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The Nation: MoveOn Endorses Obama

thenation.com — The Nation is reporting that MoveOn will endorse Barack Obama, who got 70% of the votes in their online balloting.

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  • rz8472, on 02/01/2008, -3/+41This is huge in California alone, where they have 500,000 voters, or 10% of the primary voters. And an additional 1.2 million in other primary states!
    • vertexoflife, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4Correction, 1.7 million MoveOn people in feb 5th states. 3 million total.
      • refrus, on 02/02/2008, -4/+3Barack Obama "USA is a Muslim Nation"
        Barack was born to a Muslim father and Christian mother..[1]
        Barack's family on his father's side is predominantly Muslim, father( Baracka Obama snr) , grandfather (Hussein Onyango Obama) were Muslims, brother Abongo (Roy) Obama is Muslim.[2][3]
        Barack Obama 's name is a shortening of Baracka which means the blessed one in Arabic.[4]
        Barack Obana's middle name is Hussein ,an Arabic Muslim name which means "beautiful" or "handsome". It is commonly given to Muslim males after the name of the grandson of the Islamic prophet Muhammad , Ali, the fouth Islamic Caliph in Islamic history.
        Father Baracka Obama died in 1982, Barack described his father Baracka as a non practicing Muslim [5] though he got a Muslim burial at Barack's family's request.[6]
        Stepfather Lolo Soetoro was a Muslim from Indonesia.[7]
        Barack enrolled in Catholic school in Indonesia as a Muslim student.[8]
        When Obama attended 4th grade in 1971 in a Muslim school [9], Muslim children spent two hours a week studying Islam and Christian children spent those two hours learning about the Christian religion. Barack studied Islam.[10]
        Barack attended at least some friday Mosque prayers with his step father Lolo Soetoro .[11]

        Notes
        ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama — whose father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims "My grandfather was a Muslim
        ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama — whose father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims "My grandfather was a Muslim
        ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama’s family connections to Islam would endure, however. For example, his brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as Obama recounted when describing his 1992 wedding.“The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.
        ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama — whose father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims — explained his own first name, Barack, in “Dreams”: “It means ‘Blessed.’ In Arabic. My grandfather was a Muslim.
        ^ http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/22/ ... My father was from Kenya,and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn’t practice Islam. Truth is he wasn’t very religious
        ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama?..the family wanted a Muslim burial,” Obama quoted his brother, Roy, as saying in “Dreams.
        ^ Baltimore Sun March 16, 2007 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.oba ... When he was 2, his father, Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan, and his Kansas-born mother, Ann Dunham, separated and later divorced. Dunham later married Lolo Soetoro, who was a Muslim. In 1967, the family moved to Jakarta, where Obama lived from ages 6 to 10.
        ^ Washington Post January 24 2007 At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering _ Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant
        ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school,” he wrote in his first memoir, “Dreams from my Father.” “The teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies.
        ^ Baltimore Sun March 16, 2007 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.oba ... In his autobiography, Dreams From My Father, Obama briefly mentions Koranic study and describes his public school, which accepted students of all religions, as "a Muslim school."In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies,
        ^ Baltimore Sun March 16 2007 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.oba ... The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. "We prayed but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque. But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played," said Zulfin Adi, who describes himself as among Obama's closest childhood friends...Neighborhood Muslims worshiped in a nearby house, which has since been replaced by a larger mosque. Sometimes, when the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Lolo and Barry would walk to the makeshift mosque together, Adi said...."His mother often went to the church, but Barry ( Barack ) was Muslim. He went to the mosque," Adi said. "I remember him wearing a sarong.
    • LeonThePro, on 02/01/2008, -0/+2Hmm....if they really wanted that to count, maybe they should have done this earlier since absentee ballots had to be mailed today. California had 40%+ absentee in some 2006 elections.
      • davidrools, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1not all of them are mailed. i'm just gonna drop mine off on tuesday (since they make you put two stamps on that big envelope!)
    • GeorgeClayton, on 02/02/2008, -3/+4Moveon.org won't help him, except with the extremist left. It is kind of a last blow to the Hillary camp though.
      • refrus, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Most of the Obama Zombiy trolls on Digg aren't even from the US but posting the Obamaspam from other countries
    • Mustard911, on 02/02/2008, -10/+2So the hippy gen are going to vote in a war monger as Obama? or has the Hippy gen finally been out numbered by illegal immigrants allowed to vote. Waht a crazy world we live in.
    • Mustard911, on 02/02/2008, -14/+4Obama is getting the teen vote from people that have little knowledge and research. The MTV crowd that likes Britney Spears. They are voting due to the belief they need to neutralise their White-Guilt mind set they were taught in schools. Other's are voting simply thinking that Obama is Black, and they have to give their vote to a colored. Crazy.

      Do some research, Obama is corrupt to the core.
    • Mustard911, on 02/02/2008, -9/+1BURIED DUE TO BRITNEY SPEARS TYPE VOTERS
      • zKman, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1Lol, don't you have 9/11 conspiracies to digg?
  • The_Wallbanger, on 02/01/2008, -8/+87The irony is that MoveOn was founded in 1998 to aid the Clintons during the Lewinsky scandal.
    • Troika37, on 02/01/2008, -5/+22Yes, but the media will never mention that. I love the irony!
    • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -7/+39To be fair, the intent in forming was more for the sake of the American people. Congress was bogged down for almost 2 sessions because dude got a hummer. It was no so much support of Clinton but condemnation of the political atmosphere at the time. The phrase "move on" comes from the desire of many on the left, both then and now, to "move on" from all the standard ***** in Washington D.C.
      • Troika37, on 02/01/2008, -14/+10When will you guys learn? Blowjobs had nothing to do with Clinton's impeachment. If getting head from some ugly intern made him a better President, I'm all for it. The 'perjury while under oath' thing is what got him in actual trouble.
        • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -9/+11This is a ***** argument, and you know it. There is a difference between lying about a blow-job and you know, any issue that might actually effect the way our government is run. If you think congress should be spending both time and money investigating and prosecuting adulterers instead of passing legislation, you've got a pretty warped view of how power should be wielded. Republicans would not have assertively drawn out the process of both the investigation and the prosecution if it wasn't so tantalizing for the public. The subject of the impeachment, if you ask any ordinary American, was Monica Lewinsky, not perjury. What actually appeared on paper is not what's important, especially in national politics. Perception lingers.
        • aliengoods, on 02/01/2008, -6/+8OK, Troika. If the blowjob didn't matter, then why haven't the Republicans impeached Bush for all the times he's lied to the American people? And don't give me that 'prove Bush committed perjury' *****. This administration and it's past and present leaders have lied to Congress so many times I've lost count.
          • Troika37, on 02/01/2008, -8/+9Why are you so willing to convict without proof? Isn't that sort of - you know - built in to our justice system? I will ask you to prove perjury. First of all, when has the current President ever been under oath? I realize that's semantics, but it is sort of crucial to the definition of perjury. Secondly, with you as eager and willing as you are to convict (and, I wager, condemn) Bush for policies with which you disagree, I would challenge you to also condemn Hillary, as she made the exact statements Bush has, especially regarding the war in Iraq.
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -4/+9@Troika- Bush has been asked to go under oath numerous times, including by the 9/11 commission, he refused. Must be for a reason.
        • spacecoyote1966, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2Clinton would have never had to have been under oath if the republicans hadn't been so obsessed with the blow job in the first place. It was nobody else's business.
        • davidrools, on 02/02/2008, -3/+2seriously, a BJ doesn't count as a "sexual relation"
          • sanman, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1which means you haven't had any non-sexual relations either, then
      • InRussetShadows, on 02/01/2008, -10/+10No, it's not a bogus argument, because it's THE TRUTH. Perjury and obstruction of justice were Clinton's crimes, and don't forget that morality was judged an impeachable offense in times past, so we could legitimately add adultery to the list. If you say that any of these things have no bearing on how a person leads, you are morally blinded. Yes, go on and ask any ordinary American what the problem with Clinton was and they'll tell you first that he was an immoral person, and if they know more, they'll go for the perjury, obstruction of justice, and maybe even throw in allowing hi-tech systems to be sold to the Chinese. Don't play games with "ordinary Americans", as "MoveOn" doesn't represent them, but rather people who wanted to see Clinton's reputation untarnished.
        • Lukesed, on 02/01/2008, -5/+3Yes, it's a ***** argument. Al Capone did not go to jail for tax evasion.
        • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -4/+3Well since you clearly aren't actually sure where to put your comments, I'll just follow you over here. You're completely uninformed, and you'll find no one at moveon.org who will say they formed the organization to help the Clintons save face. This is an absurd notion, anyone who remembers the 90s knows that Bill's favorable ratings went UP after he was prosecuted (persecuted, whichever), he did not need outside sources helping his cause, the majority of America already found it ridiculous. Do some research. This script is getting old.
          • Troika37, on 02/01/2008, -4/+5I know you diggerals love your wiki. Here you go - MoveOn created to help Clinton.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoveOn

            The real money shot is this. You're a liar. As MoveOn writes on its "about us" webpage, the organization was formed in 1998 in response to the effort to impeach then-president Clinton.
            http://www.moveon.org/about.html

            Also mentioned by USAToday
            http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/02/moveo ...
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -5/+4This is a completely semantic rebuttal. Moveon was formed to encourage "moving on". It's that simple. They were an advocacy group for the ending of the entire absurd Clinton situation. From the 2nd link you provided:
            "they (these who run moveon) shared deep frustration with the partisan warfare in Washington D.C. and the ridiculous waste of our nation's focus at the time of the impeachment mess. On September 18th 1998, they launched an online petition to "Censure President Clinton and Move On to Pressing Issues Facing the Nation." Within days they had hundreds of thousands of individuals signed up, and began looking for ways these voices could be heard.
            As I said previously. Moveon was a response to to defend Bill, but to represent the masses of people who thought the entire situation was absurd. This is irrefutable, and backed by the links you've so thankfully provided.
          • Troika37, on 02/01/2008, -4/+7Semantic? You said no one at moveon.org would EVER say they were founded to help the Clinton's. I directed you to moveon.org where they say they were founded to help the Clinton's.

            You're a liar.

            Also, can you go on record saying wiki is not a source now, please?
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -5/+3@Troika- Yeah, Semantic to the bone. You've yet to provide an actual quote, because in reality, you're paraphrasing to make it fit your point instead of mine. I provide proof, you provide opinion. Also, while we're at it, wikipedia is a reputable source, you sound like a high school teacher or someone from 2003: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061127-8296 ...
          • Troika37, on 02/01/2008, -2/+4I DID provide an actual quote. You chose to ignore it. Let's try again.
            http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/02/moveo ...
            "As MoveOn writes on its "about us" webpage, the organization was formed in 1998 in response to the effort to impeach then-president Clinton."

            As to your wiki argument, I defer to universities and college professors when it comes to what constitutes a valid source. They say - overwhelmingly - it does not. As a matter of fact, the University of California states that wiki “is not appropriate as the primary or sole reference for anything that is central to an argument, complex, or controversial.” I think that pretty much covers anything on digg.
            http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2007/01/26/wiki
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -3/+2@ Troika....So.. let me sum this up. You're citing a USA today (hah!) article, which wrongly reports (or at the very least, paraphrases, like you) what's on the moveon.org page. I provide a quote contradicting, and yet somhow USA Today must know better. As for wikipedia, I guess you should have let the rest of the community know you were only talking about "college"...or I guess just one college? I'm not writing an academic paper, I'm writing a paragraph on Digg. I'll cite what's widely available, trusted, and easily navigable to the audience here. That's wikipedia. Have fun with the USA today, which I guess you're saying is more substantive.
          • Troika37, on 02/01/2008, -2/+3The USAToday quoted MoveOn.org. So you say MoveOn.org's 'about' page - which states the organization was founded to help the Clintons - is biased?
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -2/+2@Troika...and for the sake of closing, Here's the FULL quote you keep cherry-picking:
            From your article:
            "As MoveOn writes on its "about us" webpage, the organization was formed in 1998 in response to the effort to impeach then-president Clinton. The group's message: it was time to "move on" and focus on other issues"
    • nicku, on 02/01/2008, -2/+4Oh but Bill O. says its all George Soros, so it must be true.
    • Moskie, on 02/01/2008, -2/+9Clinton '92 (or '98) != Clinton '08.
    • shagen454, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4Way to slant a biased statement. I wasn't a huge fan of Clinton (until we had the worst president in history) - but Moveon.org began due to right-wingers trying to condemn and impeaching a president over a blowjob. A blowjob? Now we can't even get a president impeached for lying the public into a disastrous war that has claimed many lives and unraveled and tattered the constitution all the while making unseen profits for the elite 1%. The irony...
      • jsebrech, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2He wasn't impeached for a blowjob, he was impeached for lying under oath about said blowjob. The irony is that bush (and his cabinet) have lied in official documents about iraq and many other things, but suddenly the rule that if the president lies on the record he has to be impeached became very flexible, just because this time it was a republican...
        • alittleroy101, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I think you're starting to catch on.
    • BillSamuel, on 02/02/2008, -1/+0Well actually the wealthy businessmen who started it expressed concern about the partisanship around the Clinton impeachment, not support for Clinton per se. They saw both right wing Republicans and progressive Democrats as a threat to the social order, and set up a PAC to oppose such incumbents and candidates, supporting conservative and "moderate" Democrats.
      MoveOn has never been anti-war (just last year they campaigned for Iraq War funding, angering many of their supporters) or progressive. Their real mission remains to support the establishment. Currently they do that be pretending to be anti-war and progressive, and then getting those people to support the social order. So their decision for Obama, the quintessential establishment candidate, is not surprising.
      Like establishment backers everywhere, they don't have qualms about methods. Lying and false polls are routine tactics. They knew they couldn't get a 2/3 vote for their candidate, so they didn't allow votes for many of the options many MoveOn supporters favor - and 91% didn't vote in their fake poll. See MoveOn's 6.2% Landslide at Actually Obama got 197,444 votes out of 32 million members. That's 6.2%. Members were not allowed to vote for anyone except Obama or Clinton, or for no endorsement, and 91% didn't vote for one of the two options allowed. They rigged the poll because there's no way Obama would have gotten the 2/3 required if they had allowed a free vote among all options. Like opponents of democracy all over the world, MoveOn decides on a result and then comes up with a phony poll to produce the result. See MoveOn's 6.2% Landslide at http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bill_sam_0 ...
  • ssn697, on 02/01/2008, -30/+18ugh. MoveOn.org. I guess you take whatever endorsements you get. Want to bet this get more negative publicity than positive?
    • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -6/+8Doesn't matter. MoveOn.org, save for maybe some transgressions seen with the "General Betrayus" situation, is viewed is a pretty positive light by most activist Democrats. This is a positive boost in the primaries for him, and only vaguely an issue if he secures the nomination.
      • Lukesed, on 02/01/2008, -7/+3I'm still really ***** that they printed that. I didn't have a problem with what the ad said but they really should ask some random people what they think of it, before they blow all of that money (and credibility) on something that will clearly just offend anyone who doesn't already agree.
        • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -3/+6Since when are we supposed to withhold political opinion because it might "offend someone"? I'm not telling anyone on the right to not talk about the "dangers" of gay marriage, even though I find it grossly offensive. It is not a stretch, given this administration's track record, to talk about the fact that maybe the military brass politicizes it's own work as well. This is not offensive, it's a mature conversation for once.
          • Lukesed, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Because it is an advertisement. I'm not going to keep donating money to a cause that is going to waste it. There is a way to criticize the man as a shill for Bush, but the ad sounds like something from a second grade schoolyard.
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1@Lukesed-Admittedly, and that's why the organization runs on donations, you're free to come and go as you wish. With the last 30 years of Republican dirty politics, I can't blame a chunk on the left for wanting to throw bombs as well.
      • dan222555, on 02/01/2008, -5/+3By "activist Democrats" I think you mean far-left loons. Anyone with a brain knows MoveOn.org is a hate-spewing propaganda outlet for the far-left.
        • OralCavity, on 02/01/2008, -3/+4Hi Mr. O'Reilly. How's that propaganda campaign coming along?
        • ssn697, on 02/01/2008, -3/+3Like or dislike moveon.org, can't you at least comment with originality? That is word for word from a Bill O "talking points memo".
          • dan222555, on 02/02/2008, -2/+3If it's word for word please supply the O'Reilly quote.
    • GeorgeClayton, on 02/02/2008, -4/+3I agree, moveon.org is hardly a positive endorsement.
  • Happy_Phantom, on 02/01/2008, -32/+13Good, that will finish Obama. No one has forgotten or forgiven the "General Betrayus" vomit of idiocy.
    • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -6/+12You're right, but only about the not forgetting part. A lot of democrats, the type that vote in primaries, thought the add was exactly what the situation called for. I think you'd find the number of activists, left or right in fact, who agree with the ad's sentiment. It's only the far-right and the MSM who really took issue with the thing. Honestly, his deliberate politicking while General is far more nasty and insidious than anything moveon.org has ever published.
      • dan222555, on 02/01/2008, -2/+5More than the far-right took issue with. Pretty much everyone in the mainstream took issue. The only people that didn't take issue were far-left loons and Democratic politicians who didn't want to offend far-left loons.
        • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/02/2008, -4/+2This is wrong. There have been plenty of polls showing people distrusted both the media and the government in reporting what exactly is happening to our troops and the Iraqis. To doubt that our general would tell the truth isn't treasonous, it's raising the maturity of the conversation past blind allegiance and into reason. The right pounced on how "outrageous" the ad was as a means to not actually discuss whether or not what Petraus was saying reflected the facts on the ground.
          • dan222555, on 02/02/2008, -1/+5"it's raising the maturity of the conversation past blind allegiance and into reason."
            Right...childish name-calling and calling a decorated general a traitor with absolutely no evidence to back it up is RAISING the maturity level. Forgive me for thinking anything but.
    • spacecoyote1966, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Actually I had forgotten that MoveOn ran the "Betrayus" ad until just now. Thanks for reminding me. I thought the ad was a very clever and apt pun. In which case an endorsement from MoveOn is actually a good thing.
    • davidrools, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2The whole issue of the ad's offensiveness was blown up to take attention away from the fact that Petraeus was leading us into continued war with Iraq based on skewed figures. It didn't accomplish what it wanted, but kind of backfired because people are generally too simple to think beyond first appearances. MoveOn, and I, still stand behind the ad. We were betrayed into more war, more US and Iraqi deaths, and billions more debt.
  • Gir9000, on 02/01/2008, -8/+31We need more Obama Supporters, Super Tuesday is almost here! Call your friends and family its time to show your support.
    • bingobongony, on 02/01/2008, -4/+2"You know, I was going to vote for Hillary...but my friend called me up and told me to vote for Obama. So that is good enough for me!"
    • Mustard911, on 02/02/2008, -6/+4have you researched Obama's background? He's corrupt and you're promoting him. Wake up young girl.
      • dmazzoni, on 02/02/2008, -3/+1I don't agree with everything Obama has done or all of his positions. Nobody's perfect. But the candidates who are the least corrupt, like Kucinich or Paul, have a different problem - their ideas are too radical for most people and they alienate people who don't agree with them. What I admire most about Obama is how he reaches across the aisle to find common ground with as many people as possible. That's something a good leader should do, and something we desperately need in the office of President.

        Is there something specific about Obama's background that makes you feel he's corrupt? For people who are voting in the Democratic primary in particular, is there someone else you would suggest voting for?
      • alittleroy101, on 02/02/2008, -0/+3Since you have researched Obama's background, how about you provide some good links and proof that he is corrupt. And then, show me why Hillary or McCain are less corrupt and more deserving of my vote.
    • rarson, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1He's a dude.
  • ivandir, on 02/01/2008, -11/+18Yeah but does Obama support MoveOn.org and their actions?
    • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -5/+15List the actions, this is just a lame straw-man argument otherwise. Besides raising the specter of our top military brass fudging the truth ( *gasp* ) on the Iraq war, just what exactly have moveon.org done that's so evil?
      • parithes, on 02/02/2008, -5/+4List the truth's that the military brass fudged. Show empirical evidence of these lies or you are a dirty hypocrite. You demand a list of actions then make some arbitrary statement that is laced with neo-stalinist propaganda. ***** moron.
        • alittleroy101, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Is it frustrating to have to wear a helmet and mittens all day?
    • Gemfinder, on 02/01/2008, -1/+7Yes he does. He participated in "get out the vote" conference calls in the last election and addressed the group on several occasions. They also helped elect him to the Senate.
    • withears, on 02/02/2008, -1/+5I sure hope so - most Americans do. MoveOn is a fine organization.
    • Mustard911, on 02/02/2008, -4/+2That's a point but Obama is a staged candidate so I'd expect all the corrupt groups to rear their heads regarding him.
    • rcook18, on 02/04/2008, -0/+1No, MoveOn members are clear on bringing our troops home now and Obama is not.
  • brnagi, on 02/01/2008, -3/+13Support someone that actually cares about the people, and not corporate interests.
    • Mustard911, on 02/02/2008, -7/+1hhhaha. Obama is a staged candidate. just research his past. He's also affiliated with the killers in Kenya at the moment. Islamic groups burning Christian in churches alive!
      • fuzzmeister, on 02/02/2008, -0/+4Please, back up such ridiculous and insulting claims with at least a shred of evidence.
        • alittleroy101, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2According to unlinked sources, he also ***** donkeys! Take my word for it.
  • zeiben, on 02/01/2008, -1/+25Well it is "MoveOn" and not "MoveBack", after all
    • virtualme7, on 02/02/2008, -6/+1yea and it's "MoveOn" not "DreamOn"
  • retr0grade, on 02/01/2008, -0/+27Too bad this didn't come with a link to the actual MoveOn.org press release.
    http://moveon.org/press/pr/obamaendorsementrelease ...
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 02/01/2008, -11/+4So does this mean MoveOn has moved more to the Left or has Hillary moved more towards the center?
    • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -0/+11Neither, and that's a ridiculously loaded and framed way to look at this. Moveon.org exists largely to get Democrats elected and effect national dialogue. They're long backed reform, and have always been against the war in Iraq. These two issues are where the Obama Camp and Moveon.org meet.
    • swrostmore, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4It would be pretty hard for someone who has based their entire political career on the concept of triangulation to "move more towards the center."
    • hamobu, on 02/01/2008, -1/+7Hilary is a neocon. She is way to the right!
    • bingobongony, on 02/01/2008, -4/+1Is it possible for moveon to move more toward the left?
    • GeorgeClayton, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2From a liberal perspective I'd say she's way right, from a conservative perspective I'd say she's far left. The truth? She's only in it for herself . . . a greedy backstabbing lying b**** who will say anything for a vote and sell the country for a dime.
  • wild, on 02/01/2008, -4/+11File this in the "Saw That One Coming" department...
    • Mustard911, on 02/02/2008, -6/+1BURIED DUE TO BRITNEY SPEARS TYPE VOTERS
  • thomoore, on 02/01/2008, -14/+3By winning lily-white Iowa, Mr. Obama has created an entirely new dynamic for our society at large. This article
    http://www.scragged.com/articles/king-obama.aspx
    explains how the backward-looking black leaders who want to keep people down support Hillary while the forward-looking leaders who want their people to grow and advance support Mr. Obama. However, it might be good if he were to say what he plans to do about Iraq. It's OK to say we shouldn't have gone into Iraq, but we did. We broke it, it's ours. Now what? Do we really want to bail out and let the Taliban take over the Iraqi oil money? This article
    http://www.scragged.com/articles/polygamy-terroris ...
    explains some of what we're up against. How would Mr. Obama or Hillary handle the situation as it now is?
    • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -1/+6You've been spamming almost every Obama thread with this. There's another, less irritating way to submit articles. It may be hard to find, I think it's through that "submit new" button.
  • mochaman, on 02/01/2008, -4/+16MoveOn is way too liberal for my taste, but I'll take Obama over Hillary any day. We need real change in this country but whether he is able to deliver it is another question, but for now I'm willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, besides the guy is inspirational.
    • Goodanswer, on 02/01/2008, -15/+5Hitler was inspirational also. Up until he decided that he wanted to have a Holocaust.
      Go read about the church he belongs to ..The Church of Trinity in Chicago...That is some scary reading.
      To support and defend Africa...
      • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -3/+14NO WAY! helping Africa! HORRIFYING! How could we elect this guy!??!
        • EditorResponse, on 02/01/2008, -8/+7What about Barak Obama's current antiAmerican African "Christian" church?

          Obama's Farrakhan Test
          Cut and paste becasue Digg truncates:
          www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article
          /2008/01/14/AR2008011402083.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

          Barack Obama is a member of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, and Obama's spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave ITS HIGHEST AWARD the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said "truly epitomized greatness." That man is Louis Farrakhan.

          But the rap on Obama is that he is a fog of a man. We know little about him, and, for all my admiration of him, I wonder about his mettle. The New York Times recently reported on Obama's penchant while serving in the Illinois legislature for merely voting "present" when faced with some tough issues. Farrakhan, in a strictly political sense, may be a tough issue for him. This time, though, "present" will not do.


          What do we know about Muslim Louis Farrakhan?
          Cut and paste becasue Digg truncates:
          www.adl.org/special_reports/farrakhan_own_words2
          /farrakhan_own_words.asp

          -------------------------------------------------
          Tell me more about Barack Obama's church. What is it like? What follows is documentation from Barack Hussein Obama's current African "Christian" church.

          Obama's activist church enters spotlight
          http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17701499/

          Wright also told The New York Times in an interview published March 6: "When his (Obama's) enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli" with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan to visit Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, "a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell."

          -------------------------------------------------
          What is Trinity United Church of Christ like?

          Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. (The church removed the information you are now reading soon after Obama began to run for office of the president of the United States of America!)

          1. Commitment to God
          2. Commitment to the Black Community
          3. Commitment to the Black Family
          4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
          5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
          6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
          7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
          8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
          9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
          10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
          11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
          12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.


          Now if the above was rewritten what would we see:

          1. Commitment to God
          2. Commitment to the White Community
          3. Commitment to the White Family
          4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
          5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
          6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
          7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
          8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
          9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
          10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
          11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
          12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -2/+2You can easily gauge this post by how long-winded it is. Also telling is that is punctuates Farakan's name with "muslim" as if that's how we should recognize people. White folks spend 200 years ingraining in blacks that they're somehow different, and then decry when they band together for causes under the "black" banner. This is demagoguery of the highest order. Have fun wallowing in xenophobia.
        • Goodanswer, on 02/01/2008, -0/+2It is not just to support Africa, it means that he will do it against what ever legislation or law says he can do. That is the point.
          Let me break it down further, His commitment to African and Black community "values" trumps your rights as an individual.
          If he follows through like he vowed to do when he joined that church, it is troubling, is all im saying.
          • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -1/+1Actually no, it's not troubling. My rights as an individual are just fine with the US being supportive of a long-exploited continent.
          • Rickler, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2You know how it's exploited? From "aid". Free food ***** up their economy's and makes them beggars. Food is the basis of all economies. If everyone gets free imported food, how are their farmers supposed to make a living?
    • rarson, on 02/02/2008, -3/+1i don't like Hilary at all, but they're the same ***** thing. I just don't see him saying much of anything that is different from Clinton, other than the word "change." He uses that a lot.
  • OBDriftwood, on 02/01/2008, -20/+13A socialist organization endorses the most socialist candidate. This is news?
    • onetimer, on 02/01/2008, -6/+23It's always funny when a Ron paul supporter accuses any of the democratic candidates of being "socialists"

      Ever been to Europe buddy? You realize that if you compared our political spectrums to theirs, the "socialists" would be considered far right? You don't know the first thing about socialism.

      If you're going to spew rhetoric, at least put it correctly into context.
      • ncairns, on 02/01/2008, -5/+8Exactly - I can just about guarantee you that any given Ron Paul supporter has lived in the States their entire life. Throw a few of them into Finland for a few years and one of two things would happen - either they would realize that all the propaganda they've been fed about how 'socialism' leads to the ruination of a country was complete *****, or their heads would just explode. Probably the latter.
      • card51short, on 02/01/2008, -8/+2Onetimer...no wonder you're so confused. We aren't in Europe, man...this is America.
        No wonder you know nothing about the Constitution!!!
        I found out your problem!!! Gimme a hug man!
        • onetimer, on 02/01/2008, -4/+8Do you enjoy looking foolish after making a non-witty reply that completely misses the point, or is just part of your condition?
        • card51short, on 02/01/2008, -5/+2no you're right...if we compared our politics to Europe...they'd be totally wacky and different!
          Great observation!
          • onetimer, on 02/01/2008, -3/+5Than it's a good thing that terms that describe "socialist" and "conservative" political philosophies are completely thrown out the window when looking at other countries, right?

            But, you're right. We shouldn't let those un-american bastards use ANY of our adjectives!
      • NonLeftistDiggr, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1What are you talking about, our democratic candidates would be considered far right in Europe? I live in CA, I guarantee you when democrats get their way unobstructed it leads to socialism and really unfair policy based on PC in general.
    • Hetman, on 02/01/2008, -7/+1Certain socialists policies we have enacted in America are leading us to a welfare state. Do I believe we should eliminate all our socialist programs no. But I do not think we should put into place policies that encourage the poor to have as many kids as possible, not to get married because that would cut down your welfare check. And really their is no benefit to get off of welfare. It is easier to get side jobs and stay on welfare than to get a real job and pay taxes that helps everyone.
  • light65733, on 02/01/2008, -8/+2This article is being buried. Currently is at just 99 Diggs but with 29 comments. Ditto for the article "Ann Coulter Endorses Hillary".
    • illegalcortex, on 02/01/2008, -0/+5And now its at 212 diggs with 46 comments and is the first story on the front page. Way to turn the tide, light65733!
    • dan222555, on 02/01/2008, -6/+1Why shouldn't it be buried? I don't want to read anything from far-left hate-spewing propaganda outlets like The Nation and MoveOn.org.
      • cecinestpasvrai, on 02/01/2008, -1/+3You dont get how digg works. A lot of people have to bury it, which saves the rest of us from being exposed to whatever close-minded literature you would advocate.
  • mbraynard, on 02/01/2008, -9/+5I voted for Obama. I saw that they needed a 2/3rds majority to endorse, and being a right wing Republican I wanted to make the choice that would cause the most possible division among their ranks after Hillary eventually wins the nomination.

    They did a good job running the election. I got a call on my cell phone immediately aftewards to verify I was the one who voted.
    • fluxion, on 02/02/2008, -2/+5when obama becomes president, i'll reflect back on all the people that helped make it happen, and i'll think of you, mbraynard. thank you. :beer:
      • virtualme7, on 02/02/2008, -3/+1Ha! it's MoveOn not DreamOn. I've said it all along that Republicans favor Obama being their opponent. When's the last time you saw a President from Hawaii, that was black, or born Muslim? Republicans are having some struggles on their side which is why all this Hillary hate is going around. Ever notice that the 2 states Obama won were Red States? You truly need to wake up.
    • ethornquist, on 02/02/2008, -1/+2Thanks Machiavelli. Moving on . . .
    • solesoul, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Wow mbraynard, you're so cool. Did you come up with that plan all by yourself?
  • frombeyond, on 02/01/2008, -8/+4Obama should tell these nuts to take their endorsement and shove it. He'd be guaranteed to win the primaries and the general election both.
  • RRJackson, on 02/01/2008, -10/+3Woo-hoo! Another supporter for an unelectable candidate! I guess we'll have to start getting used to seeing McCain delivering state of the union addresses...
    • Hetman, on 02/01/2008, -1/+2Please explain to me why you beleive he is unelectable.
      • RRJackson, on 02/01/2008, -4/+3This country is not going to elect a black man or a woman. It's a sad fact that my party would realize if they'd been to "flyover country" for anything other than quick insulated visits. It's almost funny that they think a nation that elected George W. Bush *twice* would elect a black man with an Islamic last name. Wait until the attack ads start. Obama will be a black drug addict with questionable ties to Islamic terrorism. Ma and Pa Kettle will vote for McCain to save Democracy, even though McCain apparently doesn't know the difference between the Russian Federation and Germany.
      • Hetman, on 02/01/2008, -2/+3That is just not true. I guess you do not realize the horrible situation that bush has caused Ma and Pa kettle. They will stay far away from any republican. They remember the years of Bill when the economy was good and the dollar still had value. I do not beleive their is as much racism in america as you are stating.
        • RRJackson, on 02/01/2008, -2/+2Believe what you will. In November we'll see a Republican administration just like we did in 2004. And in 2004 we were already at war, Enron had already happened...not just Enron, but Adelphia, Qwest, Merck and a whole laundry list of corporate scandals that had cost Americans billions of dollars. It didn't matter. Kerry had dishonored his country when he got wounded in Vietnam. It didn't matter that Bush sat the war out in the National Guard and was allegedly AWOL for a year during that time. At the end of the campaign Kerry was a traitor and Bush was a patriot. All that they needed to make that play was some old footage of Kerry protesting the war after he got home. Now they'll have admissions of drug use, indirect ties to an organization that supports Farrakhan and a list of other minor things that will make Ma and Pa Kettle feel like they aren't voting against his skin color, but voting in favor of a war hero.

          You can say a lot of things about the Republicans, but one thing they know inside-out is the way to influence "flyover country."
      • virtualme7, on 02/02/2008, -2/+2Obama will simply lose. Everyone else knows it and it doesn't matter how many endorsements he gets. You are obviously from the North. Even if they are open to a black president, Obama is against the right to carry concealed weapons. If they remember the years of Bill then they are taking Mrs. Bill. I don't care if the Pope endorses Obama.
  • govsucks, on 02/01/2008, -11/+11Funny, I thought they would endorse Chavez.
    • SiL3ncer, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I don't hear anyone laughing, it must not be funny after all.
    • siszam, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Good, right thinking, compassionate people DO support Hugo Chavez. It says a lot about you when you hate one of the most loved leaders who provides health care, education and program after program to help the poor of his country. Too bad American doesn't catch up to the civilized world too. What's wrong? You only support mass murderers like Bush?
      • govsucks, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Yeah, too bad we can't catch up with Chavez and make the most basic food hard to find and 10 times more expensive. Ya know, my wife is from Colombia and unlike leftist Americans she knows what true poverty is like. She knows what its like to be forced as a 10 year old little girl to cook for communist rebels, to fear for her life from the grand "revolutionaries" that take whatever they want from small villages in Colombia. She even got to watch as the FARC took her little brother at the age of 12 by force to fight with them and threatened to kill her father. So, assholes like you and Chavez, CAN SUCK ON MY DICK AND THE BARREL OF MY 9MM.
      • redmonkey, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Murder rate in Venezuela TWICE more then in Iraq right now.
  • scoottie, on 02/01/2008, -9/+3Well there goes Obama's chance. he is screwed now
  • Ireland, on 02/01/2008, -11/+13Obama '08 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • 10GunSalute, on 02/02/2008, -0/+6Just keep adding those exclamation points, the more exclamation points, the better the message will get through
    • fuzzmeister, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4As a committed Obama supporter, I buried that post without a second thought.
  • MuZiKMafia, on 02/01/2008, -14/+7If MoveOn supports Obama, it's just one more reason for me NOT to vote for him.
    • 10GunSalute, on 02/02/2008, -3/+1The people burying you have probably never even been to MoveOn.org, they're just Obama-tards happy for more support
  • u2wedge, on 02/01/2008, -3/+4I'm supporting Obama, but I'm not sure this is the best endorsement for him. MoveOn is pretty much vilified in the press.
  • AppleMacMan, on 02/01/2008, -10/+4If my sources are correct, Obama is a Mac user. He's got my vote!
    • ethornquist, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I am a Mac user, but this comment is ridiculous.
  • gluon, on 02/01/2008, -11/+4moveon.org is a bunch of spammers. they will fill your inbox with crap even though you don't request it.
    • fuzzmeister, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2You could just click unsubscribe, you know.
  • bingobongony, on 02/01/2008, -12/+2Sorry Barack...you had a pretty good shot too. Maybe 2012.
  • LeonThePro, on 02/01/2008, -8/+4Torn between dislike for MoveOn and hatred for Hillary.
  • Armitage, on 02/01/2008, -14/+2Look at all the people/newspapers endorsing him, that should be proof enough he's not going to change anything. Obama is going to hand this country over to the UN and CFR.

    BURIED.
  • aaroh, on 02/01/2008, -0/+5this is the biggest endorsement yet, 1.7 million members who can vote on Tuesday and they'll contribute to the phone banking....coolio
  • RationalXubrnce, on 02/01/2008, -10/+6 Moveon is George Soros' group and he has always been a heavy Clinton supporter. Soros is the right hand of the Rothschild family and always works in the interest of globalization as well as his own profit. I guess he see's Hillary as the underdog this time out. so much for Obama being "The Alternative"
    • fuzzmeister, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2Soros gave money to MoveOn, but he doesn't have any hand in running it, and didn't found it.
  • cigawoot, on 02/01/2008, -9/+3You know, MoveOn.org's endorsement will probably hurt him at the general election. Not good.
  • nastronomical, on 02/02/2008, -9/+5Moveon.org
    Thuggery in Action.
  • NonLeftistDiggr, on 02/02/2008, -1/+5I'm actually pulling for the guy to beat Hillary, so this isn't good. Moveon has a tendency of accomplishing the exact opposite of what it is trying to do.
  • rock774, on 02/02/2008, -8/+4That's a good reason not to vote for Obama !
  • iplayyouandme, on 02/02/2008, -1/+4I was all for Billary or Obama but she's tarnishing her image with all of her dirty politics. Now I'm only for Obama. As President, image is everything. Real leadership is providing a vision of future while surrounding yourself with "doers" that can carry that vision out. After all, JFK didn't do anything to get us to the moon, rather he inspired us with the collective will to do it. Healthcare for every American will also require this popular will or it will die just like Billary's former fight. We don't need a fighter or a (evil)doer, rather we need a leader with the vision to bring us together to get things done.

    I will never vote for her.
  • p0s3r, on 02/02/2008, -6/+2MoveOn.org just ruined BHO.
  • 10GunSalute, on 02/02/2008, -4/+5Why is everyone burying negative comments about MoveOn.org? Has anybody actually been to that liberal propaganda machine before? I can't believe this ***** made the front page...
  • z28com, on 02/02/2008, -8/+1Moveon should be PUNISHED for not endorsing RON PAUL! People, STOP BEING SHEEP!!! WAKE THE ***** UP!!!
    • nydwarf, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Baaaaaa vote Obama.
    • fuzzmeister, on 02/02/2008, -0/+1Wait, so if people disagree with you, they are automatically sheep and should be punished? How open minded of you.
      • z28com, on 02/07/2008, -0/+1What is there to disagree? What is wrong with voting for Ron Paul? Why on EARTH would you want to vote for somebody who does not have the credentials that Ron Paul has? Why do you want to vote for somebody who does not want to abolish the IRS? If Ron Paul is so bad, why are Democrats FLOODING to change their status to Republican just to vote for him? You obviously have not done your homework on him. A DEMOCRAT is the one who told me about Ron Paul in the first place! And this same person HATES REPUBLICANS. You are SHEEP because you are so ***** ignorant for voting for Obama instead of Ron Paul. If you did your homework on Ron Paul, you would see what an idiot you are for voting for Obama over Ron Paul.
  • Mark2600, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2MoveOn.org, that should really help him out...
    • ethornquist, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2This endorsement is like Nixon returning from the grave and endorsing McCain or Romney . . . - just some nonsensical specter casting a shadow over an otherwise promising candidate
  • jc801, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1This is how the system works:
    The more popular votes Obama will get = less electoral votes he will get
    which then equals what a huge scham our so called democratic system is because your vote doesn't mean ***** unless you are a high ranking politician.
  • mahsah, on 02/02/2008, -1/+3The Nation: MoveOn

    Wow, thats like Liberal SQUARED man.
  • Joshua1211r, on 02/02/2008, -0/+0GOBAMA!

    ITS TIME TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK ONCE AND FOR ALL.
  • UserAccount, on 02/02/2008, -5/+0One more reason to vote against him, cool.
  • hellsunicorn, on 02/02/2008, -6/+1This is not a site for soliciting political endorsements, buried.
  • ironpirate, on 02/02/2008, -6/+3Liberal propaganda website for a liberal. How about that.
  • DanOnTheMoon, on 02/02/2008, -6/+2COMMIES!
  • shagen454, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1Although, I don't really have a problem with Obama or Move.org - I find it strange to see that there aren't many comments for making front page; I smell an intentional diggin' campaign.
  • iplayyouandme, on 02/02/2008, -0/+2I was all for Billary or Obama but she's tarnishing her image with all of her dirty politics. Now I'm only for Obama. As President, image is everything. Real leadership is providing a vision of future while surrounding yourself with "doers" that can carry that vision out. After all, JFK didn't do anything to get us to the moon, rather he inspired us with the collective will to do it. Healthcare for every American will also require this popular will or it will die just like Billary's former fight. We don't need a fighter or a (evil)doer, rather we need a leader with the vision to bring us together.

    I will never vote for her.
  • refrus, on 02/02/2008, -8/+4Barack Obama "USA is a Muslim Nation"
    Barack was born to a Muslim father and Christian mother..[1]
    Barack's family on his father's side is predominantly Muslim, father( Baracka Obama snr) , grandfather (Hussein Onyango Obama) were Muslims, brother Abongo (Roy) Obama is Muslim.[2][3]
    Barack Obama 's name is a shortening of Baracka which means the blessed one in Arabic.[4]
    Barack Obana's middle name is Hussein ,an Arabic Muslim name which means "beautiful" or "handsome". It is commonly given to Muslim males after the name of the grandson of the Islamic prophet Muhammad , Ali, the fouth Islamic Caliph in Islamic history.
    Father Baracka Obama died in 1982, Barack described his father Baracka as a non practicing Muslim [5] though he got a Muslim burial at Barack's family's request.[6]
    Stepfather Lolo Soetoro was a Muslim from Indonesia.[7]
    Barack enrolled in Catholic school in Indonesia as a Muslim student.[8]
    When Obama attended 4th grade in 1971 in a Muslim school [9], Muslim children spent two hours a week studying Islam and Christian children spent those two hours learning about the Christian religion. Barack studied Islam.[10]
    Barack attended at least some friday Mosque prayers with his step father Lolo Soetoro .[11]

    Notes
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama — whose father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims "My grandfather was a Muslim
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama — whose father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims "My grandfather was a Muslim
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama’s family connections to Islam would endure, however. For example, his brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as Obama recounted when describing his 1992 wedding.“The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama — whose father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims — explained his own first name, Barack, in “Dreams”: “It means ‘Blessed.’ In Arabic. My grandfather was a Muslim.
    ^ http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/22/ ... My father was from Kenya,and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn’t practice Islam. Truth is he wasn’t very religious
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama?..the family wanted a Muslim burial,” Obama quoted his brother, Roy, as saying in “Dreams.
    ^ Baltimore Sun March 16, 2007 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.oba ... When he was 2, his father, Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan, and his Kansas-born mother, Ann Dunham, separated and later divorced. Dunham later married Lolo Soetoro, who was a Muslim. In 1967, the family moved to Jakarta, where Obama lived from ages 6 to 10.
    ^ Washington Post January 24 2007 At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering _ Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school,” he wrote in his first memoir, “Dreams from my Father.” “The teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies.
    ^ Baltimore Sun March 16, 2007 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.oba ... In his autobiography, Dreams From My Father, Obama briefly mentions Koranic study and describes his public school, which accepted students of all religions, as "a Muslim school."In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies,
    ^ Baltimore Sun March 16 2007 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.oba ... The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. "We prayed but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque. But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played," said Zulfin Adi, who describes himself as among Obama's closest childhood friends...Neighborhood Muslims worshiped in a nearby house, which has since been replaced by a larger mosque. Sometimes, when the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Lolo and Barry would walk to the makeshift mosque together, Adi said...."His mother often went to the church, but Barry ( Barack ) was Muslim. He went to the mosque," Adi said. "I remember him wearing a sarong.
    Barack Obama "USA is a Muslim Nation"
    Barack was born to a Muslim father and Christian mother..[1]
    Barack's family on his father's side is predominantly Muslim, father( Baracka Obama snr) , grandfather (Hussein Onyango Obama) were Muslims, brother Abongo (Roy) Obama is Muslim.[2][3]
    Barack Obama 's name is a shortening of Baracka which means the blessed one in Arabic.[4]
    Barack Obana's middle name is Hussein ,an Arabic Muslim name which means "beautiful" or "handsome". It is commonly given to Muslim males after the name of the grandson of the Islamic prophet Muhammad , Ali, the fouth Islamic Caliph in Islamic history.
    Father Baracka Obama died in 1982, Barack described his father Baracka as a non practicing Muslim [5] though he got a Muslim burial at Barack's family's request.[6]
    Stepfather Lolo Soetoro was a Muslim from Indonesia.[7]
    Barack enrolled in Catholic school in Indonesia as a Muslim student.[8]
    When Obama attended 4th grade in 1971 in a Muslim school [9], Muslim children spent two hours a week studying Islam and Christian children spent those two hours learning about the Christian religion. Barack studied Islam.[10]
    Barack attended at least some friday Mosque prayers with his step father Lolo Soetoro .[11]

    Notes
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama — whose father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims "My grandfather was a Muslim
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama — whose father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims "My grandfather was a Muslim
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama’s family connections to Islam would endure, however. For example, his brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as Obama recounted when describing his 1992 wedding.“The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? Obama — whose father, stepfather, brother and grandfather were Muslims — explained his own first name, Barack, in “Dreams”: “It means ‘Blessed.’ In Arabic. My grandfather was a Muslim.
    ^ http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/22/ ... My father was from Kenya,and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn’t practice Islam. Truth is he wasn’t very religious
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama?..the family wanted a Muslim burial,” Obama quoted his brother, Roy, as saying in “Dreams.
    ^ Baltimore Sun March 16, 2007 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.oba ... When he was 2, his father, Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan, and his Kansas-born mother, Ann Dunham, separated and later divorced. Dunham later married Lolo Soetoro, who was a Muslim. In 1967, the family moved to Jakarta, where Obama lived from ages 6 to 10.
    ^ Washington Post January 24 2007 At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering _ Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant
    ^ http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Isl ... The examiner Jamuary 29 2007 Can a past of Islam change the path to president for Obama? In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school,” he wrote in his first memoir, “Dreams from my Father.” “The teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies.
    ^ Baltimore Sun March 16, 2007 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.oba ... In his autobiography, Dreams From My Father, Obama briefly mentions Koranic study and describes his public school, which accepted students of all religions, as "a Muslim school."In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies,
    ^ Baltimore Sun March 16 2007 http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.oba ... The childhood friends say Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque. "We prayed but not really seriously, just following actions done by older people in the mosque. But as kids, we loved to meet our friends and went to the mosque together and played," said Zulfin Adi, who describes himself as among Obama's closest childhood friends...Neighborhood Muslims worshiped in a nearby house, which has since been replaced by a larger mosque. Sometimes, when the muezzin sounded the call to prayer, Lolo and Barry would walk to the makeshift mosque together, Adi said...."His mother often went to the church, but Barry ( Barack ) was Muslim. He went to the mosque," Adi said. "I remember him wearing a sarong.
    • stevebee, on 02/02/2008, -2/+1And now, he belongs to some Trinity Church whose pastor says Louis Farrakhan is the greatest. And Obama has all kind of Nation of Islam appartchniks working in his campaign. And Obama has professional terrorist-justifiers working for him too.
  • jonjon602, on 02/02/2008, -1/+1what digg conservative OReilly Defenders fail to see is that their hero bill O mis represented Edwards position to begin with. No where does Edwards say in his now infamous SC speech that 200,000 vets was a result of the economy but rather the 200K vet line comes after a series of paragraphs about giving a voice to poor people.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/26/us/politics/26te ...

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