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Philadephia Inquirer: Why Sen. Obama Might Take Pennsylvania

philly.com — The demographics suggest Obama does not need to win even most of the state's 67 counties, but rather concentrate winning 14 of them, what Ed Rendell did to become governor. Such demographics, plus upswing in new registrations, show PA is less like Ohio than pundits assert. PA is full of people who make up their own minds. And we can surprise you.

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  • Azulita360, on 04/21/2008, -8/+84A win in Pennsylvania would be amazing. We could actually start to think about the white house if we could just win and get her out of the race.
    • tcbishop12, on 04/21/2008, -3/+27And it would be about time the Democratic party decided to do just that. Obama hasd a tremendous message of hope that Mrs. Clinton - even yesterday - called "Whoop de Doo". Sen Clinton needs to bow out, and if she won't, we voters must show her the door
      • smoothdogg00, on 04/21/2008, -15/+2Obama and his followers throw the term "hope" around like we actually have a need for it. What the hell do we need hope for at this point? You people don't even know how good we have it here. Our gas prices are finally equal to the rest of the world. We've been spoiled for years. Oh, the economy? Maybe we shouldn't have been borrowing so much and been saving a little more instead, like the people of almost ALL other countries.

        I "HOPE" Obama doesn't win this race.
        • goomba323, on 04/21/2008, -1/+5Our gas prices are finally equal to the rest of the world = FAIL. Thank you so much for making an uneducated comment before asserting that you hope Obama doesn't win the race. Being an Obama supporter myself, I wouldn't want to be associated with your miseducation and ignorance.
    • Asvetic, on 04/21/2008, -1/+18She's run out of original content and all her sound bites are deconstructing jabs at whatever Obama said the day before. Sounds like she's on the ropes, it's only a matter of time till she goes down for good.

      PA Residents, get out and vote for OBAMA tomorrow!
      • nbcaffeine, on 04/21/2008, -0/+8OK, I will. Not because of you, but because that's what I was going to do anyway.
    • chanop, on 04/21/2008, -4/+10Let's face the reality of it, he won't win PA. He even says he won't win PA. He just wants to keep it close, which he's done an amazing job at lowering the point lead.
      • MikeCP, on 04/21/2008, -2/+3You're right. He definitely will lose PA, and probably by a lot more than most Digg users think.
        People like to say that polls don't matter, and I usually agree, but check out Survey USA's polling record throughout these primaries. They've been excellent. Their last poll put Clinton up 14 I think, which is definitely down from 20+ a month and a half ago, so its a good step, but he's going to lose PA by a sizable margin.
    • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -20/+1Your Day Dreaming Dude. Hillary isn't going anywhere. This is going to be a Blow-Out. The GE will be 47 or 48 States for McCain. BIG LOSER for all DEMS! You have 2 losers running a close race. No one wants either of them or it would be over already.
      • jdenzer, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3You forgot to put double quotes around your comment and site it Rush Limbaugh
    • orangedude, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4What the *****? Clinton uses Osama Bin Laden and Pearl Harbour to invoke fear into voters for her latest TV ad. Absolutely disgusting..

      http://thepage.time.com/2008/04/21/clinton-up-with ...
    • logicet, on 04/22/2008, -2/+1Does anyone even know what a delegate is? Popular vote in PA does not matter.
      • YourDoom123, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1popular vote is what determines who "wins" a state according to the media. That's why Texas is still under Clinton's column.
  • bluevillage, on 04/21/2008, -3/+53Add to all the new registrants & part-switchers all the young people who have no landlines and so haven't been polled.
    • kdawg1012, on 04/21/2008, -2/+20Good point about the cell phones (it's the only phone I have - even if I am 62 LOL)
      • nbcaffeine, on 04/21/2008, -7/+3"LOL"? Are you 62 hours old?
      • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -13/+2Your 62 and you say LOL ??? LIAR! Maybe 26, more like 16. You can't even vote you fool.
      • TimmyGUNZ, on 04/21/2008, -6/+2You're 62? Who turns your computer on for you? :
    • HenvY, on 04/21/2008, -1/+12Pew: When data from both samples(of cell phone users) are combined and weighted to match the U.S. population on key demographic measures, the results are virtually identical to those from the landline survey alone. Across more than 100 political and attitudinal questions on the surveys, including cell phone interviews does not change the results by more than two percentage points in the vast majority of comparisons, and in only one comparison is the difference as large as 4 points.
      http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_polls_sk ...
    • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -13/+0You fool. All part-switchers are for this vote only. They will go back before Nov. but they don't have to. When you Vote in the GE they don't ask if your a Dem or Rep. This is a Giant scam and most of these people will vote Hillary. Operation Chaos and you know it. I love it. GO HILLARY "for four more Months" McCain has already Won. Get use to hearing "President John McCain", because you will hear it for four more years. Don't forget White Men Decide elections. Every time. They Vote for who they like the most. Not who they hate the most.
    • lester1024, on 04/21/2008, -10/+0Doesn't matter, all the young people without landlines won't show up to vote anyway. It's probably more accurate to only poll the ones with landlines, since they would more likely show up to vote.
      • blackcloud333, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Seriously, what is your reasoning with that? I think it would be very funny...err, informative if you gave a detailed explanation of the your land-line voting demographic.
        • lester1024, on 04/21/2008, -4/+0uhm, most 18+yo people without landlines only have cell phones. They will be to lazy to go vote. Thats my reasoning. Most people that still actually have a landline are probably older people that will vote. If they poll 18-23yo Britney on her celly and ask her who she is voting for, she will say Obama. But Britney can't make it to the voting center because she will sleep in till 11 then go to the beach.

          I don't think it's any secret that young people don't vote. so, go VOTE OR DIE p-diddy!
        • darthdurden, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4I am 24 and only have a cell phone. My girlfriend is 22 and only has a cell phone. We both plan on voting for Obama tomorrow. I see no reason to get a land line, it would cost me an extra $20-$30 a month for something I already have with less functionality.
    • diggdiggerid, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3Uh....that's what the Ron Paul people were saying before reality hit them in the face and pummeled them into submission.
  • bsdboy, on 04/21/2008, -5/+64Because he is the better candidate?
    • tcbishop12, on 04/21/2008, -4/+15By far and away Obama is the better person, if you look at character, which is the number 1 determining factor in my book. Truthfulness, honesty, intelligence, wit, sincerity, humilty and kindness describe Obama, while arrogance, cleverness, selk-seeking, dishonest, two-faced, backstabbing, vindictive, power grabbing and manipulative describe -- as a matter of public record -- Mrs. Clinton. There is a light years difference between the two candidates on the issue of character: Obama is a person of great character, and Mrs. Clinton, sadly, is not.
      • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -12/+0One only hates the Country a little and the other hates it more. That's great.
    • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -16/+1Hillary said, "You know more terrorist than I do." and Obama said, "No, You know more terrorist than I do." Hillary said, "You hang out with more terrorist than I do." and Obama said, "No, You hang out with more terrorist than I do." Hillary said, "You talk to terrorist and he is your Friend." and Obama said, "You let more terrorist go than I have."

      At least Senator McCain wants to kill the terrorist. WAKE UP FOOLS!
  • FemaCampBoy, on 04/21/2008, -25/+11the media/oligarchs won't let it happen. they have already planned the outcome and hillary will win. yes.. it is all fixed. they want this thing going to the convention. they want chaos so they can bring in their solution.
    • tcbishop12, on 04/21/2008, -6/+4I hope you are wrong.
    • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -4/+17I suspect he's being a pussy. It's much easier to wear a tinfoil hat than actually do something.
      • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -2/+0Are you looking in the Mirror? The Hats on you.
      • FemaCampBoy, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1gosh.. look who won.. hillary by 10%.. there's a FKN SHOCKER!!!! duh.. this is wwf. wake up peasants.
    • arkuden, on 04/21/2008, -7/+3I know you are right but I pray you are wrong.
    • kipmartin, on 04/21/2008, -1/+6then why did 'they' let him get this far?
      • RRJackson, on 04/21/2008, -5/+2The advertising revenue. And to get as many people involved as possible so it would be easier to disenfranchise them all at once.
        • Kyan, on 04/21/2008, -1/+2b/c it's sooo much harder to disenfranchise the people not involved and not paying attention. Not.
      • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -4/+1Money FOOL! McCains already Won.
      • FemaCampBoy, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1oh.. obama will beat hillary in the delegate finals.. but not enough for the nomination. thats when they bring Gore in to save the day. its all staged peasants.
    • HonestAbe, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1Or he'll win and be assassinated. :'(
  • smackjack, on 04/21/2008, -2/+31People need to remember that it is very possible to win only three counties and carry the state. Obama just needs to win Philadelphia and two other larger counties.
    • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -2/+13I'd say odds are good that he's got Phillie.
    • johnpaul191, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4That's true... if you look at the last presidential elections, PA was "blue". If you look at the county breakdowns the only blue was around Philly, Pittsburgh and maybe Harrisburg (state capitol). Those counties just have dense population compared to the more rural parts of the state.
      I assume NY is kind of the same with NYC area versus the upstate areas.
    • jdotter, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4He'll win Philly and probably even 2 or 3 of the collar counties, heck he might even pull off a razor thin win in Lehigh or Northampton county. The problem is he probably can't get the margins up enough to pull off an outright win. In between Philly and Pittsburgh you have Alabama and they won't be giving him much love and he's not going to get much help from the Pittsburgh region either. The areas he is going to win outside of Philly are going to be 55-45 if he's lucky not the 80-20 he would need to blunt the rest of the state going for Hillary. I'm working hard here for Barack but I'm being realistic, the demographics just don't work for him statewide and when you're not sure who to vote for you're going to choose the known quantity if you decide to vote. In this case it's the Clinton brand that will decide the outcome. Will enough people vote Hillary in spite of not liking her just because they know her and Bill better? Will they show up and vote? Do they just stay home? That's the question for the 6-8% undecided voters here in PA.
    • logicet, on 04/22/2008, -3/+1Does anyone even know what a delegate is? Popular vote does not matter in PA.
  • tvfilm, on 04/21/2008, -48/+8OH MY GOD< obama will win PA, I need something to make me feel happy

    i will create news stories and polls .

    Im so nervous, I need to be assured my messiah gets into the white house .

    Oh my god, this is a great article. Thank you paid off biased media.

    Thank you

    I can sleep better.

    Oh, god, Obama better win I dont care all the wrong things he has done, I just want him to win and lose to McCain.

    I just want her to beat t he bitch, *****, whore, Billary, she is a *****. I hate her.

    Oh my god, Im so nervous. I hope Obama wins PA and we can finally tell the bitch to sit down.

    Ok gotta go call my mom, talk to you guys later.

    Digg rules!
    • Shiftgood, on 04/21/2008, -1/+9Is this supposed to be examples of typical comments you might find on this thread? I mean, if it is .. i kinda get it.. But they arent very creative. It kinda shows a lack of intelligence on your part.
    • SzaszMan, on 04/21/2008, -1/+6Do you think you've impressed anyone?
    • didiman, on 04/21/2008, -9/+1sad, but true
    • jontalisman, on 04/21/2008, -9/+1Lmao!
  • Bagos1, on 04/21/2008, -25/+5Sure...vote for more welfare Moms.
    • kipmartin, on 04/21/2008, -0/+8im sure your mom could use the money.
    • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -0/+63 trillion pissed away on a war that it took 6 years for half the country to see the fallacy of and we're still talking about welfare?
    • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -1/+0Hillary said, "You know more terrorist than I do." and Obama said, "No, You know more terrorist than I do."
      Hillary said, "You hang out with more terrorist than I do." and Obama said, "No, You hang out with more terrorist than I do."
      Hillary said, "You talk to terrorist and he is your Friend." and Obama said, "You let more terrorist go than I have."
      At least Senator McCain wants to kill the terrorist. WAKE UP FOOLS!
  • suzywang3000, on 04/21/2008, -41/+3Amazon review by Robert D Steele (#32 on Amazon reviewers)



    of 9 people found the following review helpful:

    Venomous, Provocative, Frightening, & Credible, April 15, 2008

    Edit of 18 Apr 08: I do not believe the polls from the major "system" players--I think they are being manipulated as this book's message gets out, along with the Weatherman pal story. May the truth come forth.

    In the context of all that I know and have read, this book shocked me into realizing that the author may well be correct, and that Senator Obama and his wife, as intelligent and well-intentioned as they may be, are nothing more than puppets to a Trilateral Commission/Federal Reserve mafia.

    I say this as someone who believed in the potential of this candidate, but who subsequently found that his campaign staff, his senior political advisor, and even Oprah Winfrey, are so enthralled with the prospects of an easy engineered win (money talks), that they are refusing to engage with or listen to Libertarians, Greens, Reforms, Naderites, or Independents. They refuse to mention the word "transpartisan" that outs the lie of bipartisanship ("keep the two-party spoils system alive, continue to exclude Independents and others from all debates"), they refuse to address the need for Electoral Reform and the naming of a transpartisan cabinet in advance of the election, and they refuse to create much less publish any semblance of a balanced budget, without which all of their promises are empty (as well as often mis-guided). So for all of these reasons, as venomous as the author's book it, I find it credible and compelling. This book also explains why Mike Bloomberg has gone silent--others with more money than he appear to have persuaded him he could, like Bear Sterns, be punished by being bankrupted.

    MOST INTRIGUING is the manner in which the author dissects and evaluates Senator Obama in the context of who his advisors are.

    I now realize that the refusal of all three candidates to outline any kind of strategy for eradicating the ten high-level threats to mankind by harmonizing the twelve policies is deliberate--they don't HAVE a strategy, they have an agenda, and it does not include our well-being.

    Let me set the stage with two quotes from pages 178 and 179:

    "Obama is best understood as a multi-contractor puppet with hardware from the Ford Foundation and software from the Rockefeller-Trilateral-Brzezinski circles."

    "The Obama campaign has thus far been shown to represent: the Ford Foundation, the Trilateral Commission, the New York Council on Foreign Relations, the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderberger Group, Skull and Bones, the RAND Corporation, the Soros Foundation, the Rockefeller family, and the Friedmanite Chicago School of economic genocide. Obama is the Manchurian candidate groomed and indoctrinated by those financier-controlled groups. As president, Obama would impose a regime of crushing economic austerity and a new set of foreign wars far worse than what has been seen under Bush."

    I am going to highlight a few points here, and reserve the option of modifying this review after I talk to the author tonight. I want to get this down while it is fresh in my mind.

    The real kicker, the "truth-teller" that persuades me this author is on to a very important potential nightmare scenario for the USA, is the role of Zbigniew Brzezinski as the top foreign policy advisor and indeed the "maker" of both Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama.

    I have always respected Brzezinski's talents, but as I have grown older and wiser I have come to see him as nothing more than a war criminal, no better or worse than Henry Kissinger, both of them convinced that a) they know better, b) their grand strategic design demands the subversion of all who stand in their way, and c) never mind a little genocide here and there (and especially in Africa), eugenics is code for depopulating the areas we have not finished looting.

    What I see in the two political parties, both Running On Empty, is a propensity to promote sycophants and then let them do great evil "in our name" and without retribution.

    The book on Kissinger has been written: The Trial of Henry Kissinger. The book on Brzezinski remains to be written. For a taste, see Breaking the Real Axis of Evil: How to Oust the World's Last Dictators by 2025.

    I share the author's view of Brzezinski as a loose cannon with a rabid anti-Russian sentiment, and I for one will not vote for any candidate that allows Brzezinski to play with our loose nukes, or to antagonize Russia with missile defense in Poland.

    The author is quite persuasive when he discusses the manner in which Brzezinski obtained both political asylum and a lucrative complete funding package for the Chechnyan terrorist leader now granted asylum and living in splendor here in the DC area (at taxpayer expense).

    He makes it a point to observe that Brzezinski is an opponent of Third World development, wanting no more miracles such as have been achieved in Asia.

    I believe the author when he describes Senator Obama as Brzezinski's last chance, at 80, to create destabilization along the Russian western border, and to goad China into invading Siberia to the point there is a Russian-Chinese war. Thus does Brzezinski go up in flames, taking the rest of us with him.

    Other Obama advisors (less Joe Nye, who can be reasonable) are also frightening, buy and read the book for details.

    The author has several major pet rocks that get tossed around, and I summarize them here:

    1) The Clintons are the lesser evil because they have no single owner and Senator Clinton, for all her flaws and tribulations, appears to be genuinely in favor of New Deal arrangements for the working class and the vanishing middle class..

    2) The young trouble this author. He considers them ignorant, gullible, and too subject to manipulation,

    3) Fascism lurks, and one price Senator Obama may have to pay is that of his life--being assassinated early on (shortly after inauguration ostensibly by a foreign agent)so the Vice President can take over and fulfill the fascist/corporate control dream. I shake my head as I write this--if I had not lived the life I have, been part of the CIA, read all the books I have, all of this would be disreputable ranting. The book is an indictment, not a conviction, and merits attention.

    In other provocative notes the author considers Mark Penn to have been a mole into the Clinton campaign all along, and to have provided a strategy intended to fail, bolstered by fake polling that misled Senator Clinton.

    The author laments the splintering of the 9/11 Truth Movement between Kucinich and Ron Paul, and suggests that Kucinich was in grave error when he threw his delegates to Senator Obama.

    The author explores how John Edwards dominates the two major issues of the day, poverty and labor rights, and these were essentially stolen from him with "big money" we do not see behind the "little money."

    The author draws to a close warning the reader that like Jimmy Carter, Barack Obama was selected and promoted by the Trilateral Commission, and that like Jimmy Carter, he will preside over a melt-down of the US. Indeed, he draws a line from "malaise" to Mrs. Obama's discussion of "broken souls."

    The author believes that Senator Obama is being set up for a fall with the national infrastructure fund, which will be speculative and lead to a major economic setback (for the little people, the funds will do fine).

    The author believes that the mental health of the candidates for President is something that must be examined in public very carefully. He has grave doubts about both Senator Obama and Senator McCain, and while I have grave doubts about Senator Clinton's ability to listen to anyone other than her cronies, I do NOT have a single doubt at all about her sanity and seriousness of purpose.

    His draft emergency economic recovery plan covers a stop of foreclosures, raising minimum wage, Tobin Tax implementation, single-payer health care, tax relief for families, nationalization of the Federal reserve and re-regulation of banking and finance, funding infrastructure to eliminate daily auto commutes, protection of the family farm, attention to global depression, and restoration of FDR's "freedom from want."

    So there you have it. I am impressed.

    See also Someone Would Have Talked: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy and the Conspiracy to Mislead History
    An Act of State: The Execution of Martin Luther King, New and Updated Edition
    and of course all the books on the lies told to We the People regarding Viet-Nam and more recently, 9-11, Katrina, and Iraq.

    There are others. Bottom line: Government lies (both left and right) and We the People need to flush all these knaves down the toilet and start over.

    For competing visions that do not tolerate Manchurian machinations, see, among many others:

    The Tao of Democracy: Using Co-Intelligence to Create a World That Works for All
    The World Cafe: Shaping Our Futures Through Conversations That Matter
    Society's Breakthrough!: Releasing Essential Wisdom and Virtue in All the People
    How to Change the World: Social Entrepreneurs and the Power of New Ideas, Updated Edition
    The Wealth of Networks: How Social Production Transforms Markets and Freedom
    Collective Intelligence: Creating a Prosperous World at Peace
    • Nougat, on 04/21/2008, -0/+7tl; dr
    • cctoronto05, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1dude, your crazy, wtf was that diatribe?

      • suzywang3000, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1"you're"... and if you read it, you would see that it is a review of a book about Obama by the #32 ranked Amazon reviewer - I had nothing to do with writing it. Now get back to class...
  • dan21328, on 04/21/2008, -11/+5You all just like Obama's marketing graphics...

    ...as do I. Go Obama!
  • oldhick, on 04/21/2008, -11/+5Damn, I'd wait 'til tomorrow. Clinton thinks she might have an 11 point lead already in PA - http://www.drudgereport.com/flashpa.htm
    • rhabd0mancer, on 04/21/2008, -0/+10That still wouldn't be enough to significantly cut into Obama's overall lead. Also, Hillary is nearly broke. Obama has more than $40M cash on hand. Sorry, Clintonistas, but Hillary is finished.
      • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -3/+0Hillary isn't going anywhere. If she can't win she will stop Obama. Hillary 2012..... Don't you people look paste your own nose?
        McCain already won.
    • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -5/+1Old Chick, What's wrong with you? Why do you have a Dumb look on your face? Is that just how you look?
      O, Never mind. I thought you were trying to look Dumb.
      • oldhick, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Eh? I was simply providing a link to another story and my face is a problem? Give me something to work with here.
    • had3l, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1I see you are being dugg down, which makes no sense at all to me. You didn't say anything stupid and even offered a reliable link to your statements. I don't like Hillary too, but digg.com is going to die if people bury comments based not on whether information is true or relevant, but on whether they wish it was true or not.
      • Swift2, on 04/21/2008, -1/+2"Reliable" in the sense of a link the the Drudge Report, which should be boycotted -- Oh, wait. That's the source of the Obama campaign's "outrage" about Hillary supposedly giving Drudge the pictures of Obama in African garb. Why, he must be right.
        • oldhick, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1The report doesn't say she WILL win. It simply says she THINKS she'll win PA. I just though Obama fans might find it an interesting read. I realize that it didn't mention Obama being God, so digg down. :P
  • ClockworksNine, on 04/21/2008, -12/+5Buried for mis-title. Should read: "Why Sen. Obama WILL Take Pennsylvania"
    Note: I didn't actually bury it.
    • fagalagolopolis, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Wish I could say the same for you.
  • LOLIGATOR, on 04/21/2008, -3/+16i go to drexel university (in philly) and they have really been pushing students to register and vote. hopefully this gets more people out and obama some votes.
    • chanop, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1isn't it too late to register for tomorrow's election?
      • nbcaffeine, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Yes. March 24th was the deadline.
  • kettlehead, on 04/21/2008, -3/+27Stop trying to raise expectations. Aiming our sights to high for Penn will only dishearten people when reality hits. Anything closer than a 10 point loss is as good as a win at this point.
    • dan.stryker, on 04/21/2008, -12/+1Wow, 10 point loss is actually a win! What logic...
      • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3It is logic. Hill's been framing PA as some kind of mandate for months and we're expecting a string of victories afterwards.
      • kettlehead, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3If she doesn't win by a gigantic margin, the possibility of her making up the numbers gets even slimmer. So yes; it's quite accurate.
    • pyronik, on 04/21/2008, -18/+2who need reality ... you have your lord and savior Obama he will just will it so with he's secret power...CHANGE
      • kettlehead, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3I'm an Obama supporter, but don't mistake me for a fanboy. The man's still a politician, and holds positions that I disagree with. He was my 4th choice out of all the candidates that started off in the primary. The other two remaining just aren't acceptable to me by any stretch of the imagination.
  • CletusTSJY, on 04/21/2008, -3/+6Yeah good luck with that.
  • ryan850, on 04/21/2008, -3/+12I think the title should be 'Why the hell shouldn't senator Obama take pennsylvania when the only other choice is a evil power hungry do-whatever-it-takes to win even if it means hurting our only chances of not having another bush-like presidency. Also she scares children".... ah nevermind... my title might be too long and convoluted.
  • MonumentMan, on 04/21/2008, -2/+13a win in Pennsylvania would force Hillary out of the race.

    but she will win PA, and she will stay in to the bitter end.
    • KidDynamo0, on 04/21/2008, -0/+5Bitter...BITTER...you haven't seen Hillary BITTER...ok, yes you have...she is terrible.
    • littlequeenie, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1On Larry King last night, she said no matter what, she is in it till the end. God, I hope Obama pulls this off. PLEASE PA, vote Obama today!
  • laserblazer, on 04/21/2008, -5/+19John McCain will need to invite Ms. Clinton to his coronation ceremony. She's been, hands down, his biggest contributor.

    John McCain and Hillary, covering the bases for Whitey.
  • bingobongony, on 04/21/2008, -12/+2Sounds a lot like what was being said a month and a half ago about Texas andOhio. (And before anyone embarrasses themselves by sayingthat Obama won more delegates from Texas, stop right there. Pennsylvania doesn't have the ridiculously stupid primary/caucus system that Texas does.)
    • 47f0, on 04/21/2008, -1/+8Well, bingobungle, the bottom line in the primaries is delegates - and Obama took the delegates in TX. You, on the other hand, have to contend with the popular digg vote, which as of now is so far sub-zero that it may actually have done an unsigned int wrap. In short, you have the digg credibility of your average flatworm, or other small muck-sucking invertebrate.
      • bingobongony, on 04/21/2008, -6/+2The bottom line is that that cannot happen in Pennsylkvania since they don't have a really ***** up system. So if anyone tries to point out that they were not wrong they would be stupid.

        Even OBAMA knows he has no chance of winning PA. He said it publicly.

        I also love the fact that your life is so devoid of human interaction that you think popualrity of Digg ***** dot com is something to strive for. Do you not realize that peopel like youa re LAUGHED at. By everyone. You ate your lunch in the bathroom in high school because no one would let you sit at their table. If my lie were like yours, I would have killed myself long ago. And don't say you haven't thought about it.
  • xt0xicx, on 04/21/2008, -5/+75Hillary's Resume of Experience
    1) I Served on the Board of UNION HATING Wal-Mart
    But I am Pro Union.
    2) I voted for the war in Iraq
    But I am against Iraq War
    3) I Voted for Kyle-Lieberman to extend the war to Iran
    But I will bring soldiers back home in 60 days
    4) I will provide universal health insurance
    But I will force you to buy it to boost insurance company's profits.
    5) I Supported NAFTA
    But now I oppose NAFTA
    6) I am a strong woman and a fighter
    But I cry and complain when I don't win
    7) I can stand the republican heat
    But I cannot stand the Democratic heat
    8) I am vetted and experienced
    But I have no clue how to run a presidential campaign.
    9) I hate bush
    But I try to copy his politics of fear and division
    10) I will be fine because I am on both sides of the issues
    But the question is will you be fine?

    Obama 08
    • bingobongony, on 04/21/2008, -23/+3You do FAR more harm than good to Obama's campaign.
    • rhabd0mancer, on 04/21/2008, -0/+85a) I am against the Colombia Free Trade Agreement
      but my husband and my top campaign adviser are actively lobbying for it.
      • Swift2, on 04/21/2008, -2/+1So there's only one possible opinion on that? Or are you saying that Hillary should divorce her husband and have her campaign adviser beheaded? Oh, right, then you could say she was a bitch.
        • cashman57, on 04/22/2008, -0/+2If she didn't divorce him after a hundred affairs why would she divorce him now?
    • nycmac247, on 04/21/2008, -7/+2Obama = CFR
      • petrodollar, on 04/21/2008, -1/+2CFR = good
        • cashman57, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1If you like wars CFR is good.
          If you want peace, CFR is not good.
    • jackalsclaw, on 04/21/2008, -1/+2union politics suck. they help in some cases but sometimes they can destroy entire industry's by refusing to change. look at the US steel industry, the workers made such money that no one could stay in business and now the union members don't have jobs at all .
  • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -13/+1White Men decide most elections. It's not who White Men hate the most. It's who White Men like the most.
    • jdotter, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1You may be right about white men deciding elections but I think more often than not they vote on who they hate the most. You really believe they liked GW Bush more than they hated Gore and Kerry? Please. Raise as many BS and false claims about a candidate as possible and appeal to ones inner hate and people will vote however you want. That's how Republicans always win. They can't govern but they know how to win elections.
  • bingobongony, on 04/21/2008, -11/+4I'd also like to point out the similarity between artciels like this and ones that we saw in January that said "Ron Paul could win New Hampshire"
  • Picer, on 04/21/2008, -1/+7I hope Obama wins, but if he loses he will lose by a narrow margin
  • z3nbrain, on 04/21/2008, -1/+9I think, too, that the polls being used aren't taking into account the massive 18-25 year old group who are massively in favor of Obama. Just as an example, Penn State (my college) registered over 5000 new voters for this election. Now, that may not seem significant, but you know... there are other schools out there registering, and many colleges are making sure their students are able to vote (absentee ballots, voter vans to take students to polling places, etc). If college students across PA get out and vote, I think the Clintons will be surprised at the outcome of this election.
    • 47f0, on 04/21/2008, -1/+2Bingo - will the under-thirties actually vote? TX would have been both an electoral and caucus win if they had - but they didn't - they only made up 16% of the voters. Hopefully the under-thirty Pennsylvanians are less apathetic.... VOTE DAMMIT!
      • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -4/+0Kids are always unreliable. Nothing will change that. Not even BO. Sorry. Kids SUCK! As they register and never Vote. Really bad in Nov. in the GE!
        Most people Love our Country. This Man? Will never win. I could take him. I never heard someone talk so much and not say anything. I thought sick Willie was good at it, but BO puts sick Willie to shame on the whole Bull Sh*tting thing. McCain has already won. One more thing. If BO was so Great why isn't he going to Kick A** Tuesday? Come on be honest with yourself. If he was Great he would KILL Hillary in the Morning.
    • trp5023, on 04/21/2008, -1/+2WE ARE!!!!

      Way to go PSU! The Students for Obama group registered approx 7k new voters, about 5k were dems! They changed Centre County from red to blue for the first time in decades!
  • rsek, on 04/21/2008, -2/+11 - 10) Because he is telling the truth.
  • djdigital, on 04/21/2008, -1/+7I will be out Voting tomorrow....for Obama!
  • headzoo, on 04/21/2008, -1/+11I live in an old PA steel mill town, where all the steel working jobs dried up a long time ago. You only have to spend 30 minutes sitting in the local barbershop listening to all the old men (and young men) talking about the state of things today, and you'd know that people around here are bitter. They're also completely sick of way things have been going in the local and federal government.
    So Obama _just might_ resonate with the voters here in PA. As much as Clinton and the media have been demonizing him for being elitist, he really did hit the nail right on the head, and I'm sure it woke up a few people.
    • JointVenture, on 04/21/2008, -7/+1You forgot to ask them what they think about Obama, and a welfare state.

      • jackalsclaw, on 04/21/2008, -0/+5welfare state? is that suppose to be a scary word to make the idea of a government that helps it's poorest people a bad idea?
        • JointVenture, on 04/21/2008, -2/+1*****.

          Ask anyone who's bright what WELFARE does to an individual.

          Wake the ***** up, if a parent continues to support a kid whos ***** up does the kid stop ***** up?
          • jackalsclaw, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1parents should let their kids die if they can't support themselves?
        • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1I'm going to guess your parents were overly supportive.
  • RRJackson, on 04/21/2008, -23/+1Obama's a lot more likely to get lynched in Pennsylvania than to win their primary. "Clench yer jaw, boy, and mebbe the rope wun't snap yer head clean off like it did with Saddam..."
    • 47f0, on 04/21/2008, -1/+10Well RR, you racist prick, you finally crossed a line with me. It's one thing to be a spineless drooling shill, it's quite another to suggest lynching. At that point you stop being an entertaining lap-dog, and become nothing more than a yapping bigot, leaving your turds all over digg. Adios.
      • absurdist, on 04/21/2008, -1/+7You didn't know that the RR stands for Republican Racist?
      • RRJackson, on 04/21/2008, -5/+1Did I suggest lynching? Or did I point out that it was more likely in Pennsylvania than a win? Knees jerk much?
      • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4And you would give Obama flack for overgeneralizing? Nah, dude, you were practically fantasizing about it. I've been digging for months now and that's the first offensive report I've made.
        • RRJackson, on 04/22/2008, -3/+1Kinda funny to make one now when it's obvious I was making a commentary about the rural nature of Pennsylvania.
          • karagekun, on 04/22/2008, -1/+3oh, so who's the "elitist" now bitch?
          • RRJackson, on 04/22/2008, -3/+1I've always been elitist, bitch.
          • papipablo, on 04/22/2008, -1/+3RR I'm not sure being a white supremacist is the same as being an elitist.
          • RRJackson, on 04/22/2008, -3/+1And it's obvious you can't tell the difference. It's OK. The adults in the room will explain it to you.
    • jackalsclaw, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4all states have assholes. lets hope assholes < smart people in pennsylvania
    • petrodollar, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4Thanks for lending credence to Jeremiah Wright's statements about America!
      • RRJackson, on 04/21/2008, -5/+1Anything anti-American seems acceptable when you already hate America.
        • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4I thought that was a response to yourself by somebody else.
        • petrodollar, on 04/22/2008, -2/+1I guess I'll take your word for it.
    • papipablo, on 04/22/2008, -1/+3Ah RR"s racist colors show once more. If you spent as much time doing something productive as you do spouting hate on Digg, maybe you wouldn't still be living in your mother's house.
      • RRJackson, on 04/22/2008, -3/+1There come more of the personal attacks from someone who can't argue any other way. And you know I have a place in California. I'm just staying with my mother in Florida right now because she's been hospitalized recently.
        • karagekun, on 04/22/2008, -1/+2then you should know first hand about the costs of medical care in this country..and if your mother gets better(which i hope she does, im not sure of her condition), you can see her premium raised because she is now a liability to her insurance company. and then you can come on digg and tell us all about the evils of "socialized medicine"
          • RRJackson, on 04/22/2008, -4/+1My mom's 87 years old and suffers from pulmonary fibrosis because she's been smoking since the 30's. I just got her out of the hospital two weeks ago and she's already smoking again. No way to stop her, apparently. She used to build land mines for the military, so she's covered by the VA.
          • petrodollar, on 04/22/2008, -1/+4In short, RRJackson's mom brought her disease on herself but has her medical expenses covered because she can suck off the government teat, but the rest of America is undeserving of such luxury because they didn't plug enough wires into enough sockets in the right factory assembly line.

            In other words, RRJackson feels comfortable telling people with no health coverage to go ***** themselves while his 87 year-old mom gets taken care of on the taxpayers' nickle.

            And yet he still has the nerve to accuse others of "hating america."
          • papipablo, on 04/22/2008, -1/+2I find it amusing that the man making racist comments expects people to care about his supposedly dying mother. It's pretty obvious he leaves these racist comments around Digg as a ways of getting attention, so he can pour his soul out to strangers. Get a shrink and please get back on your meds.
          • RRJackson, on 04/23/2008, -2/+1Said an anonymous stalker who replies to almost everything I post on Digg.
        • petrodollar, on 04/22/2008, -1/+2Next time maybe you can show her how to tie a proper noose so she get's it right.
  • hokie47, on 04/21/2008, -12/+3There is no way Obama is going to win Pennsylvania. I like the guy but there is no way he is going to win Pennsylvania. There will be a long drawn out battle and Obama will finally win the democratic nomination then he will lose to McCain in November.
    Digg me down but this is what I think will happen.
    • jackalsclaw, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3McCain is going to lose because he is going to be defending his support of bush
    • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -0/+0How dare you tell the truth and what you believe. You no good Mother F** KER!
    • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1I dugg back up because the buries were unreasonable but you didn't really say why you believe this.
  • vanguardanon, on 04/21/2008, -0/+9Independents can not vote in PA. That makes Obama's fight very difficult. Having said that, if he is withing 7% of her the math is going to get really ridiculous for Hillary. NC will most likely end her run.
  • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -13/+0Hillary said, "You know more terrorist than I do." and Obama said, "No, You know more terrorist than I do."
    Hillary said, "You hang out with more terrorist than I do." and Obama said, "No, You hang out with more terrorist than I do."
    Hillary said, "You talk to terrorist and he is your Friend." and Obama said, "You let more terrorist go than I have."
    At least Senator McCain wants to kill the terrorist. WAKE UP FOOLS!
    • AaronCo, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Ya, by becoming one of them.
    • jackalsclaw, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1obama does not have any problem killing terrorists, i think he just wants to do it the way that doesn't kill thousands of civilians and create more terrorists.
    • emalen, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1what?
    • centerblack, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Hey you did a better job formatting the comment this time, good job.
    • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Does he speak English as a first language or is he cutting and pasting "terrorist" after he forgot the "s" for the plural form because he's new to this whole "typing" thing?
  • longat, on 04/21/2008, -0/+5I will be surprised, happy but surprised if Obama wins. The facts are that Hillary supports (while not represented on Digg) are many especially among the old, who always vote. My main hope is he can be within 10 points, and if he is, then yes, it is a victory. A battle is not a war, and a victory is not declared because the enemy has stopped fighting today, but rather agrees with your perspective.
  • Swift2, on 04/21/2008, -2/+1All you neophytes should know that the Inquirer is very much a pro-Obama paper, so this is kind of how they see it.
  • cjnkns, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3As much as I would love for Obama to take it - I really don't' think that will happen
  • yojiffyskippy, on 04/21/2008, -11/+2PLEASE STOP HOLDING UP THOSE CREEPY OBAMA POSTERS AND I'LL STOP YELLING! They give me cold chills. Bbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
  • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -0/+5It's a reasonable "might" but I'm content to settle for a single digit loss. I certainly think Obama-supporter enthusiasm is at a higher level, which could tip the scales and the ad campaign seems likely to have an effect of a percentage point or two since the last poll.

    In any case, it seems highly dubious that Hillary's going to get the double-digit mandate she was hoping for a month ago.
  • thorlax, on 04/21/2008, -0/+8I just want her to go away. My state(Ohio) failed me yet again, go PA!
    • Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Don't feel too bad. I've started using Ohio to gauge my own choice of candidates. If I agree with Ohio I must be missing something.
  • DEIx15x8, on 04/21/2008, -6/+1So Obama wants to pull a Hillary and now that's the right thing to do?
  • ccfoo242, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Not getting any hopes up. Just hoping for a less than 10 pt. loss.
  • dreesemonkey, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3*Might* win? Why the crap did I have to wade through all the "obama leads straw-polls by # of units of measure" for the last month?

    In other news, my fiance's aunt got 4 calls on Saturday to persuade her to vote for Hillary, she was not pleased. (PS I live in PA)
  • designer, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4Won't happen. The "Operation Chaos" voters will ensure a Clinton win.
  • markgl, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3he's gonna lose.
  • gregnorc, on 04/21/2008, -1/+10I'm in the suburbs of Pittsburgh right now... I've seen a few Obama signs, but not any Hillary signs in my neighborhood. Most people I talk to plan to vote for Obama. I myself am going to be voting for Obama. There's a huge rally downtown later toinight - my friends who go to the university where it's being held have told me to show up at least 2 hours early to get a seat, as the building "only" holds 12,000 people.

    In short, it would not surprise me if Obama takes PA. He has Pittsburgh. From what relatives say, he has philly. And here's a fact not many realize: Way more than 50% or PA voters are in Philly, Harrisburgh, and Pittsburgh. The country people do not make a huge portion of the voting population, so even if they are offended by Obama's comments (which I can assure you they aren't), it doesn't really matter.
  • WebWizard, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3Yes We Can!
    • AlanGreenGore, on 04/21/2008, -3/+0What? Vote for a Terrorist? I HOPE you CHANGE your underpants today. Michelle too! Pewwwee.
  • gthrank, on 04/21/2008, -1/+2I am full of hope.
  • celica18gt, on 04/21/2008, -1/+0Yes PA.. You Can!
  • Schmapdi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1I'm thinking he will be able to keep it very close, closer than expected - but I'm just not optimistic enough to say he'll eek out a win. I'm thinking the spread will be sub 7 points though, which is pretty good when you consider a) what a huge lead Clinton had up until a few weeks ago, and b) the big demographic advatanges she has there. And I bet delegate wise it's even closer than pop. vote.
  • Ransom13, on 04/22/2008, -1/+2Philly resident here wishing us all a successful tally tomorrow! Obama can win this!
  • Codee, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1The way Obama closed that 20 point gap, he's already a winner in my book. Hillary knows this too.
  • whalt, on 04/22/2008, -0/+1Don't get your hopes up for an outright win. Considering Hillary's huge lead in the polls just a few weeks ago, keeping her under ten points will be impressive enough and will keep her delegate pickup low. Unfortunately, the mainstream media will focus too much on any "win" by Clinton even if it has an insignificant effect on the delegate math or the popular vote margin. She needs a huge blowout to get back in the race but anything over 50% will allow her to maintain the farce that her campaign has become.
  • gkiltz, on 04/22/2008, -0/+0It's actually not as complicated as that!
    Pollsters, incapable of polling the entire population at any one time, must, by definition, assume certain things in determining what is a representative sampling. The prevailing standard is "likely voters." As far as I can tell the biggest factor in determining who is and is not a likely voter is, "Who voted in the last election?"
    When that standard is applied, Obama has built much of his support nationally on the "unlikely voter" and continues to do so. Whether or not Obama can win, both in Pennsylvainia, and Nationally, in the fall has little to do with the voters who voted in the last election, and everything to do with getting those "unlikely voters" to the polls. If he can do that, he'll be the next president, if he can't John McCain will be the next president!
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