2003) and that file server is backed up religiously, on site and off site (not to mention the fact that it's on a RAID5 array). If any of the PC's fail, I can have it repaired, Windows reinstalled and all the required apps reinstalled usually in less than 2 hours. (3) That PC and another were built for the boss (owner) and his right-hand man who wanted something better than your average run of the mill Dell. Other than those two (and my work PC), everyone else in the office is either on a Dell or HP. (4) The point I was originally trying to make was you can get ANY PC (name brand or not) cheaper than a Mac and that's why PC's dominate the office environment. (5) I hate people who "assume" they know about something just from reading a small post somewhere. Go take you attitude somewhere else.
- Tippis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"not counting a huge number of film production studios"
ORLY?
http://www.avid.com/
Not a lot of Macs there, let me tell you, only an odd HP workstation or two.
The Shrimp is correct. Mac is not the standard anywhere -- the standard lies in the *software*, which is either multi-platform or highly (non-Apple) proprietary. - das7282, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Cause it's for one of the Power user suites that always has ten apps open at a time. You know the type... has a cell phone glued to his ear 24/7. If it was for one of the receptionists, yes, I would have built it much cheaper. In fact, I've built Sempron systems as low as $380 including Windows XP (minus monitor)!
- scottjw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Try it with with.
- htdub, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Any apps, to help run a simple project budget? enter project bills, cash flow etc.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2OMG MYOB sucks. It is for the barest and smallest businesses only. Maybe a carpenter, or a tiny (no really TINY) retail store.
- euro22, on 12/17/2008, -0/+1Do you know of any (Windows) alternatives to 'On The Job'?
- smpdigital, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1http://www.filemaker.com/
- ShrimpCrackers, on 10/10/2007, -2/+228 diggs and on the front page because the word "Apple" garners incredible amount of traffic. Although if you look carefully at the actual content, more than half the entries are Web applications and not exclusive Macintosh apps. In fact stuff like Adium and Skype are mentioned and in real businesses, Skype wouldn't really cut it, especially with the recent outage. Quickbooks is basically the business standard for accounting but its available for Windows as well...
You would have a case if you complained about the article itself, but not the amount of traffic. - lolmax, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Is everyone here missing the double negative? He's clearly a witty mac fan.
- crh3f, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0still doesn't work (technically speaking, should be "with which to run your business"), but much better than before
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I didn't see any finance software there capable of running a business of more than a few hundred thousand dollars a year total volume. In fact, I cant find a single enterprise class erp crm package for the mac. Nodda.
- harmonix, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I'm a huge fan of SOHO Notes.
I live by this app. - das7282, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I can build my own PC... Why can't I build my own Mac? I rest my case.
- Weebs43, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Actually yes you can. You can either go with the not really building but configuring route of going with the Mac Pro, or you can install a hacked OS X onto your PC.
- skyshock1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Great for the smaller businesses indeed. Bigger businesses need something more robust. Especially in the finance dept's.
As for Documents creation, collaboration, and management, I'd also throw Google docs in there. - Brendan371, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0if you read correctly, i believe he said "simple". besides the obvious quicken, take a look at the newly released Numbers in iWork '08. It's everything Excel should be and can really save businesses a lot of time and energy.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1windows
- MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Probably not long after you quit being such a trolling tool? In other words, most likely never.
- sixlaneve, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0nice list, would be great if the author specified the license too
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1macs are a pain in a network... and those parental controls really look silly in a serious company
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1"Nice having everything 'just work' and not having to pay for an IT department!"
Until the day your precious Mac goes boom and you have to pay a fortune to have it repaired, and wait 3/4 weeks to have it back in your office... oh and did I mention you have to go find an apple store?
Nice business management you got there buddy, keep it up... -
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