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Student Voters Pick Barack Obama to Win 2008 Election

money.cnn.com — The votes are in and student voters have spoken: Democratic nominee Senator Barack Obama is the winner of the 2008 Scholastic Election Poll, with 57% of the vote over Republican contender Senator John McCain, who received 39% of the student vote.

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  • ohnoerino, on 10/14/2008, -19/+128Hooray for the youth of today and their good sense.
    • wild, on 10/14/2008, -3/+34They have been correct for 40 years running. That is crazy.
      • diggduggjoe, on 10/15/2008, -3/+13No, it is just they usually go with what there parents talk about. My daughter is all Bob Barr. Though, I like to think she is libertarian at heart, but at her age she is just mimicking her family.
      • Tbyrd073, on 10/15/2008, -5/+3My family tried to pull the lesser of two evils argument and the Bob Barr wont win so why vote for him speech on me. I am voting for Bob Barr but I know that Obama is going to win.
      • Eslamicolt3, on 10/15/2008, -9/+9If you're not a liberal by the time your 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 30, you have no brain.
      • Elranzer, on 10/15/2008, -1/+2^^ Quoted during a time when liberals and conservatives were very different than now.
      • Shadwell, on 10/16/2008, -0/+1Hooray for the marketing professionals who have mastered manipulating the 18-34 demographic. Obama is as fashionable as an iPod.
    • SuperNinja2008, on 10/14/2008, -20/+7The youth are senseless sheep.

      http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1 ...

      http://www.zogby.com/News/ReadNews.dbm?ID=919
      • 80hd, on 10/15/2008, -4/+2true. The underdog can always be counted on to win.

        And Bush also had tons of negative rumors hounding him after a disastrous 8 year run by an incumbent with a horrible approval rating...
      • temujin2012, on 10/15/2008, -2/+6Wrong.

        The youth have to clean up whatever mess whichever candidate leaves behind.

        Both times they were hopeful that they wouldn't have a huge mess to clean up.

        After 8 years, we do have a huge mess to clean up.
      • OddMoniker, on 10/15/2008, -6/+1Baaaaa
      • aaronirwin31, on 10/15/2008, -2/+5It tends to be accurate because little kids parrot the vote of their parents. If mom and dad are talking up Obama or talking down McCain, they hear it and repeat it. It's an effective means of peeking into the hearts and minds of all the moms and dads across the country.

        I would imagine the reason they didn't call the JFK/Nixon election correctly was probably because more younger voters (those without children or very young children) voted for Kennedy and their votes were under represented. Just a guess on my part.
      • SuperNinja2008, on 10/15/2008, -2/+2@ temujin2012,

        America has messes and everybody has hope about them, but this doesn't mean that the youth are actually going to clean up the messes.

        The fact that the youth would ever vote for Obama or McCain, this proves that the youth are on the wrong track, that they don't know how to clean up messes, that -- once again -- they're only being brainwashed by their parents, schools, and the media.

        If the youth were to vote to revolt, against their parents and their corrupt institutions -- to support Ron Paul -- they would show some good sense, but, at this point, they're only a bunch of dumbasses and senseless sheep.

        Dumbasses and senseless sheep sell out their brains/liberties/country to tyrants, fascists, socialists, and criminals; selling out their brains/liberties/country is what they youth are doing, and this is what makes them another retarded generation of dumbasses and senseless sheep.
    • knightblade2oo4, on 10/15/2008, -1/+8I live in a very conservative town in central washington (read: wenatchee, wa) and work as graphic artist/photographer and columnist for our high school paper, we polled 500 students of the 2100-person student body and it was 254 for Obama, 105 for McCain, 89 Undecideds and 62 Independents. I found that really interesting coming from a town where i've seen literally 3 Obama signs in yards around town (and I've been looking).
      • aud24, on 10/15/2008, -11/+4Yes because the signs really have had the greated influence on the minds of the population... Hello, do a poll of how many of the students own a t.v... which has been effectually overrun by fanatical liberals.
      • Leviathan433, on 10/15/2008, -2/+9Ahhh - falling back on the myth of the liberal media. You know, reality has a liberal bias too.
      • aud24, on 10/15/2008, -3/+1It does for you... *greatest.
      • PersonalJesus, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2Dugg for Wenatchee.

        At least you guys have good dirtbiking land.
    • ssn697, on 10/15/2008, -2/+102 misses in the history of the poll, with JFK beating Nixon as one of those misses. That is some pretty impressive meaningless information!
    • GunOfSod, on 10/15/2008, -4/+4Good sense? 39 % of the best educated sector of your society are masochistic morons.
      • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -0/+9Its K-12. I don't consider people with less than high school "the best educated sector". It's more a reflection of what these kids are getting from their families.
      • keymanjim3, on 10/15/2008, -2/+2No. It's more of what they are being taught by their unionized teachers.
      • Latentk, on 10/15/2008, -3/+1Both are correct. It is impossible to make it entirely through K-12 and not be spoon fed some liberal/union *****. Good thing Diggerals are already so maleable. We have Gun on our side, though. ////////SARCASM////////
    • Lockhart, on 10/15/2008, -0/+24And the other 4% went to Harry Potter!
      • Puffles, on 10/15/2008, -2/+6Between Obama, McCain, and Potter, guess who's the only one who didn't vote for FISA, and guess who's the only one who didn't vote for the Patriot Act?

        Potter/Dumbledore '08
      • elizabethb221, on 10/15/2008, -0/+4If only! Except [SPOILER] Dumbledore's dead, so maybe someone else like Arthur Weasley.

        Or Hermione!
      • kcolwell24, on 10/16/2008, -0/+0I'd vote Granger '08!
    • 11b1p, on 10/16/2008, -0/+1Good thing for McCain that college kids tend not to vote
  • granolajoe, on 10/14/2008, -25/+11Ha. In Colorado, the only campus they must have polled was the "School of Mines" in Golden. I can't imagine the same type of results coming from CU in Boulder and the University of Denver.
    • cport11, on 10/14/2008, -13/+3That was the dumbest statement in the world. Boulder is like the most liberal city in the US maybe second to San Francisco. Get your facts straight. School of mines would probably be the only school in colorado to vote right winged... maybe UNC.

      • granolajoe, on 10/14/2008, -5/+12Hey *****, did you look at the results? My point was that the results were skewed to the right for Colorado. Thanks for underlining my point, and making yourself look like a jackass. By the way, I live in Denver, and I visit Boulder and Golden often. I know the demographics just fine, asshat.

        Colorado:
        McCain 61%
        Obama 36%
        Other 3%
      • sukmydigg, on 10/14/2008, -3/+7Get 'em Joe. I went to prison in Colorado, and I can tell you that the state is full of republicans. They just seem to blend in with the Dems because they are all hippie republicans. Smoking weed doesn't make you a democrat or liberal, just an enlightened Republican.
      • wedges, on 10/15/2008, -2/+1if you read the article you'd see McCain won in Colorado.
    • wedges, on 10/15/2008, -3/+6the scholastic vote is for elementary school, not university level. but if you want to talk right wing coloradoans, let's not forget the air force academy and CU springs.
    • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -3/+5It's a poll of K-12 students, not college.
    • zenbud, on 10/15/2008, -1/+2Intellectual curiosity and IQ, heard of it?
    • bsmang, on 10/15/2008, -1/+3RTFA dumbass.
  • gsgdiggs, on 10/14/2008, -4/+48San Diego is turning from Red to Blue...one campus has already signed up 2,000 new voters with a goal of another 2,000 to go. I think it is great that young people are getting involved this is an important election!
    • temujin2012, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5A bunch of my buddies going to SDSU are voting Obama, much to my delight!
      • ngmcs8203, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5I went to SDSU and am voting Obama. Does that delight you a well?
      • vuke69, on 10/15/2008, -2/+2@ngmcs8203

        Depends... Do you swallow?

        See, I only ask because you clearly have a mouthful of the kool-aid; and there's only two things you can do at this point. Spit, or swallow.

        http://i38.tinypic.com/ws1wky.jpg
    • Dabaum, on 10/15/2008, -0/+7Here at the University of Arizona we reached the goal of registering 5000 new voters.
      • crawfishsoul, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1ASU alum here. Good on you, as much as I hate to say it. ;p
    • the0ckid82, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3its great that they are signing up .... but ill be more impressed when they actually vote ... I'm a 26 year old who has never voted until now .. but i will be voting on the 18th (that's when early voting starts by me) the worst thing we could do is think great Obama has so much support because all the polls say he's gonna win and all these new people registering to vote ... and then none of them vote and Obama loses ... MAKE SURE YOU VOTE YOU DAMN LONG HAIRED HIPPIES! ***** i have long hair ...


      unless your voting for McCain ... then by all means you don't need to vote hes gonna win with out your vote
      /sarcasm
      • sleazycheese, on 10/15/2008, -0/+0I've said it once and I'll say it again. We should not trust those who cannot differentiate between "your" and "you're" with voting rights.

        Thanks for filling us in as to your age and length of hair, by the way.
    • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3That's nice, but this poll was conducted amongst elementary, middle, and high school students, not college students.
      • LoveLikeRockets, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1they have been right for past two elections, third time is a charm?
    • buddysystem, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1California's already solid blue, but hey, over 5,600 new registrants at UC Berkeley isn't bad.
  • ironeus, on 10/14/2008, -1/+32I understand the URL keeps going down to 404 status. Cnn pulled their info from here: http://www2.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=3 ...
  • smugmotha, on 10/14/2008, -4/+13Now that's the surprise of the century!
    • purzzzell, on 10/15/2008, -1/+4in other news, water is wet.
    • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -2/+1Why? FTA:

      Since 1940, the results of the student vote have mirrored the outcome of the general election all but twice: In 1948, kids voted for Thomas E. Dewey over Harry S. Truman. In 1960, more students voted for Richard M. Nixon than for John F. Kennedy. In 2000, a majority of student voters chose George W. Bush, mirroring the Electoral College result, but not the result of the popular vote.
    • cptshamrock, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2You live in a very unsurprising century apparently.
  • CraigKostelecky, on 10/14/2008, -3/+22Now we just need to get the real voters to do the same next month.
    • TheInformer, on 10/15/2008, -1/+3Students also thought Britney Spears and Paris Hilton had talent, and that American Idol was intellectual fair.
  • d1gg3r1, on 10/14/2008, -2/+16Now we just need the "youth of today" to give their opinion where it counts: at the polls.
    • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2Unfortunately, these kids are largely ineligible to vote (insert voter fraud comment here). The Scholastic poll is conducted amongst K-12 students.
    • hivoltage815, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1Children are usually reflections of their parents at that age, so make whatever predictions you would like.
  • ldmyers, on 10/14/2008, -39/+3Man, ***** the youth.

    They ain't rockin the vote for *****.
  • MHunt, on 10/14/2008, -35/+11What a surprise! Before voting, the kids were threatened by The Obama Youth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD_91X2vAg0
    After voting, they celebrated by singing hymns to The Chosen One. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcKrJSXo--g&feature ...
    • TruthinessHurts, on 10/14/2008, -12/+13Wow, a right wing liar. What a shock.

      No one was threatened.
      Nor did they sing afterward.

      So you think by being a liar you are a good person?
      Really?
      I think people who lie like you are traitorous pieces of filth.

      What is it about the right wing that makes them incapable of honesty?

      Great, Republican, you lied again. Go get your gold star.
      • JakeKreber, on 10/14/2008, -2/+13Don't feed the trolls sir.
      • TJATL, on 10/15/2008, -4/+1Is it possible for trolls to eat each other? There is no way that response, about a "right wing liar" is real.
      • phqu88, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3Yeah and that ***** doesn't scare you? Alpha Omega? Either a Frat or they are saying he is the beginning and the end...Camo Pants? WTF are you serious? That has hostility written all over it but you people are too blind to see. As for MHunt being a right wing liar? I call BS what about all you leftest pigs...you pull all sorts of crap out spinning it worse then a top. When something comes out about your messiah, its just swept under the carpet like nothing happened...open your eyes you idiots. You bash Palin for her daughter getting pregnant but yet theres nothing ever said about how obama's mom was knocked up....want to know the difference? Levis sticking around. Get over yourselves!
        -libertarian voting republican to piss you off.
    • flashback99, on 10/15/2008, -3/+5Oh look, what a surprise, it's caintardtroll.
    • zenbud, on 10/15/2008, -3/+3Careful, your ignorance and hate are showing
  • BeShirtHappy, on 10/14/2008, -4/+19I dugg this just for the fact that it came from "Scholastic"... anything to do with Scholastic is da bomb! As for kids voting for Obama - I'm not too surprised since I think he would be more of a draw to our youth than McCain.
    • wedges, on 10/15/2008, -0/+7maybe i'm going out on a limb here, but i think this particular age group is primarily going to vote the way their parents do. when i was that age (10-12) i didn't know anything about politics, and i supported george HW bush because my mom did. i certainly didn't know why. as i got older i figured out i had different values from my parents and made up my own mind.
      • chancesarent, on 10/15/2008, -0/+10I remember voting for George Sr in gradeschool for this poll because someone in our class started a rumor that Dukakis was going to nuke the world his first day in office. Nobody wanting to be nuked, HW won by a landslide in Mrs. Linhart's 4th grade class that day.
  • BoneStamp, on 10/14/2008, -9/+14Show your support for Bush, vote for McCain so he can champion the remaining Bush bills.
    • pintomp3, on 10/15/2008, -1/+4and keep bush's war going.
    • TJATL, on 10/15/2008, -6/+2Bush bills? From a Democrat controlled congress? I'm confused...
      • Spliced88, on 10/15/2008, -2/+2Yeah, Bush has only been in office for the past 2 years. we need more time to usher in the new world order!
  • ivencente, on 10/14/2008, -14/+3next thing---preschool elections
    • zenbud, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1That's when we get your vote, right?
    • keymanjim3, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1Well you can't have prenatal elections. The liberals keep killing the voters.
  • wild, on 10/14/2008, -17/+4I saw a video of this on CNN.com. The kid was so precocious I wanted to punch him in the mouth.
    • OddMoniker, on 10/15/2008, -0/+8But you can't, and you won't.
      Doesn't that just piss you off?
    • frygar, on 10/15/2008, -1/+2And you never, ever would, given the chance, because you're just another right wing coward like all the rest.
    • zenbud, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1So . . . you abuse your kids?
  • JakeKreber, on 10/14/2008, -2/+55"Since 1940, the results of the student vote in the Scholastic Election Poll have mirrored the outcome of the general election, except twice."

    go kids! :D
    • jerrycurley, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1those two times were probably the times when it was close.

      For example..mirroring 1984 and 1988 is no big feat.
    • xuanyan, on 10/15/2008, -0/+132000 and 2004?
      • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5Since 1940, the results of the student vote have mirrored the outcome of the general election all but twice: In 1948, kids voted for Thomas E. Dewey over Harry S. Truman. In 1960, more students voted for Richard M. Nixon than for John F. Kennedy. In 2000, a majority of student voters chose George W. Bush, mirroring the Electoral College result, but not the result of the popular vote.
  • 80hd, on 10/15/2008, -5/+14Already sent in my absentee ballot from Purdue U.

    Boilerup Obama!
    • jmpavlec, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2Glad to hear another Boilermaker voting for Obama. Lets turn Indiana Blue
    • sleazycheese, on 10/15/2008, -1/+0Lazy *****
    • KompressorV12, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1oregon duck (sorry for the game a few weeks ago) for obama!
  • kylafornia26, on 10/15/2008, -4/+14This video says it all. http://www.sharenow.com/base/content/42961/

    "We just need to vote"

    - Barack Obama
    • bdfariello, on 10/15/2008, -1/+3People simply boo McCain and he makes them stop. Meanwhile, at McCain campaign events...
  • keigwyn, on 10/15/2008, -10/+3Out of the mouth of babes...
  • KJGJ, on 10/15/2008, -18/+5I do believe Ron Paul has a larger support among young voters then McCain or Obama, as well as more supports from veterans then both combined. Say no to socialism and government intervention, change we can believe in my ass.
    • pilot3033, on 10/15/2008, -3/+3umm....RTFA
    • pintomp3, on 10/15/2008, -7/+8ron paul would have these poor kids learning about creationism.
      • btschul, on 10/15/2008, -4/+5Sarcasm? Ron Paul actually would completely eliminate the ***** up Dept. of Education and use all the money that they were wasting to give every family a $5000 tax credit per child per year for private school or homeschool. The beauty of free market education is that the government can't control it. So if you want to send your kid to a private school that teaches creationism, you can. If you, pintomp3, want to send your kid to a school that teaches that if you believe in God you should be shot, you can.
      • cptshamrock, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5Gotta love "Informed Voters"
    • GoSpeedGo108, on 10/15/2008, -4/+1Hey, I wanted Ron Paul as much as anyone, but can't you people realize that he's not in the election anymore...?
    • Subduction, on 10/15/2008, -5/+3Ron Paul has more support among young voters because they're so used to adults lying to them that Ron Paul fits right in.
  • poprocksandsoda, on 10/15/2008, -9/+5Good to know that America's youth has spoken ... since they never vote anyway it is nice to know how they would have voted had they made the time to this Nov 4th.
  • FENWAYFREAK, on 10/15/2008, -8/+3I'd be interested in seeing the voters grades in conjunction with who they voted for. See what intelligence levels are voting for who, if it is just even.
    • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3Knowledge isn't the same as intelligence. A 2nd grader can be just as intelligent as a 12th grader, though the guy who's been in school should know a lot more.
  • trotskyist, on 10/15/2008, -2/+28I am as shocked as I was when Clay Aiken admitted he was gay.
    • below413, on 10/15/2008, -1/+7Wait wait wait... Clay Aiken is gay!?
    • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -5/+3Were you just as shocked in 2000 when the same survey picked Bush? Or in 1980 when it picked Ronald Reagan?

      Silly me. You weren't alive in 1980. You were in the 2nd grade in 2000 (and voted for Bush).
  • tomjeff09, on 10/15/2008, -15/+8Super. The voters who don't have a dog in the fight are now making the difference? When Obama puts my company under, don't bitch about the fact that I didn't hire you. I'm sure he's got a better plan for you.
    • unhg, on 10/15/2008, -4/+5You already had a nice 8 year run. Now isn't it time for you to retire?
    • financedude2, on 10/15/2008, -4/+2l2runabusinessbetter

      -love a successful business owner
      • sleazycheese, on 10/15/2008, -1/+0Finance? Way to challenge yourself.
    • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -3/+3Last I checked, people under the age of 18 aren't eligible to vote. So, they aren't "making the difference" as you say.

      As for your company, you might want to examine how the policies of the last decade may have put it in the precarious position it's in today.
    • bsmang, on 10/15/2008, -1/+3Sounds like your business _needs_ to go under.
    • Tbyrd073, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2I am betting its because he is worried about the tax increases affecting his ability to hire and expand his business....it's a legitimate concern.
    • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -0/+0It's true, he will destroy this nation's economy from the bottom up by cutting funds to corporations, and highly taxing them at the same time.Before anyone says"who cares?" Answer me this- What is the biggest food franchise in America? What's one of the biggest store companys in the U.S.? And, the million dollar question, What does your car run on? That's right- Gasoline. Evil big oil going down would kill our economy and kill us all."my car runs on ethylene!" What if there's a drought?Hmm? We'd have no food. Almost EVERYTHING is made with corn. He's completely right, and I hope I've enlightened you all.
  • mgill3, on 10/15/2008, -9/+9OBAMA 08!

    now make DAMN SURE you get out and get that vote in, the whole country is counting on each and every one of us!

    PROGRESS!
    • Tbyrd073, on 10/15/2008, -2/+4CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!! With FISA / Patriot Act / $700B Bailouts!
      • aletoledo, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1wait a second....thats not change! Bush wanted the same things!
      • Tbyrd073, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1Well both McCain and Obama wanted them too.....o well....

        CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!!
    • sleazycheese, on 10/15/2008, -0/+0"My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." --Barack Obama

      You're right. The whole country is counting on each and every one of us!

      http://www.nypost.com/seven/10152008/news/politics ...
  • Retnuh730, on 10/15/2008, -14/+7These are just kids fighting their parents and voting democratic. Any educated person realizes once they get out of school their money's just going to go to fund the lazy poor in the form of taxes. People who are going to make money out of school are almost always vote to keep their money. Dig me down, I know people have heart attacks when anybody says anything bad about Jesus H. Obama.
    • InfernoX, on 10/15/2008, -3/+5I'm a socialist, I believe that the rich should pay more taxes than the poor because they don't need the excess money. Everyone deserves a baseline quality of life with the option to work hard for a higher standard of living.
      • btschul, on 10/15/2008, -4/+5"I believe that the rich should pay more taxes than the poor because they don't need the excess money." Who the hell are you to decide who has too much money? The poor guy can get a job just like the rich guy did. "Everyone deserves a baseline quality of life" No, actually they don't. That's the thing about freedom. You have the right to be obscenely successful like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet, but you also have the right to starve to death because you won't get off of your lazy ass and get a job. It's not the government's responsibility to take care of you. If you have health problems and can't work, there is charity and worker's comp. "because they don't need the excess money." That is scary and disgusting at the same time.
      • shauncorleone, on 10/15/2008, -1/+5So move to a Socialist country. Of course, with actually strong immigration policies, you probably wouldn't be welcomed with open arms.
      • aud24, on 10/15/2008, -3/+4@btschul you're right it is scary and disgusting at the same time... inferox is only a 16 year old kid... I wonder if people realize that Nazi Germany was socialist? How did Hitler grasp power? Through the youth, through the indoctrination of a weary population (much like our own right now)...
        I think I'll put this in an anecdotal way to prove my point... I worked very hard all throughout high school, stayed in to do homework while most of my friends partied, eventually graduated with a 4.97 (through hard work, good grades did not come easy from my school) and I eventually went on to get a scholarship to the school I wanted so badly to go to (all because of my own hard work and perseverance). Now imagine if I had never worked to attain my grades, they were simply given to me, because inherently, I 'deserve them', not only that, but I would not be able to go to the school of my choice, because I would now be part of the 'baseline'- a neutralized mass of students, no matter how poor they did in school, no matter how well I did in school, we would all be the same under socialist dogma.... I use this to illustrate the lack of understanding people have.... We have been raised in a capitalist society, which espouses that we have the ability to rise above... Imagine a society where that doesn't exist... where you are punished for your God given abilities... which essentially income redistribution does. Trust me you don't want this for our country.
      • btschul, on 10/15/2008, -1/+3I feel a little better after looking at his profile and seeing that he is just 16 and can't vote. I'll try to put this in terms that he can understand. Lets use Digg as an example. Lets say I comment on an article. I come up with the wittiest, snarkiest, funniest comment on that article. It gets like 600 diggs. Everyone loves it. Now you, infernoX, post a comment on that same article, but yours is awful. It's some stupid meme that no one finds funny anymore like "Can it run crysis?" Your lame comment gets like -15 diggs. Now, the political ideal that you subscribe to says that because I have so many diggs, I don't need them all, and some of my hard earned diggs should be taken away and given to you. You see, I earned those diggs with my successful comment. You had the same opportunity as I did. You could have posted ANYTHING, but you chose to post something that failed. So really, socialism rewards failure and punishes success.

        "“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” - Winston Churchill
      • InfernoX, on 10/15/2008, -2/+1Just because I'm 16 doesn't mean I'm an idiot. Know what poverty is? guess what it's caused by: unfair distribution of resources. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer because no one wants to share. Selfishness and Greed is the cause of every war. Disputes over wealth, property or land.

        Personal achievements are not affected by socialism. You get good grades in school? good for you. When I say "baseline quality of life" that doesn't mean that everyone will get high paying jobs and live in nice houses, it means that people will be able to live with their basic needs fulfilled and if they want more than that then they can get a job and benefit society.

        Is it so bad to want an equal and unsegregated society where everyone has an equal opportunity?

      • aud24, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2I enjoyed reading both of our little 8th grade story-time responses, this is how you have to speak to 'them' =).
      • btschul, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3"Is it so bad to want an equal and unsegregated society where everyone has an equal opportunity? " That's the thing. In a society where the government doesn't get involved, everyone DOES have an equal opportunity. Everyone starts out with a blank slate, and if you make something great, you succeed. If you don't, you don't succeed. In a system where the government takes money from the people who are successful and gives it to the people who aren't successful to make things equal, there is no motivation to be successful.
      • InfernoX, on 10/15/2008, -2/+1"Everyone starts out with a blank slate, and if you make something great, you succeed. If you don't, you don't succeed."

        No, not everyone gets an equal chance. For example, what happens if someone's family is poor as opposed to someone whose family is rich? They hardly have an equal opportunity in life.

      • btschul, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3That doesn't affect your ability to have an idea. In a free marketplace, if you have a good idea, and you market that idea right, you will be successful. Bill Gates came from a middle class family. Your family's wealth doesn't affect your ability to get a job. And even if it did, who are you to say that someone shouldn't benefit from their family's success?
      • InfernoX, on 10/15/2008, -2/+1"Your family's wealth doesn't affect your ability to get a job. And even if it did, who are you to say that someone shouldn't benefit from their family's success?"

        For any decent job, you need an education. Education costs a ***** load of money.

        Yeah sure, they can benefit from it. I'm not against people making money. I'm against people making OBSCENE amounts of money, millions of dollars.... and then seeing people with $20 to their name on the street. Yes, people ***** up. Should they be condemned to death because of it in a modern society? I don't believe so, especially when there is a solution to it.

        The U.S is going into a depression for ***** sake! Unemployment is going to go up and the rich are going to be sitting in one of their 8 houses( all of which I'm sure are extremely luxurious) sipping tea while the middle class is destroyed.

      • btschul, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3I know education costs a ***** load of money. I'm currently working on a Bachelor's degree. And I'm paying for it myself. I got a job during my 2nd year of high school and started saving money for college. I worked for a while after I finished high school, and now I am working during the day and going to school at night. I wasn't handed anything. I am happy to work for an education and get a job that pays well because I know it will pay off in the end. I would be much less inclined to work for a good education and get a good job if I knew that half of the money that I made was going to be taken away and given to someone who didn't feel like working for a living.
      • InfernoX, on 10/15/2008, -2/+1Good for you. There's a difference between "being lazy and not working for a living" and "starving on the streets". I don't think someone should be able to go through life without working either, but I do believe that everyone should have their basic needs met. In the long run, it would benefit society as a whole just as Employment Insurance and Pension plans do.
      • aud24, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2"Under socialism all will govern in turn and will soon become accustomed to no one governing."
        VI Lenin (The father of the former Soviet Union) The operative word being former...

        @InfernoX you are obviously an intelligent young man, but you are blindly optimistic... something that often diminishes with age... that said -to both of you- excellent debate... @bt- your hard work will pay off :-).

      • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -0/+0So your saying the rich and middle class should be punished for having more money?
    • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -0/+0Right on. You said it.
  • Gabberwok, on 10/15/2008, -1/+11Hm, I remember "Homer Simpson" always won as a write-in candidate at my school...
    • jc7012, on 10/15/2008, -0/+6I tied for third with the indian kid and "school sucks"
    • noahgelman, on 10/15/2008, -4/+4Me and my friends wrote in Hitler for Prom Queen. Unfortunately he lost :(
    • KingGorilla, on 10/15/2008, -4/+2You'd think it'd be the turd sandwich or the giant douche
  • tikited, on 10/15/2008, -8/+6Duh Obama is awesome and mccain is old for Halloween.
    I'm still voting for Obama and GOP can kiss my ass for saying naughty words everyday.
  • IrishCharm, on 10/15/2008, -6/+8Now let us take a poll on the students and find if they formulated their own opinion, or they allowed the media/school to influence what they chose. Maybe they did vote the majority for Obama, but how many really knew what they were voting for.

    That is just the thing, people focus on these pre-votes, but if you asked the questions, "Why did you vote for Obama." I bet a large response would either be I don't know, or because he is black.
    • iritegood, on 10/15/2008, -2/+5Same can be said about McCain. Ask most of the McCain supporters at my school who they'd vote for and they'd say 'McCain' in a heartbeat. Ask them why and they can't give you a straight answer.
      • IrishCharm, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3My point isn't who they voted for, my point is the tainting of the youth by media. We don't maintain vigilance enough on our youth to educate them about the views of presidents and what they mean. The media focuses on who is slinging the most mud, and why people stop endorsing who. Politics are losing their shine.
    • Jeeto, on 10/15/2008, -1/+4You say that like it's not how many adult voters pick their candidate.
    • KompressorV12, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1what iritegood said... i'll add I bet people who voted for mccain in that poll knew even less about their candidate... bullsht aside, I can see if ur a hardcore christian, someone who doesn't believe in womens rights, or a millionaire voting for mccain, but if you are none of those things why in the hell would you make such a stupid decision
    • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -0/+0It's true, what you say. "Oh, it would be racist not to vote for him!" He is only half black, so just dont vote for his white half!
  • bluekangaroo, on 10/15/2008, -2/+5Didn't student voters pick Kerry last time?
    • Hoffpa, on 10/15/2008, -9/+7yes just like the election before that. Students are brained washed by the liberal teachers of America.
      • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -1/+4They were brainwashed by the liberal teachers when they picked Bush in 2000? Or when they picked Reagan in 1980 and 1984? Or Bush's dad in 1998?

        Oh, teachers have only become liberals recently.
      • financedude2, on 10/15/2008, -1/+5Damn all those teachers with their knowledge and science and logic
      • belebih, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3No, they didn't. RTFA.
    • belebih, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1Nope. They picked Bush both in 2000 and 2004. In the last Scholastic Election Poll, Bush got 52% and Kerry got 47%.
  • CaLaVa, on 10/15/2008, -2/+4This is a good sign. They're reflecting how their parents will be voting. I hope it's a landslide.
  • Ramenhood, on 10/15/2008, -1/+7EVERY kid under 12 just votes for who they're parents are.
    • TJATL, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5Yeah because at 13 they really start to care....
      • Tfulp33, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1Yeah because they can vote at 12 and 13 years old.
      • Ramenhood, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2Well, I didn't want to over generalize. Some kids at 13 care.
    • voodoosteve84, on 10/16/2008, -0/+1That's why the poll works as a good predictor.
    • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -0/+0not true. I like McCain, but my parents arent even sure.
  • wedges, on 10/15/2008, -2/+5apparently they've been correct for 40 years.
    • IrishCharm, on 10/15/2008, -4/+1except twice, can you name them?
      • wedges, on 10/15/2008, -2/+5nixon over kennedy, dewey over truman. i read that article too.
      • bdfariello, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2As far as I know, both 1964 and 1948 are more than 40 years ago, so "correct for 40 years" is a true statement.
  • AWBoy666, on 10/15/2008, -14/+17You mean people who have never worked a day in their lives and will enter the lower-middle income bracket decided to vote for someone who is going to give them more money and services while charging value-adding entities like corporate America and the most successful individuals for it?

    YOU DON'T SAY!!!
    • pintomp3, on 10/15/2008, -9/+8you mean the people who are going to inherit the debt caused by the iraq war don't want to vote for someone who wants to keep us there for 100 years?
    • wedges, on 10/15/2008, -6/+6successful individuals like Richard Fuld? like Jeffrey Skilling? like Charles Keating? get off the horse, people who make that much don't need it all, and many who make that much haven't earned it legitimately. notice how Richard Branson, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, et al. make tons of money and give back immensely because nobody needs that much damned money. the top needs the bottom to thrive, and if you bankrupt the bottom with outsourcing, predatory lending, no support for education, then who is going to buy the products that make the corporations run? granted, most people are stupid and can't live within their means, but those corporations and politicians are responsible for promoting the culture of debt and cheapening the value of education.
      • Tbyrd073, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2So vote out the politicians who caused the problem. You dont have to punish the people who have become successful on their own (i.e. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet). They have invested wisely and captured the American dream and now Obama wants to increase government spending all while lowering income taxes on the middle class. Where the hell is the money going to come from?
      • Cougnut415, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1Who you say?

        http://images.salon.com/comics/boll/2008/10/09/bol ...
      • wedges, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1tbyrd: bill gates and warren buffet aren't complaining. people who have become successful on their own are frequently philanthropists, doing their part because they know with success comes responsibility. this shouldn't be an issue of forced re-allocation of assets, but a desire to help your fellow man. richard fuld took over $250 million in bonuses leading up to the bankruptcy of Lehman brothers. does he need $250 million? no. will he give anything back? probably not.
      • sleazycheese, on 10/15/2008, -0/+0Predatory lending is anti-poor? You make it sound as if these deadbeats were forced to sign loans at gun point.
      • wedges, on 10/16/2008, -0/+1of course predatory lending is anti-poor. it's ***** predatory. if i was talking about people being irresponsible, i wouldn't call it predatory, i'd call it stupid, dickhole.
    • JulieChu, on 10/15/2008, -7/+4At least students do their homework..
    • aceisstupid, on 10/15/2008, -6/+11***** off. I'm 19 and have had to have a job since I was 15 so that I could SUPPORT MYSELF.

      Umbrella statements like yours serve no purpose other than to create further divide in America.
      • obsolite, on 10/15/2008, -1/+0With all due respect, I highly doubt you were actually supporting yourself at 15. Maybe saving Mom from having to pay for your movie tickets and meals at the Food Court, but that's far from supporting yourself.
      • ZeroCubed, on 10/16/2008, -0/+1Actually obsolite, some cities allow part time summer jobs for youths ages 14 and 15. These aren't mow the lawns and babysitting jobs. These are actual city-assigned part time jobs in facilities with real responsibilities. I worked at a boys and girls club.

        And aceisstupid, if you care a whole lot about the money you're earning, you'd vote for Obama since he's planning to give more money for low income wage earners. With the extra money, you can get better food, or start putting some (or start putting even more) away into a separate savings each month so that you've got something to rely on if you suddenly lose your job, or you get hurt and need to pay hospital bills ect.
      • obsolite, on 10/16/2008, -0/+0Right, but what is the pay for these jobs? Maybe $8 an hour if you're lucky? Support yourself on that. Good luck. I've worked since I was 15 too. I got a job at a supermarket where I started out at minimum wage and it was enough for me to buy myself extra crap, but I couldn't possibly afford to put a roof over my head with money like that, and neither did aceisstupid. It's just untrue.
    • sleff, on 10/15/2008, -3/+7Study says most corporations pay no U.S. income taxes
      http://digg.com/politics/Study_says_most_corporati ...

      reuters.com — Most U.S. and foreign corporations doing business in the United States avoid paying any federal income taxes, despite trillions of dollars worth of sales, a government study released on Tuesday said.

      called the report "a shocking indictment of the current tax system." Levin said it made clear that "too many corporations are using tax trickery to send their profits overseas and avoid paying their fair share in the United States."

      The study showed about 28 percent of large foreign corporations, those with more than $250 million in assets, doing business in the United States paid no federal income taxes in 2005 despite $372 billion in gross receipts, the senators said. About 25 percent of the largest U.S. companies paid no federal income taxes in 2005 despite $1.1 trillion in gross sales that year, they said."

      Are these the "value-adding entities" you are talking about? The holiest of ever enlightened private sector companies that steal from the American People every chance they get? You really have something stuck up your ass.
      Are you blind?
      Good lord...
      • SpinningHead, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1To add, even under Eisenhower corporations carried nearly 50% of the tax burden. Now they carry less than 10%.
    • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -2/+3Did you say that when they voted for Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush again? Or does your analysis only hold when you're attacking Obama?
    • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -0/+0THANK YOU!!!!!! You finally said it!
  • Coolkid11, on 10/15/2008, -13/+5I masturbate to Obama.
    • lolwutpear, on 10/15/2008, -2/+10You've come to the right website.
  • iloveobama, on 10/15/2008, -12/+2Obama! Obama! Obama!
  • iloveobama, on 10/15/2008, -12/+2Obama! Obama! Obama! Change is coming!
  • JesseJ, on 10/15/2008, -5/+5Let's just hope Obama does not get assassinated!

    I say quadruple his security, because I saw the videos posted with the christian fundamentalists and their bomb- and death threats.
    • Hoffpa, on 10/15/2008, -8/+4maybe you should ask if william ayres will patrol.
    • KompressorV12, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1fk, if mccain wins lets pray to fking god he doesn't die in office, the only thing worse than him winning the election is if palin ended up becoming president... jesus everytime I think about palin being 2nd in line to run our nation I ***** my pants
    • bestsoccerdog, on 10/16/2008, -0/+1At the taxpayers expense, ya right. There are just as many people who hate McCain than hate Obama. He doesn't deserve any special treatment.
  • iamdak, on 10/15/2008, -2/+4Come on Colbert Nation, you can do better than that.
  • ridelesteambolt, on 10/15/2008, -2/+5"Some even voted for themselves"

    that's right, kids.
  • soonermandan, on 10/15/2008, -1/+3404!
  • lesoleil, on 10/15/2008, -4/+3but will he choose the Dulles or Kennedy desk?
    • ShoeSh1ne, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3Heroes?
      • lesoleil, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2what's weird is, i had a lesson on the Dulles brothers in the afternoon before Heroes that night.
  • thetrailofgreen, on 10/15/2008, -4/+0Obama will win, but there is no hope for him. Sell your Federal Reserve Notes. Vote Constitution Party. Chuck Baldwin or Ron Paul. It’s the same vote. Neither will win, but your vote will send a message. The true collapse will come under Obama’s watch. This is what the neocons want, and it is they, not Bush, who have been writing our policy these past 8 years. Bush may be stupid. Neocons aren’t. Actually, they’re rather brilliant. They want Obama to win. They need Obama to win. They’ve planted the seeds of economic collapse, and he can do nothing to stop it.

    When the real ***** hits the fan, under a Democratic President’s watch, desperately seeking answers, the people will once again turn to the only alternative, the Republicans.

    Republicans will say that Obama was wrong. They will say that Bush was stupid. They will talk of “new” “exciting” ways to rebuild this country. They will talk of illegal immigrants, terrorists, National RFID cards, North American Unions, and the Amero.
    The people, desperately seeking a way forward, will be intrigued. If they remain ignorant to reality and don’t understand the real causes of the collapse,, they will allow themselves to be duped yet again. Their few remaining liberties will be destroyed and their slavery ensured.

    Only truth will sway them in the other direction…sound money, freedom, liberty, free markets, no fiat money, no Federal Reserve, no deficit spending, no INFLATION!!!, no income tax, no sales tax, no war on drugs, no war on terror, no imperialism, no spreading our armed forces thin, no torture, no domestic surveillance, no secret prisons…

    Yes Ron Paul, yes Constitution Party, yes Thomas Jefferson, yes Benjamin Franklin, yes liberty. That or death. Or so a wise man said.

    Think long and hard.

    http://www.thetrailofgreen.com
  • Greekfreek, on 10/15/2008, -8/+2All I hear from people is that Obama is the best choice because all the students love him. Man it's pretty hard to dispute the judgment of educated America right? Here's the deal, as a college student in Massachusetts, I see the average caliber of student that's in love with Obama. Most of these students fit the following criteria. Most of them spend more time drinking than they do studying. They choose courses and professors that will give them the "easy road out", after reading reviews on www.ratemyprofessor.com as to boost their GPAs. Because of this, they are likely to enter the workforce unqualified, and will end up with stagnant careers that will leave them disgruntled, and unfortunately, even more attracted to the fake promises of the democratic party. In addition to this criteria, students have not started careers, and have NO CONCEPT as to the consequences of senator Obama's plans to redistribute the wealth. I don't know about all of you, but I don't want the very essence of the American Dream to be destroyed, after all, the success of this country has always been from individual aspirations in business. Wake up America.
    • nedzeve, on 10/15/2008, -1/+2"All I hear from people is that Obama is the best choice because all the students love him"

      I've never heard that. Once.

      What I have heard is that people are aching for change from the failed policies that have put the country in the position it is in today. What I have heard is that they're inspired by his vision, and they are inspired by his energy to take action and rebuild America. What I have heard is that Obama is the smartest, most articulate, and sincere leader they've seen in a generation.
      • sleazycheese, on 10/15/2008, -0/+0Yeah, but only when he's reading from a teleprompter.
      • Greekfreek, on 10/16/2008, -0/+0Get your ears checked. Right now you're only hearing senator Obama's "sincere" frequencies.
      • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -0/+0Yeah, about that, none of that stuff in blogs is truly fact, and really, GreekFreek is right on.
    • financedude2, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1Well, your tier IV college aside, good college students actually want to learn and use the skills and information they get during their college careers to make informed decisions. My brother is getting his mba at Harvard right now, blackstone internship too.. he's voting obama, and the majority of the mba's are too. Wallstreet is donating 2:1 to Obama, Doctors 4:1. Painting Obama supporters as clueless idealist is typical of the condescension going on in this campaign.

      I own my own business. I'm in the top tax bracket.

      Obama 08
      • sleazycheese, on 10/15/2008, -0/+0*****. Quit trying to justify your piss poor decision to get a business degree.

        Come on, "financedude" who "owns his own business" and is "in the top tax bracket"--you're trying WAY too hard.
    • thetrailofgreen, on 10/15/2008, -0/+0Obama's "plan to redistribute wealth" is the same as the old plan... poor paying the rich. The rich getting richer off the backs of the many. It's called inflation. It's called The Federal Reserve. It's been going on since 1913. And Obama ain't the least bit interested in changing it.
      • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -0/+0Obama wants to punish the rich for being rich. and the middle class more so. its simply called- Federal income tax hike.
    • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -0/+0I could not have heard a more perfect statement. Do you listen to Glenn Beck? Or is all the talk radio(shudder)Liberal?
  • kushin, on 10/15/2008, -2/+7The 39% who voted for McSame are either from a Republican household or academically challenged. I would probably go with the first one.
    • instrument, on 10/20/2008, -1/+0Anyone who votes for the Lord Masiah Obama are either left-wing lunatics, Tax thirsty Liberals, or homosexual.
  • gospe1337, on 10/15/2008, -2/+5I'm young. I support Obama. I still fail to see the relevance of this news.
    • fwelch, on 10/15/2008, -5/+3He wants change. Would you like to see change in America?

      How about a Communist government? Maybe we can have a Socialist government where the rich get taxed and we get all their money. Sounds good doesn't it??

      Maybe we can all have a National medical program. You know like they have in Cuba, England, and Canada.
      That would be really nice. That is more tax dollars from all those idiot rich people. Who cares........

      We can have open boarders and let the whole world in. Yea, give to the world I say since we are the richest around. Those rich people that own businesses man could we tax them and get their money to give away.......
    • TJATL, on 10/15/2008, -3/+2You're young and you'll realize soon, "If you’re young and conservative you have no heart, if you’re old and you’re a liberal you have no brain".

      Let's say you work really hard in school, and after graduation you go to college. You study really hard there as well and you later become a successful lawyer, doctor or even a business person. Let's say you make over $250,000 a year. With Obama, your taxes will be increased. You may not grasp the impact this can have now, but these are taxes on your INCOME. All the hard work you put in to be successful is rewarded with the government seizing an even bigger portion of your paycheck. That means, part of the time you work, it is as a slave to the state, as the money goes directly to them. In fact, even if you work at McDonald's for the rest of your life, you are still a part time slave to the state. The government withholds a portion of your paycheck and only at the end of the year can you fill out a form to request a refund because they either over taxed you or you didn't make enough money. You never, NEVER, take home the amount of money you earned because the government automatically seizes it. How does the future look to you? Does it motivate you to be successful?

      Hopefully you will see the light one day and take the original quote to heart. Also, as an alternative to the income tax look into the fair tax at fairtax.org.

      Do your own research on the income tax, and the fair tax, Ask yourself is taxing your labor really fair and just and does punishing success the right path for our country? Ask your parents, your fellow students and your teachers and I'm sure you will be amazed at their answers. Another fun thing to do is ask those same people how much they paid in taxes last year. If they said they got a refund, then they don't grasp the idea they still paid taxes, but were over taxed the whole year and received a refund after filling out a bunch of forms.

      Good luck!
      • darlingt, on 10/15/2008, -1/+2The "FairTax." Isn't that where someone like me, who makes ~25K a year, and spends all of it to live, gets 100% of my income taxed, whereas someone who makes ~250K a year, and spends 50K of it, only has to pay taxes on that 50K -- 20%? Oh, yeah... that's fair all right.
      • TJATL, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1@darlingt - I encourage you to read up on the fair tax as well. For one, with an income tax, you don't take home your whole paycheck. With the fair tax you would and if you already spend it all to "survive", you would now have money left over to SAVE. Yes, you are taxed on what you spend, however, anyone below the poverty line, would still be taxed at 0. Why? Through the use of monthly prebates. These prebates are based on family size and the cost of living expense.

        Your choices are an income tax, which doesn't allow you to take home your full paycheck and requires you to fill out a form to get your money back at the end of the year. The other choice is the fair tax, which allows you to take home you full paycheck, only taxed on what you spend, and gives you monthly prebates.

        Again, please go read up on it and see that the liberal propaganda is just that.

        "The FairTax is regressive and shifts the tax burden onto lower and middle income people"

        The truth: The FairTax actually eliminates and reimburses all federal taxes for those below the poverty line. This is accomplished through the universal prebate and by eliminating the highly regressive FICA payroll tax. Today, low and moderate income Americans pay far more in FICA taxes than income taxes. Those spending at twice the poverty level pay a FairTax of only 11.5 percent -- a rate much lower than the income and payroll tax burden they bear today. Meanwhile, the wealthy pay the 23 percent retail sales tax on their retail purchases.

        Under the federal income tax, slow economic growth and recessions have a disproportionately adverse impact on lower-income families. Breadwinners in these families are more likely to lose their jobs, are less likely to have the resources to weather bad economic times, and are more in need of the initial employment opportunities that a dynamic, growing economy provides. Retaining the present tax system makes economic progress needlessly slow and frustrates attempts at upward mobility through hard work and savings, thus harming low-income taxpayers the most.

        In contrast, the FairTax dramatically improves economic growth and wage rates for all, but especially for lower-income families and individuals. In addition to receiving the monthly FairTax prebate, these taxpayers are freed from regressive payroll taxes, the federal income tax, and the compliance burdens associated with each. They pay no more business taxes hidden in the price of goods and services, and used goods are tax free.

        How can the FairTax generate lower net tax rates for everyone and still pay for the same real government expenditures? The answer is two-fold. Firstly, the tax base is dramatically widened by including consumer spending from the underground economy (estimated at $1.5 trillion annually), and by including illegal immigrants, those who escape their fair share today through loopholes and gimmicks. In addition, 40 million foreign tourists a year will become American taxpayers as consumers here. Secondly, not everyone's average net tax burden falls. For households whose major economic resource is accumulated wealth, the FairTax will deliver a net tax hike compared to the current system.

        Consider, for example, your typical billionaire, of which America now has more than 400. These fortunate few are invested primarily in equities on which they pay taxes at a 15 percent rate, whether their income comes in the form of capital gains or dividends. In addition to having the income from their wealth taxed at a low rate, the principal of their wealth is completely untaxed either directly or indirectly. Assuming they and their heirs spend only the income earned on the wealth each year, the tax rate today is 15 percent. In contrast, under the FairTax, the effective tax rate is 23 percent. Hence, the very wealthy will pay more taxes when the FairTax is enacted. In a nutshell, those who spend more will pay more but low, moderate and middle income taxpayers will benefit from the greatest gains in reduced tax liabilities.
    • aletoledo, on 10/15/2008, -1/+4The relevance is that it doesn't take an adult mind to believe in words like "Change and Hope", they are very basic concepts. So it means that Obama is being elected on a platform that is comprehensible to a child. Now the question you need to ask yourself is whether our problems were so simple to begin with, why didn't anyone think of "Hope and Change" before now?
  • rdmorley, on 10/15/2008, -0/+9Really? Front page?
  • Barackalypse, on 10/15/2008, -8/+7They better pay closer attention to their classes, it looks like they have a lot left to learn. I could understand if this was solely because of cynicism over McCain, but I've talked to some of these people and they're so deluded they think Obama warrants a vote on his own merits. Thats just scary. This is another election full of losers, the last time we had a good choice was in the 80's when Reagan was running.
  • spectre51, on 10/15/2008, -1/+2Wow they came up with that conclusion themselves just now? Thought this was obvious months ago.
  • C00der, on 10/15/2008, -7/+6Sweet!!!! Kerry is going to win too!

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/15/student. ...

    Oh wait... ;-)
    • sugarazor, on 10/15/2008, -3/+1Not what this article is about.
    • TheInformer, on 10/15/2008, -1/+2"Poll: Kerry leads Bush among students"

      How dare you bring up the past like that? The myrmidons will be displeased.
    • LoveLikeRockets, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1did you read the article? the student voters can't actually vote in novemeber they are underage.
  • MrSparkle666, on 10/15/2008, -5/+3Only 57%? Were *****!
    • oblique63, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1yeah, Im a bit concerned at the fact that so many kids voted McCain... politics aside (because that obviously wouldn't matter so much to this demographic), that seems like voting for Rumpelstiltskin over Batman or something...

      it's just not right...
    • Tbyrd073, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3How many voted for Bob Barr or were even told about 3rd parties? O yea they wouldn't want the kids to grow up thinking they had more than 2 choices....
      • LoveLikeRockets, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1they voted for Hillary Clinton even tho she's not a 3rd party . you of should of read the article.
      • Tbyrd073, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1My comment was because although 4% of them "wrote in" their choice. They were not educated on who all the presidential candidates were. Why not? Also saying "You of should of read the article." worked well for you I think. I think one of your words was unnecessary in that statement.....
  • macq1, on 10/15/2008, -4/+4I can relate to all of this. When I was in school, I was very liberal and had bold idea's for the world. As we look at the late 60's we see that most of the upheaval and protests accure on college campuses'. The funny part is that the average registered republican has at least a 4 year degree versus an assoc for the avg reg democrat(look it up). The hard part to accept for us all is that we live in a world of tyrants and force. Whether we compare the board room or the ideological battlefield. One needs only look at history to reveal that discussion and debate is the surest way to encourage naked aggresion in its most base and terrible form. As most of you age and gain wisdom you will not let your dreams die. You will realize that they need to be defended vigilantly and forcefully. Stand not against for what someone represents but who they are and vice versa. Don't vote for some one because you think he deserve it or he represents our collective guilt, vote because he will actaully lead our good nation to greatness.
    • theokandroid, on 10/15/2008, -1/+2I am.
    • jmpavlec, on 10/15/2008, -1/+1CNN.com says you are wrong. This is only a small subset (13,251 Respondents) so it could be unintentionally biased but this was the first thing i could find. What's your source?
      (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/sta ...

      VOTE BY EDUCATION
      TOTAL Democrat Republican
      No College Degree (55%) 53% 45%
      College Graduate (45%) 53% 46%

      VOTE BY EDUCATION
      TOTAL Democrat Republican
      No College Education (24%) 56% 43%
      College Educated (76%) 52% 46%

      This is also relevant
      http://www.gallup.com/poll/106381/Obama-Education- ...
      • Jaymoon, on 10/15/2008, -0/+1And news outlets have used far less than 13,000 in their polls to represent the entire country....

        The only poll that matters is going to be held on Nov. 4th.
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