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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34I have a 17" laptop running at 1920x1200, and it's definitely not the equivalent of a 23" studio display.
- ai42, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Wow that is quite impressive. I really like that guy's attitude.
"I got very sick and tired of waiting for Apple to release a Hi-Def PB. When I recieved a non working one as a gift I got to work trying to figure out if I could make one myself"
"I'm about to embark on my next project of a 12" PB based tablet (I've gotten sick of waiting for those too.)." - 5thfreedom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24I use a 15" Dell laptop w/ a 1920x1200 display on a daily basis. I don't have any trouble at all viewing the screen. You just have to get used to it, and it's totally worthwhile.
- theprez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22@appleosux
The only reason it taking longer for your comments to be dugg down to death is because a lot of us have blocked you and only see your completey useless and stupid hate comments when we're not logged in. - cmiller1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22AppleOSuX and the goatse guy, separated at birth or mysterious double life? Find out at 11!
- NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -5/+23Now, *that* is a cool hack. Gotta wonder what it does to the power draw, though.
-jcr - culbeda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I've used the Dell's with the 1920x1200 displays and I LOVE the screen. No problems viewing it at all. Of course, half of the clients I have using them probably shouldn't have exceeded WXGA because they're old and blind, but...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18The only thing that's the equivelent of a 23" screen is ... a 23" screen.
It can't be good for your eyes having to squint @ that thing for hours at a time. - thomashallock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Who ever said you need to see individual pixels? Higher DPI = better clarity and smoother edges without the need to antialias. In the perfect display, you don't want to be able to see individual pixels; you want the same resolution you get on a piece of paper. Increase your system's font sizes if you're on windows. Tiger's "Quartz Debug" tool alllows you to adjust your system DPI to make everything a bit bigger; Leopard's DPI setting will be better integrated into the system and I'm looking forward to it.
- shagybones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I have to agree, my laptop has 1920X1200 and using anything else just seems crude in comparison.
Yay Dell for having this option for over 3 years! - morcheeba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9My company makes a 1200x1200 lcd screen that is 0.75" diagonal. Even with a loupe, you can't see the pixels - it takes a 40x microscope.
- phraud, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Yeah, I have a Dell Inspiron 9400 (for work) that has a 17" screen with a 1920x1200 resolution.
These screens are great, lots of room to have many tasks open at one time. I have an average of 20 windows open throughout the day at any given time, so I value the extra space that this lappy gives me.
The Title of this article is misleading though. It should read "Guy hacks a Mac laptop, sticks in a bigger screen, with a higher resolution."
Yeah, so it has the same resolution as the native resolution of the 23" Cinema, it's still not the same. The resolution is the same, not the available space on the screen.
My old CRT monitor would go to 1600x1200, and be almost impossible to read, but I didn't go around saying I had the equiv. of a 22" CRT. - iamcanman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14I'm running 1920x1200 on a 15.4" Dell, let me tell you, I *really* wish I had opted for the 1680x1050. I have better than 20/20 vision, and still is painful to use for long periods of time.
Kudos to the guy for the hack though, it's awesome, and there _is_ a lot of utility to having a high-res easily portable display. I still feel bad for his eyes though :) - emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7increase your icon and font sizes
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I've often wondered why Apple never offered a higher res display like that for their Powerbook or Macbook Pro. Selling a supposed high end laptop (and supposedly media oriented too) with the lower resolution screen always seemed weird to me.
Cool mod and kudos to him for getting it done.
Now all we need is for WQXGA screens to come out. Then we can all go blind! - jleedev, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7How come no one seems to know how to change the font size? I have a 15.4" laptop at 1920x1200, and I find both programs and web pages easier to read than on a low-res CRT. Stop complaining and jack up the font size!
- generalleoff, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1015" is a tad small for such a high res but it is never the less a cool mod.
- zoom1928, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7emorphien, how does that help when too many idiot webmasters, like the one that does that horrible thing on this web site, use text sizes in pixels rather than em? The concept of relative sizing of text is just too complicated for a lot of people that do web pages. Also, how does it help the size of images?
- gklinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6According to the person that did the hack, the new LCD uses the same power inverter so power draw would be very similar to the original LCD (that information was buried in the comments.) I find this whole LCD swap business quite fascinating and the hardware hacker who did it is to be commended for his ingenuity and his nerve.
Although the hack was done to a 15" aluminum Powerbook (using a MacBook Pro's LCD casing), it's the possibility of doing the same hack to a 15" MacBook Pro that has me excited. The 15" MacBook Pro is the single most delicious piece of Apple hardware I've ever had the pleasure of lusting after with the relatively low resolution of the LCD as one of the few shortcomings. With a 1920x1200 display it is, in my opinion, the finest notebook of all time. Oh, how I wish I had such a beast. - kevinmotel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@theprez
i still read (and then proceed to bury) his comments because i get a kick out of his irrational hate. - LJWhorfin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5i have no problems reading on a 15" display at 1920 x 1200. please introduce a MacBook or MacBookPro with these specs. I prefer it over having a bigger laptop.
- Dorkbot101, on 07/15/2009, -0/+5Yeah, this is pretty neat in an apple notebook. As a poster above said, great for creative things, but not so great for browsing or text heavy things.
About the the power consumption of it, I'm fairly certain it would be pretty close to a 'normal' screen. Most of the power drain comes from the back lighting mechanism, which is just illuminated filaments running across the back of the screen. And despite the resolutions, the physical size is the same... so probably an equal number of filaments to illuminate the screen. - thomashallock, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Word of advice: if you do this, don't bother purchasing AppleCare
- fogster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@#elpayo: "MacBook Pro resolution options:"
I'm pretty sure he was referring to hardware options. With some laptops (such as Dell, as has been mentioned here), you can upgrade to higher-res displays. - elpayo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You can also use Quartz Debug to adjust your system DPI to make everything smaller - the range is .5 to 3. At .5 you get 36 dpi. I find .75 is a nice setting, which is 54dpi.
- elpayo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4RTFA.
- acemilo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I've had a 15.4" hp widescreen 1900 x 1200 or whatever the equivalant is in widescreen (1920 x 1200 I think), and its gorgeous. After using it for a few hours its actually harder to go back and use my desktop at 1280 x 1024.
- paulius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh man.
I would really like if Apple would produce a MBP with such a high resolution. I would buy it this same instant. It would be amazing. - emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's good for working on images. My 15" thinkpad is UXGA (not wide but similar pixel density). I've increased icon and font sizes but when working in Photoshop, doing scientific image analysis or doing design work the higher density screen is great IMO.
- KyleMistry, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Post a step-by-step on how you did it, if possible. I'd love to see that.
Apple's taking a bit too long with the whole Tablet Computer thing. :[ - Trevahaha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not saying it's not cool to mod your laptop, but hasn't this been a stock feature on most notebooks if you're willing to up the extra $$ for the display? I had a Dell notebook a few years ago with this resolution on a 15" screen.
- swissdietcoke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3HUGE apple fan, but I've got an Inspiron 6000 with a 1920x1200 display. I paid for it, and I love it. I've seen other Inspiron 6000's with just a WXGA display, and it feels like I'm playing NES on a big screen...
- xxdesmus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I love my WUXGA laptop with the same resolution...
Dugg for the excellent hack job, it's just too bad he wasted so much time on such a useless computer =P - chrissilvernail, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Too bad this isn't an option on the retail macbook. I have always purchased Dell laptops because of the high resolution display options. They seem to have this market. I struggled to find ANY other laptop manufacturer that sold a retail WUXGA laptop.
If this was a retail option, there is no doubt what my next laptop would be. Bootcamp solved my problem with needing windows for work applications, but I still can't get over the resolution issue. When working in visual studio, photoshop, etc, it is so nice to have that extra screen space. Even though it is only 15.4", you are sitting much closer with a laptop than with a desktop, so it really is like having a bigger display. - TomorrowPlusX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe when Leopard comes out, but the implementation in Tiger is buggy. It works, but it's buggy.
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2gmillerd, I think he's probably referring to how large text and other things would appear on a screen that small at a resolution that high. While you have the same number of pixels, those pixels are much, much smaller.
- schlurp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You guys have nothing else to whine about? Now we are whining about too high resolution? Wtf?
Ok, here is the secret to reading a 15" UXGA display: sit _in front_ of it.
I've had glasses for 15 years and I have used a 15" UXGA and a 12" 1450x1050 for several years without the slightest problem. - hexix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The guy had to use a display frame from a macbook pro because the high def screen he got was too large for the powerbook frame.
The real question is why didn't he just do this to a macbook pro? As it is right now, the screen frame is larger than the laptop base which would look ugly and probably get dust & crap from your laptop bag all over your screen. - tagliare, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@zoom1928:
Use Opera (Zoom changes images as well as text) - mmm_linux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Any one know how much that would cost to do. laptop screens are really expensive last time i checked.
- unicornofdoom, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Cool hack. That said, 15.4" HD laptops have been around for years, so I don't get the point except that it's an apple. I've got the Dell M60. Great for creative applications, terrible for browsing. Text is SO small.
- codemeister, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Yes i have a dell m70 with a 1920x1200 res, in a 15.4 in laptop.
- elpayo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Um. Why not install Developer Tools and use the resolution scaling in the Quartz Debug app? I know it's not True Hi-def, but it's a whole lot cheaper and won't break your warranty.
- Computer_Kid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2it's so purdy!
- emorphien, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@zoom1928
Increase your default font display size in your browser. Works for me with firefox when I need it.
As far as image display goes, that's a fact of life. I'm not going to go to lower resolution screens just to accomodate that minor issue. - NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, Tiger is already capable of using a different default device transform and mapping all drawing to whatever resolution you want. You can set the global scale factor if you want: just enter 'defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleDisplayScaleFactor' and then a number in the terminal.
The hold up is that images (including the resources in the system frameworks)look really bad if they're drawn larger than their intrinsic pixel dimensions; it's always easier to scale down than up. In Leopard, Apple's increasing the sizes of all the bitmaps they use.
-jcr - readerr0, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ thomashallock
no he didn't. The Inspiron 6000 actually came with a 3 15.4" screen options, the basic 1280*800, 1680*1050 and 1920*1200. I got the 1680*1050 which i think is the best res option at that size without your eyes going to hell, though many people with other laptops complain about that res too.
Interestingly enough, the successor to the Inspiron 6000, the 6400, doesn't have a 1920*1200 option. - thomashallock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@tch1337, did you mod your 6000 up to a higher native resolution, un-available in stock models?
- jimmay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I hope he didn't kill a real MacBook Pro to make that...
- keikun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it would do you some good to actually read through something before saying anything
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