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THE MYTH OF A TOSS-UP ELECTION - Center for Politics
centerforpolitics.org — Barack Obama is not a national hero like Dwight Eisenhower, and George Bush is no Harry Truman. But if history is any guide, and absent a dramatic change in election fundamentals or an utter collapse of the Obama candidacy, John McCain is likely to suffer the same fate as Adlai Stevenson.
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- BlankVerse, on 07/25/2008, -0/+11Here's a look, on 25 July 2008 at Five Thirty Eight, USA Election Polls, Electoral-Vote, Real Clear Politics, and Pollster (remember, 270 is the number need to win outright):
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ 292.4 vs. 245.6
http://usaelectionpolls.com/ 332 vs. 183
http://electoral-vote.com/ 292 vs. 195 vs. 51 ties
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama ... 238 vs. 163 vs. 137 toss up
http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/08-us-pres-ge-mvo ... 45.4% vs. 32.8%- Netwatcher, on 07/27/2008, -0/+3The thing I really love about the night cable news shows, is watching how they tiptoe around this fact, like its a monster under the bed.
As long as they don't admit its there, it can't get them, (and crash their ratings.).
- Netwatcher, on 07/27/2008, -0/+3The thing I really love about the night cable news shows, is watching how they tiptoe around this fact, like its a monster under the bed.
- mnvamsi, on 07/25/2008, -3/+1talking facts?
- Cheezo, on 07/25/2008, -2/+6what do you mean NOT a toss up...
voting for mccain would make anyone toss up...
it's just that voting for the obamamessiah would destroy the nation...
it's a pepto election either way...
tea party soon - Fangsinmybeard, on 07/25/2008, -1/+3The Fix was in long before any candidate was ever chosen. Anyone in either party would have worked. The presidency is a sham figurehead nowadays.
- Netwatcher, on 07/27/2008, -0/+1Yeah, everyone knows Diebold already accidentally leak the results of the election.
See it here, before our Shadowy Masters have us all liquidated.
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_acci ...
All hail our Shadowy Masters!
- Netwatcher, on 07/27/2008, -0/+1Yeah, everyone knows Diebold already accidentally leak the results of the election.
- BlankVerse, on 07/26/2008, -0/+3Here's a couple of more websites to check out:
http://www.zogby.com/50state/ 273 Obama vs 146 McCain vs. 119 Too close to call
http://campaigndiaries.com/ 256 vs 227 vs 55 Toss-up- Netwatcher, on 07/27/2008, -0/+2Right now depending on which maps/polls you look at Obama walks into the race with either winning majority of electoral votes, (or close to it), before the battleground states are even counted.
Several Republican pundits have tried to create election maps where McCain has a chance at winning, but even in their most fevered dreams they still only manage to just get by with 270.
Oddly this seems to fit with the narrative I'm hearing from the Republican camp.
"Its gonna be close..... but we (Republicans) might be able to just squeak by."
Whats really bad for Repub's is, this is the best case scenario, and when you best case scenario is that you might just squeak by, your pretty much screwed.
TL;DR
Obama could lose all of the Battleground states and still win. Republicans are screwed, and they know it.- BlankVerse, on 07/27/2008, -0/+1What I love is the fact that Lieberman may go to the Republican convention (and definitely won't be going to the Democratic convention), but several of the Senators who are in tight battles have already said that they will not go to the Republican convention.
I guess that they are going to pretend that they aren't Republicans and haven't been rubber stamps for Bush's various agendas--like the incumbent Republican senator in Oregon who is running ads touting how well he has worked with Obama.
- BlankVerse, on 07/27/2008, -0/+1What I love is the fact that Lieberman may go to the Republican convention (and definitely won't be going to the Democratic convention), but several of the Senators who are in tight battles have already said that they will not go to the Republican convention.
- Netwatcher, on 07/27/2008, -0/+2Right now depending on which maps/polls you look at Obama walks into the race with either winning majority of electoral votes, (or close to it), before the battleground states are even counted.
- bluepill2, on 07/28/2008, -0/+1Very interesting. Well, I guess the reason why the Obama campaign wouldn't want this in the news, is that it would discourage turnout. Very interesting regardless.
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