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- cashman57, on 10/17/2007, -3/+46I just wish someone would have enough drive to prove that what happened after the debate was NOT a massive show of support for the candidate that won the debate.
They make these allegations as if they had some merit or credibility but when it comes to proof they are woefully lacking.
I wonder what they plan to do when he wins the primary by a lanslide?- reed311, on 10/17/2007, -27/+7"I wonder what they plan to do when he wins the primary by a lanslide?"
They won't do anything as they don't live in the alternate-reality that you apparently exist in.- xdream, on 10/17/2007, -0/+21hahaha... another neo con bushbot in the state of delusion.
- reed311, on 10/17/2007, -27/+7"I wonder what they plan to do when he wins the primary by a lanslide?"
- whatthehell9, on 10/17/2007, -3/+40what will happened? they'll crap their pants....
We are not backing down. We come from all paths of life. We don't agree with Dr. Paul on everything, we don't agree with each other everything. We don't care about labels, Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal, Libertarian or any other. First and foremost, we are Americans and it is our time to be heard. We are tired, we are piss off, we have a lot people, we are motivated, we are inspired, we have money and we want our country back.- mrgreenjeans, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2What will happen, I fear, is that they will say the primaries were hacked.
- theelectricafro, on 10/17/2007, -1/+30The Digg community knows this propaganda is not true. Yesterday a Ron Paul Story got over 11,000 Diggs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA Is Digg.com real? Or is it a Conspiracy? Is this smear campaign a direct attack on Digg? You decide by voting for this story.
- cyborgmind, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2Awesome video...
- srodolff, on 10/17/2007, -2/+17This is inaccurate. The smear campaign is against the people who post Ron Paul stories here.
- xdream, on 10/18/2007, -0/+33 my letter to that ***** peice of ***** Allen Bastard:
While I can appreciate your sentiment about the Presidential Polling, you're not taking into consideration a few facts:
1) There is only one vote per IP address.
2) As a show of hands, the other candidates supporters can vote also, unless they don't have support.
3) You're saying that only Ron Paul supporters can hack sites. So, only Ron Paul supporters are dishonest? That is irresponsible in the least.
As far as ruining the purpose of the poll, it was a very honest showing of hands. If any other candidate had supporters other than the so-called "scientific" polling shows, they could have voted also. The fact is that the scientific polling by media owned groups can be skewed depending upon the collection, the analysis, or the interpretation. Plus, it would be nice to know WHO was doing the polling and what their "scientific" criteria was. A "random sampling" may or may not be representative of ALL registered voters. Plus, voters can very easily be influenced by the media... and the media is influenced by the MONEY... And guess who gets the money when candidates buy ad space? That's right. You guys.
If there are 100,000 voters, and 68,000 of them are Ron Paul supporters, as there are on his MySpace page, then it's obvious he is going to get 68% of the vote. And until you can prove that your site was hacked, I would stop the false accusations. Ron Paul received 5.1 million dollars this quarter, and the average donation was $40. That, plus or minus some, equals 125,000 people. I'm sorry, Sir, but the other candidates WISH they had that kind of support. Did they "hack" the donation system? I think not.
And as far as you taking down the poll, your decision is based on a faulty premise. Your censorship is biased and obviously driven by your collectivist philosophy. You assume that there were only "few". However, as I've proved above, you are wrong in your assumptions.
Your real problem is that when the people start questioning the so-called "authorities" and "corporate media" methods of polling, you quickly react in fear.
You will see hundreds of thousands at the polls this coming primary. The only way Ron Paul can't win is when diebold machines are "hacked" into. When that happened in Florida to Kerry, your voice was strangely silent.
Who are the hacks?
I, as a staunch right wing Christian conservative Republican, am disgusted and ashamed of what our media has become.
x- DuckofDeath11, on 10/17/2007, -0/+19*That* letter kicks ass and I applaud you for writing it.
Thank you!!!!- xdream, on 10/17/2007, -0/+14You're welcome. ever need a letter defending President Paul, I've hundreds. I'm sick of these haters of the Constitution. They are traitors! And like my father used to say, "The long arm of justice is never blind."
- cyborgmind, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4The pen is mightier than the sword...
- xdream, on 10/17/2007, -0/+14You're welcome. ever need a letter defending President Paul, I've hundreds. I'm sick of these haters of the Constitution. They are traitors! And like my father used to say, "The long arm of justice is never blind."
- kayaker712, on 10/16/2007, -0/+12The so-called "scientific polls" chose the respondents by what they call "likely voters"
As I have said before, their idea of a "likely voter" is probably not correct anyway. Statistical sampling by random may be accurate in your target group but how do you define that target group accurately?
Well the polls ask registered Republicans who voted in the last primary which usually means they voted Republican. So what the pollsters are doing s identifying a group of Bush supporters and asking who they would support. It should be no surprise what the answer is. the real question is do registered republican who voters R in the last primary representative of the entire voting population? No very likely in this case. This is shown historically by all the pre-primary polls in the past.
Ignore the polls and listen to what the media is saying. They know what is going on even if they deliberately fail to report it. If Ron had no chance they would silent.
They are scared, very scared. - 2trkpony, on 10/16/2007, -0/+5nice one xdream...tho I wouldn't hold my breath awaiting his 'reply'...Your letter should be duly forwarded to the typical corporate media info-tainment 'news' outlets..
- fasiv, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1couldn't have said it better myself. kudos
- ZZeke, on 10/17/2007, -0/+2xdream, great comment...
but do you have to mix your religion with politics? It really makes you look hypocritical..."staunch right wing Christian conservative Republicans" have been and continue to be one of the most distortionist groups ever involved in our political process. It is in the very churches you worship in that the lies of the Bush administration have been disseminated as gospel. Christian churches around the country are guilty of promoting war in the middle east as a "holy war" which is not only deemed necessary but also somehow glorious. You should take the separation of church and state more seriously, like Ron Paul does. You are absolutely entitled to your beliefs, but when you bring them into our collective political process, it cheapens and weakens both the church and state, and alienates non-believers like me immediately. Paul is also a christian conservative, but I haven't heard him identify himself as such since the campaigning started. In fact, when questioned about it, he clearly states that his belief in the separation of church and state is more important to him than identifying himself as a "christian candidate". When questioned about abortion, he states that it is his christian belief that it is wrong, but he would make no move on behalf of the federal government to stop it, because it is clearly a state's issue as set forth in the constitution.
While I believe that you have the right idea about the issue at hand here, and I believe you are backing the right candidate, I can't help but wonder and worry what exactly a "staunch right-wing christian conservative" hopes to get out of a Paul presidency. Please try not to take it too personally - for all I know, I'm jumping to conclusions about you, you might believe in the same kind of strict constitutionalism that Paul represents - but the label you give yourself puts you in some pretty dangerous company. For starters "right-wing" and "conservative" are no longer one and the same - for example: Bush and his neo-con syndicate are certainly considered "right-wing", and he ran on a "conservative" platform...but we all know by now that his version of "right-wing" has absolutely NOTHING to do with "conservativism". At this point, I don't think it's possible to be "right-wing" and "conservative" at the same time - a true "conservative" could never support the current "right-wing" politicians and policies, and vice-versa. "Left-right" itself is just a means by which the government keeps us at each other's throats, bickering over non-issues like abortion and gay marriage, instead of organizing together to prevent things like NAFTA, CAFTA, the NAFTA superhighway, war in Iraq (and now potentially Iran), etc, etc, etc.
I agree with your comment, but I don't understand why you would label yourself as such. maybe you can spell it out for me, give me some info on your point of view, why you would place yourself in such company as Dobson, et al, when it has become abundantly clear that such groups have supported the illegal Bush-Cheney agenda since day one, and continue to.
- DuckofDeath11, on 10/17/2007, -0/+19*That* letter kicks ass and I applaud you for writing it.
- MrGrinchstick, on 10/17/2007, -16/+5That is the flimsiest piece of "journalism" I've ever seen.
Whatever the standing of the rag that posted this trash, this story will lower it.- xdream, on 10/23/2007, -1/+10Well, we won't be holding our breath for your version. Oh, btw, did you understand the context? Perhaps you can comment on that, instead of being the journalism police. moron.
- kayaker712, on 10/17/2007, -0/+29Excellent news to me. You only get flack when you are over the target. Now even the MSM thinks Ron can win.
They are running scared.
I am going to celebrate by sending another $250 to the campaign.- xdream, on 10/16/2007, -0/+12Me too, Kayaker! I'm sending $100-$250 every payday until i reach $2,300!
- jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -16/+1They aren't scared. If Ron Paul somehow wins the Republican nomination (he won't), Hillary will easily beat him in the general election.
- spartacus409, on 10/16/2007, -0/+8If they are not scared then why the attacks, demonstrably false attacks to boot. As uisual, jcm your analysis is worthless.
- jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -10/+2What false attacks?
- xdream, on 10/16/2007, -0/+9well, if they weren't scared, they wouldn't be making the hit pieces. Hillary won't beat him after everyone hears Ron speak. And since you're not some seer or prophet, and can't predict the future, I'd say you are easily full of *****.
- jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -10/+3I base my opinion on polling data. My favorite example was during a New Hampshire debate where Frank Luntz showed the positive/negatives for Ron Paul and Huckabee during their big "showdown". Ron Paul's negatives with both Republicans and moderates were off the charts.
As far as I can tell, the more people hear Ron Paul speak the more they are turned off.
- jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -10/+3I base my opinion on polling data. My favorite example was during a New Hampshire debate where Frank Luntz showed the positive/negatives for Ron Paul and Huckabee during their big "showdown". Ron Paul's negatives with both Republicans and moderates were off the charts.
- spartacus409, on 10/16/2007, -0/+8If they are not scared then why the attacks, demonstrably false attacks to boot. As uisual, jcm your analysis is worthless.
- LalW, on 10/17/2007, -0/+23How much longer are these pieces of filth going to continue with these covert propanda-style psy ops? Do these people REALLY think the American populace is *that* gullible? I'm sending a letter to this agent of the Establishment today letting him know that I am hip to his psychological operation. And I encourage others to do the same, citing the strong evidence showing that Ron Paul's popularity is NOT based on a clever conspiracy, but on the message of freedom and responsibility he advocates.
If any damned conspiracy exists (which he implied by his allegations), it is the one to keep RP out of the public eye by marginalizing his campaign and his message.
There is something good about this though. It shows the Establishment is scared ***** by Doc No's campaign. Otherwise they wouldn't be trying so hard to knock him outta the box. This also shows OUR success at getting him there!
KEEP IT UP, people! KEEP IT UP!!
RON PAUL REVOLUTION ON THE ATTACK!- xdream, on 10/16/2007, -0/+10HELL YA! They are running scared, and we're growing exponentially! Here we come! And nothing can stop us; Not liars, not false flags, not dirty bombs... nothing can stop the message of freedom! "No poison shall harm them". Be not afraid of the enemy. He's all smoke and mirrors.
- perbertt, on 10/17/2007, -0/+19Ron Paul gives me hope. You know he is the real deal when the mainstream corporate media blatantly smears and ignores Ron Paul. He is a good one. Get that man into office!!
- 2trkpony, on 10/16/2007, -1/+5amen..the fact these corporate media shills are smearing him, blatantly lying & fabricating their typical 1-digit I.Q. desperate spin B.S. tells you *Ron Paul is the real deal amongst a sea of charlatan, phony corrupt government criminals**. That tells you Paul is the candidate to vote for, the right one. Controlled corporate media would NEVER trash Ghoul-aini, Clintoon, George W. Bush, or Mitt Romney in anything remotely resembling the below-the-belt fabrication crap they do with Ron Paul. They even criticize Paul for referencing the United States Constitution! for crying out loud. "How dare he! uphold the Constitution'.
A good man like Ron Paul won't play ball with the criminals, so he gets media blackout, ignored, & shafted on their propaganda outlets. What do you expect? - jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -7/+3Jamey....
Which media outlets are ignoring Ron Paul and which ones are smearing him?
- 2trkpony, on 10/16/2007, -1/+5amen..the fact these corporate media shills are smearing him, blatantly lying & fabricating their typical 1-digit I.Q. desperate spin B.S. tells you *Ron Paul is the real deal amongst a sea of charlatan, phony corrupt government criminals**. That tells you Paul is the candidate to vote for, the right one. Controlled corporate media would NEVER trash Ghoul-aini, Clintoon, George W. Bush, or Mitt Romney in anything remotely resembling the below-the-belt fabrication crap they do with Ron Paul. They even criticize Paul for referencing the United States Constitution! for crying out loud. "How dare he! uphold the Constitution'.
- Jim0000000002, on 10/17/2007, -0/+15
- jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -12/+2What do Slim Jims have to do with getting Ron Paul elected?
- jcm267, on 10/18/2007, -24/+2Buried as more spam courtesy of Alex Jones.
- spartacus409, on 10/16/2007, -1/+10Again you demonstrate that you have nothing of any value to contribute to the discussion. You just sit there and snipe and whenever anyone engages you in debate you ignore it and go snipe at something else.
- jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -13/+3What is there do debate? The only people who spam digg more than Alex Jones are Ronbots. You guys have a HUUUGE persecution complex. You should be happy that your candidate is getting as much positive media attention as he is, considering where he's standing in the polls.
- keithgplayer, on 10/16/2007, -1/+7You know there are other stories to read on digg. So why don't you read those instead of searching for Ron Paul stories, burying them, then going to comments just to talk trash.
- jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -9/+5I don't search for Ron Paul stories. They just show up on my friends list. I'm not commenting here "just to talk trash". I want to help spread the truth about 9/11 and Ron Paul.
- keithgplayer, on 10/16/2007, -1/+7You know there are other stories to read on digg. So why don't you read those instead of searching for Ron Paul stories, burying them, then going to comments just to talk trash.
- spartacus409, on 10/16/2007, -0/+7I guess nothing since a debate implies people presenting points on both sides which you always fail to do.
So you are right for once, there is no debate or at least none that you ever contributed to- jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -10/+2I have presented facts to the Troofers in the past, they just prefer to ignore them. With the Ronbots it's less black and white, but I have presented you guys with polling data that shows how piss poor he's doing and actual quotes that indicate the Ron Paul is a racist.
- jcm267, on 10/17/2007, -13/+3What is there do debate? The only people who spam digg more than Alex Jones are Ronbots. You guys have a HUUUGE persecution complex. You should be happy that your candidate is getting as much positive media attention as he is, considering where he's standing in the polls.
- spartacus409, on 10/16/2007, -1/+10Again you demonstrate that you have nothing of any value to contribute to the discussion. You just sit there and snipe and whenever anyone engages you in debate you ignore it and go snipe at something else.
- erikph7, on 10/16/2007, -1/+12... "That's right Allen -- Ron Paul is faking his popularity and ... WAIT! --- This just in... Santa Claus is real and living at the North Pole"
- 2trkpony, on 10/17/2007, -0/+13Too bad these controlled, corporate media info-tainment aka: "news" outlets fail to analyze the fake Bin Laden videos with similar venomous fervor as they do with Dr. Paul...Never accept anything the Bush administration or any future administration says on the so-called "war on 'terror'' they cant even get a decent image of bogeyman cave-dweller Bin Laden to spread their propaganda!
And if only the TV-'news' media was half as critical, investigative & analytical of the US govt. sponsored 9-11 false flag terror event.
Whoops, almost forgot - corporate media's "job" & function is to run interference, distraction. Keep us separated, divided, instill more fear uncertainty & doubt - as the true criminals get away with their world-***** lies, tricks, deceit & murder on the grandest of scales. And we the people remain divided, fighting over non-issues such as "left vs. right" "republican vs. democrat"..United we stand, divided we fall.
"Pay your respect to the vultures, for they are your future." - Ogrady, on 10/17/2007, -0/+15I don't know why the ruling elite bother with their propaganda. As Stalin said: Those who cast the Votes, they decide nothing. Those who count the votes, they decide everything. And we're all aware of who counts the votes here. The open bias and favoritism in the so-called 'debates' exhibited by the MSM is so brazen that even a half-wit must notice. If Paul continues to succeed, I'm afraid he may have a plane crash in his future.
- xdream, on 10/16/2007, -0/+7Actually, that won't happen. He's been saying the same thing for 25 years, so the thugs in office have been ignoring them. However, since paul ride commercial, that would be quite the event. And finally, if anything happens to President Paul, the ***** will hit the proverbial fan.
- NativeVeteran70, on 10/16/2007, -1/+3I came across this article and I'm not sure how true it is but is sounds good. Check it out - Chinese Secret Society Challenges Illuminati to protect Ron Paul... http://www.woyano.com/view/5524/Chinese-Secret-Soc ...
- xdream, on 10/16/2007, -0/+7Actually, that won't happen. He's been saying the same thing for 25 years, so the thugs in office have been ignoring them. However, since paul ride commercial, that would be quite the event. And finally, if anything happens to President Paul, the ***** will hit the proverbial fan.
- readthis, on 10/17/2007, -0/+12Does Ruppert Murdock decide who the next president of the United States will be or do we the people? It is time to tell the world who the real sinister traitor is.
- lisas2dope, on 10/16/2007, -0/+8This could be considered slander! Do they have proof ot their claims? Or do they just make this up to defame the good name of Dr. Paul? If so, they could be sued for enormous amounts!
- NativeVeteran70, on 10/16/2007, -0/+6Both gloves are off and the filtered news media, current administration and its gang are getting worried. It means only one thing. Lets do a knee to the face, left hook, right upper cut, take it to the ground and perform a rear naked choke - make the f*$kers Tap ! Ron Paul Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- paralentor, on 10/14/2007, -0/+6OMG the scripted hand over from Bush to Clinton ,Clinton to Bush ,Bush to Clinton, Clinton to Bush, Bush to Clinton, Clinton to Bush is in jeopardy. Quick Bilderbergs do something get Rupert to slander and debase the legitimate grassroots candidate. So confident he is after his hostile take over of WSJ.
- Bulldoglaw, on 10/14/2007, -1/+1Well if it's just a conspiracy then they have nothing to worry about. Right?
- arasiriel, on 10/16/2007, -0/+6I guess Ron Paul's camp has also broke into the homes around here who have "Ron Paul Revolution!" taped up in their windows so passer-bys can see them. They must have also have the indiviuals supporting him being held inside their homes so they can't remove the signs from their yards. Some people are just too full of crap for their own good.
- yourchilidog, on 10/16/2007, -0/+5uh the comments about diebold machines and vote counters deciding elections has got me thinking...........HOW DO I BECOME AN ELECTION OBSERVER in my state? I must do some research and fast.
we must be at the ready to catch voter fraud across the nation this season. - simjamlmx, on 10/16/2007, -0/+8how does it go? first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, and then you win? i think ron paul has already won but it'd be nice to see an american president us britons can respect for once!
- voytechs, on 10/16/2007, -0/+8Good, these type of baseless accusations actually work in our favor. They will expose Dr. Paul even more. Anyone with a half a brain can see these are lies.
- wbfree, on 10/16/2007, -0/+7The media is really exposing themselves more then ever now. Ron Paul is just the tip of the iceberg. Even my wife questioned one of our local radio guys that had Giuliani (sp? whatever) on. He then said we're going to invite everyone republicans democrats and even the crazies... who is it, oh yeah Ron Paul. My wife has seen me talk about him for a couple years and was dumbfounded that a radio personality would refer to him as a crazy. She believes in the MSM wholeheartedly. She's even starting to see the bigger picture of this corporate matrix.
- gromano, on 10/16/2007, -0/+7I give a damn what they say about Ron Paul--I am voting for him. I have been a victim of gang stalking and electromagnetic harassment for several years now and a representative backing Ron Paul has and is doing everything in his power to help free the American people from these covert groups who use mind control to gain power. Freedom is where it is at! Restoration of this country is imperative to its and our survival. Vote Ron Paul for President!
- johndoenumber2, on 10/14/2007, -0/+4The article in question was posted by a Fred Head. The site allows for an easy sign up to post news articles. I read about it in the fred head message board last night.
- Kangalanatolian, on 10/14/2007, -0/+2While I am well aware that this entire story is fake, as admitted by the American who planted it in the Austrailian press, it does not lessen the true groundswell of support for Ron Paul in America today.
- greenback1, on 10/16/2007, -0/+1Oh boy, these Conspiracy Theorists with their wild claims about man made global warming are wackos. I consider them nearly as stupid as those others who believe the Official 911 Conspiracy Theory about 19 sheep herders with box cutters successfully carrying out attacks against the mighty US military. Oh boy they're coming out of the woodwork. I bet it's a good time to buy aluminum or tin, the demand and price will certainly rise considering they all wear tin-foil hats.
- nathangsm, on 10/20/2007, -0/+0Ron Paul might actually make me vote Republican, can you imagine?
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