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Obama Ayers Ad Responds To McCain Attack (VIDEO)
huffingtonpost.com — Barack Obama has responded to the ad tying him to Weatherman William Ayers with an ad of his own. "With all our problems, why is John McCain talking about the sixties, trying to link Barack Obama to radical Bill Ayers?" it says. The ad was put out by an independent group, but McCain's campaign has tried to use Obama's connection to Ayers.
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- tcbishop12, on 08/25/2008, -12/+51No wonder McCain thinks you're only rich at five million. Look at the billionaire company he keeps. Billionaires can saturate the media market with lies. A lesson in "how to buy the presidency" so you don't have to pay your fair share of taxes.
OK. We're all supposed to believe Ayers is still the bomb-throwing radical he was in the 1960s, rather than the respected member of the Chicago community he is today. We're also supposed to believe the Woods Fund, where Ayers and Obama both served as board members, exists to provide funds to "radicals to spread their particular brand of poison."
According to The Nation, the Woods Fund awards "hundreds of small grants a year, usually no more than $50,000, to activists, neighborhood groups, think tanks and arts and culture projects in Chicago's most-forgotten and blighted communities. It has funded ex-offenders to lobby for the elimination of mandatory minimum sentences and unfair drug laws, organized senior citizens to lobby for affordable housing, [and] pushed parents to get more involved in their children's crumbling schools."
Does that sound "radical" to you? Progressive, perhaps. But Weather Underground-style 1960s radicalism? I think not.
Boo-hiss, John McCain, you senile lying old fart.- IdigObama, on 08/25/2008, -4/+11Tell it tc!
WaHoooooo!!
John MacCain-bought and paid for and living in the past!
And he damn sure don't approve any of these messages!
Obama/Biden 08!- tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Talk about judgment and experience - McCain knew that comment would be distorted!
" I don't think, seriously that—the point is that I'm trying to make here seriously—and I'm sure that comment will be distorted, but the point is...that we want to keep people's taxes low and increase revenues.
...So it doesn't matter really what my definition of "rich" is because I don't want to raise anybody's taxes. I really don't. In fact, I want to give working Americans a better shot at having a better life. And we all know the challenges, my friends." - 17999, on 08/27/2008, -0/+1What do McCain's houses, his idea of wealth, or the size of Peter North's unit have to do with a presidential candidate being friends with an unrepentant, domestic terrorist?
- tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Talk about judgment and experience - McCain knew that comment would be distorted!
- Barackalypse, on 08/26/2008, -8/+3As opposed to the Democrats definition of rich, which means anyone with a full time job making more than minimum wage? Where exactly do you think the line between rich and middle class ends? $100,000? $500,000? $1 million?
- infiniphunk, on 08/26/2008, -2/+7How about when you don't know how many houses you own. Oh wait, that's rich AND dumb.
- miriv365, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2$75,000 -- It seems that that is the definition of rich since everytime Congress starts handing out tax rebates or calls for tax credits..they get phased out starting at $75000 for a single person. Everywhere you read they say $150,000, but you have to pay attention as that is $150,000 per FAMILY.... anyway, I am above that, so I guess I am considered rich, and I get screwed by not getting tax rebates...or proposed gas credits...
- LukasSmith, on 08/26/2008, -11/+8Obama refuses to wear his flag proudly
His wife has never been proud of America
People like Ayers are Obama's people
Connect the Dots people- Meep3D, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3I somehow doubt wearing a flag has any impact on patriotism. It's not like vampires and crosses - it's pretty easy to fake being a patriot and if he _really_ wasn't one he would no doubt be wearing multiple flag pins at all times.
- PacManDude, on 08/26/2008, -4/+0when did mccain say that 5 million is rich ? if you stupid enough to fall for this lie, please please vote obama.
- tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4He joked about it in the Saddleback Church interviews. He actually said: " I think that rich should be defined by a home, a good job, an education and the ability to hand to our children a more prosperous and safer world than the one that we inherited.
I don’t want to take any money from the rich — I want everybody to get rich."
And then after the $5 million comment, he said:
" I don't think, seriously that—the point is that I'm trying to make here seriously—and I'm sure that comment will be distorted, but the point is...that we want to keep people's taxes low and increase revenues.
...So it doesn't matter really what my definition of "rich" is because I don't want to raise anybody's taxes. I really don't. In fact, I want to give working Americans a better shot at having a better life. And we all know the challenges, my friends." - WasabiBomb, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Pretty clever, actually. McCain wants to raise taxes on everyone who's not rich, but keep the tax breaks on the wealthy. Apparently, he wants us all to be rich, so NOBODY will have to pay taxes! Genius!
If we elect McCain, only the poor will have to pay taxes... but nobody will be poor, according to him. It's like magic. - tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1WB, McCain doesn't want to raise taxes for anyone. I don't know where you get your information (my guess would be DailyKOS or Huffington Post).
The fact is, McCain and Obama want to lower taxes across the board, except Obama wants to raise taxes on the rich. OBAMA is the only one that wants to raise taxes... - PacManDude, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1when did mccain said that he will raise taxes on the poor ?
the dishonest of the left are just amazing ! - WasabiBomb, on 08/27/2008, -0/+1http://outtheotherear.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/ ...
Take a look at that chart. Obama and McCain both propose tax decreases, but under McCain, everyone who is making less than $111645/year (which is something like 98% of the population) would be paying more than under Obama's plan.
Perhaps I worded it poorly, but the result is the same- the vast majority of the population would be paying LESS in taxes under Obama than they would under McCain.
It sure is a good thing that the wealthy have tkstock to look out for them. I'm sure they appreciate it.
- tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4He joked about it in the Saddleback Church interviews. He actually said: " I think that rich should be defined by a home, a good job, an education and the ability to hand to our children a more prosperous and safer world than the one that we inherited.
- IdigObama, on 08/25/2008, -4/+11Tell it tc!
- alapoet, on 08/25/2008, -5/+29There's a silver lining to this particular cloud: It may be a good sign that McCain is this desperate, this early in the campaign.
- tcbishop12, on 08/25/2008, -6/+8From your keyboard to God's ears, Steve.
- BishkekBuddy, on 08/25/2008, -5/+6From your keyboard to America's ears!
- Barackalypse, on 08/26/2008, -6/+9You think its desperate to question the relationship a Presidential candidate had with a domestic terrorist? I think its desperate to issue a response ad that basically amounts to "Shouldn't we be talking about something else?". Oh sure, there's that bit in there about Obama denouncing Ayers crimes, but wouldn't you think he'd want to explain why he seems to have a lot of encounters with the man anyway? Its a lot like denouncing Rev. Wright after sitting in his church for 20 years, denouncing doesn't mean anything, distancing does.
- LukasSmith, on 08/26/2008, -3/+10Desperate? There have been hundreds if not thousands of ads like this used by presidential candidates in history. Even Obama uses ad's and not all of them are positive. So no this is nothing new or unusual. This is normal. Nothing special to it. No amazing silver lining can be divined from a centuries old tradition of negative ads.
- tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4Yeah, McCain has gone from a 10 point deficit to being tied during the DNC Convention. Yeah, he's desperate.
Not.- Troika37, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3And now, McCain's up 2 points.
- tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Yeah, I wasn't going to comment on the statistical error of polling, but you're right.
If Obama's bump from the convention is kept to a minimum, and McCain gets a good bump from the RNC Convention, then it should be smooth sailing until November... ;)
- nixfu, on 08/26/2008, -10/+16
THIS IS THE WORST POLITICAL AD I HAVE EVER SEEN....they really should have gotten a second opinion on this one before sending it out.
Its like hitting 'send' on that nasty email you just composed to that idiot in the other department...usually not a good idea to send without at least having a co-worker look it over. - Minarchian, on 08/26/2008, -20/+14Obama worked with Ayers until at least 2002.
Why doesn't he admit this fact?
Why is he trying to skirt the issue?- stagmire, on 08/26/2008, -5/+7.lol, "worked for." Where do you dopes come up with this stuff?
- GrodyChamp, on 08/26/2008, -4/+6He said "worked WITH", idiot.
- Minarchian, on 08/26/2008, -2/+4Stagmire
Typical Obamaranian non-thinker.
Sees things that aren't even there.
I think the only qualification for being a blindly following Obamaranian is if you can't think. Because, if you think about what you're doing you'd know Obama will not be doing anything beneficial to the US....I haven't heard him once say he will uphold the Constitution. So what makes Obamaranians think he's going to be good for the country?
Obama = McCain = Bush = Bad for the country - 17999, on 08/27/2008, -0/+1Reading Is Fundamental (RIF) stagmire.
- rthakidn, on 08/26/2008, -2/+3Worked WITH, my God, blinded by celebrity.
- flaknugget, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2"The two served together on the Woods Fund Board from 1999 until Obama left in 2002. Ayers had other contacts with Obama, including hosting a candidate reception attended by Obama early in Obama's first Illinois Senate campaign, appearing on education panels together, and donating $200 to Obama's campaign back in April 2001."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
Obama and Ayers served on a municipal education reform board of director for 3 years. That's it. Oh, and he once made a $200 donation to his senate campaign 8 years ago.
When Ayers was considered a dangerous person, Obama was about 10 years old and living in Hawaii. So there is your reason to tremble with fear.
The "American Issues Project", which has apparently been in existence for less than a week (and has a paint-by-numbers template website to match), just wants to buy as much attention on this non-issue as they can afford to so, Fox and every other American 'news' outlet will talk about nothing else until November.
http://www.americanissuesproject.org
That's why Obama won't say anything on the topic, because it's beneath him, and it should be beneath the political system. Acknowledging anything about this will give the issue more credit then it deserves. That's what they want from Obama, a neat little 3 second clip of him mentioning this, which can be played every 15 minutes on hate-radio and news until the hachet-job is complete...
And here you guys are defending this kind of *****, hate-fueled politics like it should actually exist in your system or something.
These people would say and pay anything get another corporate criminal republican in office.
So god bless America, you ***** tools.
- stagmire, on 08/26/2008, -5/+7.lol, "worked for." Where do you dopes come up with this stuff?
- stranglethorne, on 08/26/2008, -23/+7they're both ***** clowns.
mccain is a warmongering retard, obama is a corrupt ***** speaking bilderberg attendee.
ron paul is the only candidate who has the moral integrity and the brains to pull america out of this black hole.- Bartboy919, on 08/26/2008, -5/+7....................../´¯/)
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- cashman57, on 08/26/2008, -22/+4I wonder why the OBushma fans don't try to deny the fact that OBushma is a leftist?
Instead they cry about a commercial.
If they don't think that OBushma's ties to leftist radicals will be a topic in this election they need to learn about how politics works.
Obushma or McSame isn't a choice, it's just lame- Mononuclear, on 08/26/2008, -1/+5why would anyone try to deny he is a leftist? Liberals are on the left.. (well in the US anyway. In the rest of the world they are more center)
- imnojezus, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2I disagree. There's no major party in America that can be considered left of center. If anything, both parties lean toward the right.
Other countries in the world have socialism, communism, labor-centric liberalism... our Democratic party doesn't hold a candle to a true "leftist" group. - Mononuclear, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2what part of "(well in the US anyway. In the rest of the world they are more center)" did you not get? Liberals in the US are considered left wing even though those same liberals in most other places in the world would be more central. In US politics they are on the left.
- tkstock, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Left and right is relative to the political system in which those designations are given - in this case, the US system. Left and right doesn't apply to the rest of the world.
- imnojezus, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2I disagree. There's no major party in America that can be considered left of center. If anything, both parties lean toward the right.
- Mononuclear, on 08/26/2008, -1/+5why would anyone try to deny he is a leftist? Liberals are on the left.. (well in the US anyway. In the rest of the world they are more center)
- jamesalfaro, on 08/26/2008, -0/+12direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mjhVsUosn8
- se7endaytheory7, on 08/26/2008, -21/+1Obama Bin Biden
- stranglethorne, on 08/26/2008, -3/+2Barrack Hussein Obama
- bjornski, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2You idiot Freepers need a real hobby besides coming up with scary sounding names.
- omegared, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4bush Cheney McCain, getting Americans killed in military action since we lied about the reasons for war in 2003.
- bjornski, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2I know one hobby that almost NONE of the Freepers have tried!
It's a great way to show how much you support their views, too!
http://www.goarmy.com/contact/find_a_recruiter.jsp
- stranglethorne, on 08/26/2008, -3/+2Barrack Hussein Obama
- 420ilerBuzzed, on 08/26/2008, -8/+12McCain reminds me of an old, gray, withered up piece of dog *****.
- xaxxon, on 08/26/2008, -2/+7there's a pretty simple reason for that..
- earlobe, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1thats an excellent reason not to vote for him....
- 17999, on 08/27/2008, -0/+1Good thing you didn't step in him.
- Maynza, on 08/26/2008, -3/+6I love so much that the end of the ad rhymes, it pleases me deeply.
- abajaj2280, on 08/26/2008, -6/+5Very fast comeback.
The ending was amazing. - ISIfunded911, on 08/26/2008, -18/+3Who cares? They are both ***** puppets of Wall Street and the military-industrial complex.
For the naive who still believe Obama means "change", read this:
http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Postmodern-Webster-Gri ...
This review is from: Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate (Paperback)
Politicians do the opposite of what they promise more often than not. So before you vote, plug your ears to their speeches, and check what their advisors have been up to...
In "Obama: the Postmodern Coup," Tarpley gets a giant scoop as the first to delve behind the screen into the forces behind Obama: and finds out his handlers are enemies of the people. Zbigniew Brzezinski (instigator of Al-Qaeda and the Afghan-Soviet war) is CEO of the BHO show. On the economy, regressive Skull & Bones and Wall Street figures set the tone. In military affairs, it's Gen. McPeak, the perpetrator of genocidal civilian bombing tactics.
All unawares, the United States slipped into the grip of a soft coup last fall, the Brzezinski faction won over the power elite, and the neo-cons are unlamented lame ducks. Tarpley finds that "Zbig" controls two of the three front runners for the presidency -- Barack Obama and John McCain, but that Obama is the elitist favorite for a "new face" on a doddering empire.
Obama got his entrée as a protegé of "Realpolitiker" Brzezinski. He is scripted to loftily fill the role of pseudo-savior, a key one for the planned hysteria of the "people power" coups, as perfected by Left CIA and NGO traveling circuses in Eastern Europe. Now the recipe is being franchised home to cook America's political process.
Obama's backers make a laundry-list of the elite: the Rockefellers, Rand Corp., Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Chicago School of Economics, Bilderbergers - and the Ford Foundation six ways to Sunday. No wonder the manufactured messiah gets the lion's share of campaign cash from the corporations, and a free ride from their wholly owned media.
Tarpley ought to be dean of social sciences in a prestigious university (if any of them aren't vassals of the robber baron foundations, Rockefeller and Ford). I happen to have a poli sci degree, but almost all of "Postmodern Coup" was new to me, for example:
- American history is marked by cycles or "party realignments" of about 36 or 40 years, such as FDR's 1932 landslide or the upheavals of 1968. A few power cult strategists like Samuel Huntington know this. Under Brzezinski-Carter, they began planning ahead to subvert the cycle shift we are in now, first by the "War on Terror," now with the synthetic, pseudo-leftist Obama movement, to set the nation on a course they will determine until around 2050.
- The Democrats repeatedly nominate foregone losers with their caucus system, tilted towards "Volvo-driving" Democrats who decide the primaries in red states, which the Dems never win in the GE. Obama continues this quaint tradition of "square-wheelers" which won't play in Peoria, like Mondale, Dukakis, McGovern etc.
- How to recognize fascism in the bud? It doesn't start as a right-wing, top-down system. First it needs to gather strength from grass roots. Usually it spawns as a youth movement, often left-tinged, idealist, mystical, with stirring slogans, euphoria, and a theme of national unity and regeneration. Not so unlike "Obamania." Mussolini got his start as a leftist, socialist politico.
- Why does Obama want to attack Pakistan, the world's 6th largest country, with almost 3 times more people than Iran, and 6 times more than Iraq? It's a Chinese ally, and to get at Russia, Brzezinski wants to isolate China, forcing it to attack Russia to get oil. A madcap gambit, that can only play the US into an even tighter corner.
"Postmodern Coup" is a book with a mission -- to stave off the looming world-historical tragedy that Tarpley foresees. Yet it's about much more than "Manchurian candidate" Obama, or even Brzezinski and his earlier puppet, Jimmy Carter. Historian Tarpley draws on an unparalleled store of erudition, past precedents and inside knowledge of today's political players, and distills it here for our up-to-the-minute situation.
This book is a crash course in the essentials you need to know about US and world politics, but the media never wanted you to.- AndrewDB, on 08/26/2008, -2/+9Block of political text hits you for over 9,000 damage!
- Maynza, on 08/26/2008, -1/+7I'm sorry, I was about to tackle your wall of text when I saw your name was "ISIfunded911" no thanks, I'll just bury you so i don't accidentally read anything you wrote.
- Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4Ugh, you always post this. Even conservatives denounce that book as crap.
get a hold of your life.
- sebchabal, on 08/26/2008, -14/+12Well, Ayers was a bomber. A terrorist, in other words. Does that not matter anymore?
- davidwasman, on 08/26/2008, -7/+15Nope.
Or did you miss the part where Obama was 8?- mustangmike53, on 08/27/2008, -0/+3How ***** stupid are you "He was only 8." people???
Obama was in his late 30's, not 8 years old, and on the political fast track when he made the decision that it was OK to work with and accept the support of an admitted and unrepentent terrorist. That's bad judgement. (Unless you're of the 'dissent is the highest form of patriotism, and bombing the Pentagon is the highest form of dissent, therefore bombing the Pentagon is the highest form of patriotism' crowd.)
He was in his 40's and halfway to the Democrat nomination for President of the United States of America when he defended his associations with an openly treasonous, violent terrorist by saying he was 'only 8' when Ayers committed his crimes. That's stupidity.
Draw your own conclusion.
- mustangmike53, on 08/27/2008, -0/+3How ***** stupid are you "He was only 8." people???
- repins, on 08/26/2008, -5/+6davidwasman, this show a pattern that Obama tends to either be attracted to or attract major radicals. If he thinks that Ayers and Wright are good and honest people, that does matter.
I would not elect a Sheriff if some of his friends where criminals, and he said how much they where good people.- klco, on 08/26/2008, -2/+3Would this also apply to anyone associated with Pat Robertson?
- GreatSunJester, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2On that.. how many bombs has Robertson set off? And not idea bombs!
- theatermystic, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2@kico: you must be "radical" to effect change. If Barack is tied to "terrorists" then so is every single person who was around in the '60's marching for Civil Rights or opposing them. The KKK is an American terrorist organization. Have a friend whose dad was a Sherrif or a deputy in the South at the time, well, LEO's in that time were terror groups. But, that nuanced point escapes you.
- travtrk, on 08/30/2008, -0/+0so true. Obama can run for president with friends like Wright and Ayers??
Imagine IF McCain was a close friend of David Duke.
- davidwasman, on 08/26/2008, -7/+15Nope.
- blipblipbeep, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5Ive seen this before in the last Australian federal elections, lib's out labor in. They will sort of fight for the people, but you'll be damned if you keep free rights to the internet. This is the new political fashion, its control verses people. Money has its own a-gender.
Updating... BEEP! - CKR600, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5Is it the same guy narrating ads from both sides? Must make a killing pre-producing attack/respond ads and selling both at the same time.
- jdelator, on 08/26/2008, -4/+7third huffington post article on the front page at the moment
- Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -8/+12To McCain supporters.
Do you really think Obama has spent his whole life plotting to be a terrorist? And his master plan was becoming the (almost implausible task of) first black president to carry out some sort of attack?
Do you REALLY think that? Seriously, honestly. Do you?- ShadowMerchant, on 08/26/2008, -11/+3No I don't.
However, I do believe that Obama is a socialist piece of ***** who subscribes to the ideal of "No enemies on the Left." His embrace of the unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a filthy stain on his honor and a damning indictment of his judgment. His stewardship of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge was truly piss-poor, and seems to have been designed mostly to enrich Ayers and other activists on the furthest Left fringe of American politics with money that should have been used to improve education for Chicago schoolchildren. As this was the only executive experience of his life, it tells me that he is an incompetent empty suit at best and a hard-Left enemy of free-market democracy at worst. He absolutely cannot be trusted with power.
We are going to Swift Boat the living ***** out of him. We will hang the reprehensible commie heap of filth Bill Ayers around his neck and sink his campaign, I guarantee you. Get used to seeing that picture of Ayers standing on the American flag, because when we're done with Obama, the average American voter is going to perceive Obama as standing right next to him.
In my youth, I would have been thrilled to have seen Marxist scum like Bill Ayers shot dead in the street like a dog, or blown to smithereens in his bomb workshop just like his stupid little commie ***** girlfriend. However, I am savoring this moment and the sweeter, more sophisticated revenge we are about to have on the hard Left. Ayers and his ilk have been salivating at the prospect of getting a fellow traveler in such a position of power. Obama has been the work of decades by committed Gramscian termites. Now, on the cusp of their greatest triumph, it is about to turn to ashes in their mouths. McCain is going to crush Obama with a 10% or 15% majority. The Left will never recover. The Democratic Party will be torn to pieces. I will hear the wails of anguish and outrage coming from every college campus and urban ghetto, and I will laugh and jeer in delight as the Left is crushed yet again by the Right. Death to collectivism!- Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -2/+4did your dad hit your mom in front of you when you were a kid?
- neognostic, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2I'm pretty sure there are far, far deeper issues than just his dad hitting his mom. Please get therapy, before we see you on the news shooting children in the streets.
- ShadowMerchant, on 08/28/2008, -0/+0Behold the liberal mindset: anyone who disagrees with us is crazy and belongs in therapy. This is how Russian dissidents ended up in psychiatric hospitals.
- jgjonola, on 08/26/2008, -2/+3Is this sarcasm? I'm just not sure but to answer your questions as if it was not sarcasm...
No we don't think that King Obama is going to carry out an attack. I just want my president to think about who he associates with. Why would he even get anywhere near Ayers?
Just a few...
Ayers
Reverend Wright
Listens to Ludacris
Rezco
All possibly small issues. Together, I just have to say that we have to be able to do better.
I'm kind of sick of him distancing himself from people...- Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -2/+3So you really want the government to control the content you can an cannot see on the internet and the speed at which you do so?
You want the telecoms to have immunity for their illegal spying actions and no watchdog jury to overlook FISA?
Youd rather pay MORE money to the government out of every paycheck you make?
You dont want to bring our troops home from a war that was supposed to be about WMDs but now there are none?
You want a bigger government and more taxes.....
all because obama listens to ludacris... or this ayers BS? You honestly dont think McCain has a number of people with questionable character around him?
Say it... say "I want a bigger government and to pay more taxes to them"... say it. And ill tip my hat to you for voting for McCain and the desire for those things. - johndavidjack, on 08/26/2008, -3/+1^^^^
Face palm...X infinite....
I won't argue your post sentence for sentence, I'll sum it up quickly, so how come it seems like Obama has done nothing that you have mentioned, and his Senate voting record is no different?
I hope this is a sarcasm post, I really do. You know what, I'll send you a private shout with my address so you can mail me your voting card. Honestly, I don't care whom everyone is going to vote for, because everyone has a different situation, but you are severely misguided on a number of issues, and your sycophantic support and hopes for Obama are laughable to say the least...
Oh, nevermind me though, I am just a baby-killing warmonger, who clings to his guns and religion, and is in the pocket of big oil, right? - earlobe, on 08/26/2008, -2/+2@jgjonola Actually its the democrats whose basic philosophy is more taxes to fund government programs and a bigger government. The conservative stance which you appear to want is the one of smaller government control and less taxes so they'll be less restrictions on small business.
maybe do a tad of research before you start berating people. - WasabiBomb, on 08/26/2008, -1/+3earlobe, you've fallen for the Big Lie the Republican party keeps pushing on us. They SAY that they're for smaller government and less spending, and that if you vote for Democrats you're voting for bloated government and lots of spending...
... but historically, the size of the government and the budget has grown during REPUBLICAN terms, and shrunk during Democrat terms. It's all a lie, and somehow, they keep getting voters to believe it. - Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Sources for my comments
McCain for Fisa (With telecom immunity/ no watchdog jury*)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/25/mc ...
McCain against net neutrality (new bigger government branch controling the imformation you receive.
http://www.thedailybackground.com/2007/05/30/mccai ...
McCain Taxing you more (unless you make way over 6 figures, which you dont)
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/11/141710 ...
Plus a giant run up of the deficit greater than Obamas.
I did my research Jack. These are the facts, you live in the illusion that your voting for a conservative. You're not, you're voting for a neo-con.
***** god help us all if McCain gets elected..
- Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -2/+3So you really want the government to control the content you can an cannot see on the internet and the speed at which you do so?
- infiniphunk, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4You'd be surprised at how many of them are actually that stupid.
- jayzDigga, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Guilt by association.
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/26/2008, -2/+4No, you ***** moron, Swiftgood. NO.
No one, NO ONE, is claiming Obama is a terrorist.
What they are claiming is that Obama has spent his life among radical left wing people like Ayers and is trying to downplay it and in some cases denies it.
What they are claiming is that despite the nice speeches, Obama is a far left socialist and not the centrist that he tries to convince every he is. He is not a centrist. His a far left liberal who is pretending to be something he isn't.
Why is no one allowed to question this?- Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Pretending? Like reaching a compromise with limited off shore drilling? thats pretending?
Pretending? Voting for a regulated FISA bill... thats pretending?
These things have pissed people off, but hes doing them anyways because he is truly open to compromise to help the country.
These are the facts. This Ayers thing is just an emotional appeal... Voting on emotions is crap. I dont think people should do it for Obama, i dont think people should do it for McCain either.
Obama says "change" and you call us sheep
McCain says "POW or Ayers" and we call you sheep
It goes both ways.. these arguments are both crap.
- Shiftgood, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2Pretending? Like reaching a compromise with limited off shore drilling? thats pretending?
- johndavidjack, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2I will put it like this, put McCain in Obama's shoes. A patriotic American such as yourself would definitely question the reasoning for McCain doing the same thing...
Objectivity please...- Diggnabbit, on 08/27/2008, -0/+1Question it? Yes.
And then I'd listen to the answers and be satisfied that he wasn't some sort of America-hating, pro-terrorist.
- Diggnabbit, on 08/27/2008, -0/+1Question it? Yes.
- stix213, on 08/26/2008, -2/+1He hasn't spent his whole life plotting to be a terrorist, but he has spent his entire adult life befriending radicals when it would help his political career and personal finances. From joining a Black Liberation Theology church, to working with shady folks to get discounted real estate, to working with hardcore sixties militant radicals.
Each were necessary at the time to fast track Obama's career and cash flow... just like when Obama joined the senate, his wife's salary tripled at her hospital at the same time Obama got the hospital a huge million $$$ grant. No connection obviously between the governement grant to the hospital Obama was able to push through, and Mrs. Obama's tripling in salary. She deserved a tripling in salary, and Obama just picked that hospital at random to get that grant.
- ShadowMerchant, on 08/26/2008, -11/+3No I don't.
- MrStat, on 08/26/2008, -10/+3Perhaps Mr Obama can answer a few questions of his own!
It is now quite clear that Obama is a corporate candidate from A to Z. In his voting record, he voted against reform of the Mining Act of 1872, which gives away our hard rock minerals. He voted for a terrible class-action restriction law that the corporations wanted him to vote for. He’s voted for reauthorizing the PATRIOT Act. He's vigorously against impeachment of Bush and Cheney. He won’t even support his colleague Senator Russ Feingold motion to censure the Bush administration for systemic repeated illegal wiretaps. And now he’s appointed Biden as his VP. Biden of course is an old corporate tool who is against basic freedoms such as Net Neutrality. This nomination is not a surprise of course given Mr Obama's other advisers are of the same cloth, including his economic advisers who were hired right out of the Robert Rubin school of Citigroup and the University of Chicago; or his Middle East advisers who are pro-Israeli, and responsible for that most disgraceful AIPAC speech that Obama pronounced right after his nomination.
It’s a sad thing to see, because Obama knows better, but he’s suppressing himself repeatedly. He has worn out the word “change” in his many great speeches. We now want to know what *change* is involved here.- akinapb, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Change you won't get from McCain. That's all you have to know. You name me one non-"corporate tool" in Washington, and I'll name you 200 who are. Welcome to America, a one party two faction political system.
- rroeserr, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Why do you want the gov't to regulate the Internet? Why does anyone want something like the FCC for the internet. Please explain that to me? Why give the government power over the Internet they will never return? Net Neutrality is just stupid. Its solution in search of a problem.
- rdoger6424, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Because if the government is not going to do it, Comcast is going to do it. And I don't want those ***** to get their grubby hands on my free access to the internet.
- rroeserr, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1And you can't use something else?
You can use DSL, 3g Wireless, cable, fios, subscriber line, dial-up, etc.
It's not your free access to the internet. Where did you get that idea? You pay for the service. You don't have a right to the internet.
The last thing we need is the government screwing it up. It will only rise the price of internet access.
- Billistic, on 08/26/2008, -9/+3America, you suck.
Get your act together buddy. - Barackalypse, on 08/26/2008, -11/+13That ad isn't a response, its a diversion. A response would actually involve trying to address the claims McCain's ad made, the closest the Obama ad came to that was saying Obama denounced Ayers crimes, which is interesting because Obama seems to do a lot of denouncing of the words and actions of people he surrounds himself with. At the end of the day though, I have to wonder why, if he disagrees with them, does he sit in church and listen to them, sit on boards with them, and attend fund raisers with these same people?
- radiofrequency, on 08/26/2008, -14/+9The fact that Barack Obama chose to launch his political career at the home of an unrepentant terrorist raises more questions about Senator Obama's judgment than any TV ad ever could.
Ayers, Rezko, Rev Wright - there's a pattern forming here.- infiniphunk, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Oh look, I see a pattern forming here.
- WasabiBomb, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2What's the pattern? Tell us. I'd really like to see what kind of paranoid supersecret plot you think Obama's trying to pull off.
- radiofrequency, on 08/26/2008, -11/+4The fact that Barack Obama chose to launch his political career at the home of an unrepentant terrorist raises more questions about Senator Obama's judgment than any TV ad ever could.
Ayers, Rezko, Rev Wright - there's a pattern forming here.- infiniphunk, on 08/26/2008, -1/+3Oh look, I see a pattern forming here.
- xaoiv, on 08/26/2008, -5/+17Bill Ayers is a college professor, a philanthropist, and a productive member of society who had a radical past in the 1960s (though he was never convicted of anything). Unfortunately, the Obama campaign can't say this because they would be accused of "defending the terrorist."
Obama and Ayers served on the board of directors of an anti-poverty charity together for three years. They were at best acquaintances.
This whole "controversy" is nothing more than a distraction.- jgjonola, on 08/26/2008, -3/+3In 2001, the New York Times reported that Ayers admitted in his biography that "he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972."
Now, he is ok though. What kind of crap is that? Just because he does good now does not excuse him for his past problems.
Jeez, can King Obama do anything to make people think they might not want him as pres? Come on, can we at least wait until he has finished a full term in the senate?- xaoiv, on 08/26/2008, -1/+8Obama was on the board of a charity with a college professor who had a radical past.
How exactly does this prevent him from being a good president? - infiniphunk, on 08/26/2008, -3/+1pfft, if things keep going like they are, in a few more years there will be plenty of you sad gringos bombing cop-shops and gov't buildings. Do you know what a ***** revolution is buddy?
- ShadowMerchant, on 08/26/2008, -3/+0"Do you know what a ***** revolution is buddy?"
Bring it, *****. I'll be in a counter-revolutionary death squad.
- xaoiv, on 08/26/2008, -1/+8Obama was on the board of a charity with a college professor who had a radical past.
- ShadowMerchant, on 08/26/2008, -6/+4Bill Ayers is the most worthless piece of ***** in American public life. In a just world, someone would put a bomb under his car and blow him to bloody rags, then pontificate about how it was all just a grand "teaching moment."
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/21/ayers-in-200 ...
9 children grew up fatherless because of the Weather Underground. If Ayers didn't manage to personally kill anyone, it's not for lack of trying. He is scum and filth and dung. Anyone who would sit in the same room with him is an inhuman piece of ***** too. And he is about to become the reason Obama will lose 40 states to McCain. - loki49152, on 08/26/2008, -2/+4"They were at best acquaintances."
At Bill Ayers' house. To launch Obamas campaign for President.- vexingmodstwo, on 08/26/2008, -3/+2State Senate... Ayers launched Obama's run for State Senate.
But yes, that is definitely more than just being "at best acquaintances"... much more. - Diggnabbit, on 08/27/2008, -0/+1Ayers didn't launch his run for state senate. A meeting was held at Ayers house (by other people, aka the Democratic party) to benefit his run.
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/26/2008, -3/+2State Senate... Ayers launched Obama's run for State Senate.
- jgjonola, on 08/26/2008, -3/+3In 2001, the New York Times reported that Ayers admitted in his biography that "he participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, the Pentagon in 1972."
- Turbosc, on 08/26/2008, -7/+11Jesus Christ people, wake up, McCain is a ***** dinosaur.
- narupo, on 08/26/2008, -2/+2Everyone,even you would be a ***** dinosaur in your old age.
- earlobe, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Summary @Turbosc:
"yea, guys. don't listen or think about anything in these two ads. they dont matter. what truly matters is that McCain is really old. That and only that should be the factor that determines who you vote for."
- LukasSmith, on 08/26/2008, -6/+8Thats it?!! Who cares if Obama is connected to Ayers because we have other problems? What a lame ***** excuse.
- VinnieDaMac, on 08/26/2008, -3/+3Wow, that McCain spokesperson is brainwashed.
- bjornski, on 08/26/2008, -2/+1So are his supporters.
- ftx437, on 08/26/2008, -1/+3if we're brainwashed then what the hell are obama people..there 100 times worse.
- bjornski, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2If you can't go back through McCain's voting record, and see how many times he's flip-flopped, and who it benefits each time, maybe you'd understand why he's SUCH A BAD ***** CHOICE.
Same with Barr. Go back through his record. It's HORRIBLE.
I think that balanced with Biden, the Obama ticket is the one that sucks least.
- bjornski, on 08/26/2008, -2/+1So are his supporters.
- infiniphunk, on 08/26/2008, -5/+5I would sooner believe McCain to be the terrorist here. Seriously America, you want a guy who got that ***** up by Vietnam to be your president?!?!
Get a ***** clue already. - GrodyChamp, on 08/26/2008, -5/+7Huffpo, a now official business parnter brought to you officially by Digg to the front page 50 times a day!
- stranglethorne, on 08/26/2008, -9/+3obama is a muslim
- haydesigner, on 08/28/2008, -0/+1Are you really that ignorant?
- narupo, on 08/26/2008, -5/+7McCain will be the 44th american president for sure.
- treefrog001, on 08/26/2008, -3/+6Obama is falling into the trap that Democrats always seem fall into, constantly being on the defensive by having to respond to sleazy Republican attack ads that are long on innuendo and short on substance. Obama's people need to switch gears and put McCain on the defensive for a change. Bombard the airwaves with ads about his temper and his dealings with sleazeballs like Charles Keating. There's plenty of ammunition out there, USE IT!!!
- rthakidn, on 08/26/2008, -4/+6Painting Republican attacks as sleazy is a bit like whining when you're losing. The fact is, the Democrats tend to have a platform that is borderline socialist, so they will attract and have acquaintances with people of that bent, usually more extreme in their socialist positions. They gravitate to each other. Now the extreme socialists, like Ayers, will always use the useful idiots to achieve their goals. It's therefore on the Dem. politician to be careful who they associate with, knowing that's the type of people they attract. Otherwise, they open themselves up to attacks like this.
- Diggnabbit, on 08/27/2008, -1/+1The Democratic platform is far from socialist. Republicans keep saying that, but event he most socialist part of it (healthcare) is not even close to being socialist.
- UNCsucks, on 08/26/2008, -2/+4Why is it not ok for McCain to point out that Obama has associated himself with radical people?
If Obama spouted an ad that linked McCain to some radical righty, Digg would be like, "ZOMG AWESOME AD!" and say it was fair play.- WasabiBomb, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2And then McCain would respond with "But I'm a POW!!!!!", and you people would eat that ***** up.
- LastVisibleDog, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Sleazy - you clearly don't understand anything about Ayers.
Barry Obama is going to lose
The Democrat party will completely implode
Since the Clinton were brushed aside by the Lefty Loonies, they will be the big-time Democrat winners and will be the leaders of the new Democrat party
- rthakidn, on 08/26/2008, -4/+6Painting Republican attacks as sleazy is a bit like whining when you're losing. The fact is, the Democrats tend to have a platform that is borderline socialist, so they will attract and have acquaintances with people of that bent, usually more extreme in their socialist positions. They gravitate to each other. Now the extreme socialists, like Ayers, will always use the useful idiots to achieve their goals. It's therefore on the Dem. politician to be careful who they associate with, knowing that's the type of people they attract. Otherwise, they open themselves up to attacks like this.
- Treoinmypocket, on 08/26/2008, -7/+10Obama's response ad is weak, especially the "when Obama was only 8 years old" bit. Yeah, that's why I can hang out with my boy Adolf...you know....all that murder and genocide happened when I was 8. He's respectable now.
Doesn't really fly does it? Ayers platted the bombing of several US Government sites - including the Capital - was involved in the death of four people and to this day says he and the Weather Underground didn't do enough. And Obama is friends with the guy, served on boards with him (Ayers picked him and paid him directly) and Obama held one of his first "announcement to run for Presidential office" speeches in Ayers house (despite effort by the campaign to say that didn't happen, the attendees have come out and said it did).
I don't give a damn whether you support Obama or not but don't close your eyes, stick you fingers in your ears and hum when the truth comes knocking. McCain clearly has skeletons too. WE THE PEOPLE have to keep ALL politicians accountable. - TheInformer, on 08/26/2008, -4/+12I wonder if David Duke would ever stand a chance to be POTUS. All of that racism and KKKing was in his past, right? None of that would be relevant now, would it?
Obama's "response" is nothing of the sort. It addresses none of the points and was only put out to try to divert the people's attention away from the facts - Ayers is a terrorist. Obama has bad judgment, and If McCain had ties to the same type of people that Obama does, Huffingtonpost, Thinkprogress, Dailykos, CNN, MSNBC, Olbermann, and the other leftist propagandists would have a collective spazzfest over and would be airing daily attacks on McCain because of it.
Huffingtonpost spewage. Buried.- vexingmodstwo, on 08/26/2008, -2/+3Oh, they've tried... Keating Five.
They try to do the same thing but McCain has never lied about the relationship. He even admitted it was a dumb move. Kinda like Obama and Rezko.
But the Ayers thing is totally different. Obama flat out LIED about the relationship.
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/26/2008, -2/+3Oh, they've tried... Keating Five.
- jayzDigga, on 08/26/2008, -4/+6Huff Post - you spam too much.
God Bless America, pass the Kool-Aid.- omegared, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1who is this god you are talking about?
- wwwonka, on 08/26/2008, -5/+3It comes down to this...
McCain is ***** idiot. Someone who is more interested in the divisive negative nature of things than bringing the nation together. I waited to hear and see the candidates true nature before deciding and now I would have even voted for Jeffrey Dahmer over McSame. At least Dahmer was nice to everyone before he screwed them.- johndavidjack, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1What?
That's fine, I like to hold politicians accountable, no matter who they are.
I find it funny that Obama is going to easily bring a nation together given his ties to a DOMESTIC TERRORIST BOMBER, and our favorite slander throwing Pastor Reverend Wright.
Maybe if Obama explained himself instead of sidestepping these ties, he'd be more believable. You know, next time someone accuses me of being friends with someone that blew up buildings and in-direct loss of American life, I sure as hell would clear that ***** up REAL fast.
Jeffrey Dahmer comment was obviously sarcasm, or so I hope...- wwwonka, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Ties to a "DOMESTIC TERRORIST BOMBER"? Really? Do tell what you know that no one else with a brain knows? Watching Fox news and listening to John McCain do not count for "truth". Do you know the facts? I am going to bet not. Do you know Obama was eight years old when he had his ONLY contact with the so called "terrorist"? Would you also call our founding fathers "terrorists" because they started a revolution against the government?
Quit being a sheep and open your eyes to your truth, their truth, and the real truth. - johndavidjack, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1I see. Maybe when Timothy McVeigh gets out of jail (yes, I know) we can all have a pow-wow with him at his house, since I was younger when the OCB happened. Wasn't that a revolution too?
I realize Obama's age when the bombings took place, and I never have advocated he took part in, or praised such actions, because in fact, Obama's Council stated, "Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence."
Listen, I'm not the type of person that makes acquaintances with people like that. I would never trust, or work with someone like that if I had a choice. You think I shouldn't question a candidate's judgment over that? What am I supposed to think about Reverend Wright's numerous remarks? Just as you question McCain's acquiantances, past, and family history, I will question pieces of Obama's past. I am not the people call Obama a closet racist/Muslim, anti-Christ, etc.
I'd hope you were just using the last part (founding fathers comparison to Ayers) as ammunition for your argument, because I would really hope you don't believe that. These are the same guys that owned slaves, were bitter alcoholics, beat their wives, most were barely literate, etc. You know, the guys whom wore wigs and created a Bill of Rights and Constitution that none of these idiots in Washington could even remotely doctor up or agree upon...
If you think the same behavior is acceptable now-a-days (minus being much better politicians :-) ), I'm sure you wouldn't mind if we started executing all of our war dodgers, beating your kids at school, texas justice, oh, and no welfare for anyone...
I'll open my eyes when the truth comes up, which unfortunately isn't going to happen with either candidate, so I am going to be skeptical, deal?
- wwwonka, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Ties to a "DOMESTIC TERRORIST BOMBER"? Really? Do tell what you know that no one else with a brain knows? Watching Fox news and listening to John McCain do not count for "truth". Do you know the facts? I am going to bet not. Do you know Obama was eight years old when he had his ONLY contact with the so called "terrorist"? Would you also call our founding fathers "terrorists" because they started a revolution against the government?
- johndavidjack, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1What?
- imnojezus, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1My apologies, Mononuclear... I COMPLETELY misread you.
I've really got to stop the pre-coffee comments. - BigMacMcChicken, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4OHHHH it was in the 60s.
Well by all means, I think we should forget about it then.
It's amazing how liberals are always trying to make people forget what they were saying/doing in the 60s.
This is the loony crowd Obama runs with. Former communists, terrorists, radicals, who all realized that that the only way to accomplish their totalitarian vision was to hide it from everyone at all costs. Play it off like they were just a bunch of stupid kids in the 60s. Yeah right. It's amazing that Obama will constantly drop words like "fairness" or "justice" when referring to the economy and nobody will call him out.
Obama's ilk doesn't care how bad things get, or how low the standard of living is. They only care about equality. If we're all hungry and freezing to death, that's progress. That's why they are constantly talking about the gap between rich and poor. It's much easier to make the rich poor than to make the poor rich.- Comanche, on 08/26/2008, -2/+1Who cares about the ***** 60s when your freaking economy is failing now. Wow, you a dinosaur too?
- BigMacMcChicken, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1i merely ask that my president don't run with communist terrorists. Or at least communist terrorists that wanted to bring down my country.
And the worst part is that you people somehow imply that because it was in the 60s it doesn't matter. That is possibly one of the weirdest thing I've ever heard. It's like you people are willing to admit that Obama rubs shoulders with former terrorists. Are you conceding the point? That's really, really weird.
You guys gotta get your story straight... is it
A) Obama hardly knows him
or
B) it happened so long ago
- BigMacMcChicken, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1i merely ask that my president don't run with communist terrorists. Or at least communist terrorists that wanted to bring down my country.
- Comanche, on 08/26/2008, -2/+1Who cares about the ***** 60s when your freaking economy is failing now. Wow, you a dinosaur too?
- blackhorsecav, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1A politician is responsible for everything he or she has done. "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" Harry Truman
- LastVisibleDog, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2*****
Bill Ayers did what al-Qaeda was unable to do - he bombed the Capital
Bill Ayers is big friends with Obama and Obama supports the unrepentant man that helped bomb the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol
Hillary could have won
Obama can not win (note: after day-one of Obama's convention Barry went from a tie to being down two points)
Stick a fork in Barry, looks like he is done
Get used to this term: President McCain - RockinRuby, on 08/26/2008, -2/+0Let's not forget that McCain and Obama are not the only two Presidential candidates....Barr's numbers are, in fact, rising in the polls proving that many Americans are looking for an alternative to McBama.
- Tomorrow night, Bob Barr will appear for his second time on the Colbert Report.
- On both Wednesday and Friday mornings, Bob will be appearing on CNN.
- And on Thursday, Glenn Beck will be taping another full hour with our candidate!
In addition to the unexpected media, we had another boost this past Friday when we learned that we’re actually climbing in the polls!
Right now, things are looking good for our campaign, but if we’re able to get into the debates, the sky is the limit.
If you put John McCain, Barack Obama and Bob Barr behind the podium, my money will be on the only candidate who can speak with honesty and sincerity in the interests of liberty — Bob Barr.
Please watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im0Wqj3BSvU
A Time for Liberty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxPrULE6dUU&feature ...
http://www.bobbarr2008.com/ - tcbishop12, on 08/26/2008, -3/+2If you think you know John McCain, you should read on.
Earlier this year, John McCain was interviewed on television, and he promised that he would work against these shadowy outside groups that spread lies and pollute our country with their smears. He was asked specifically about the “swiftboat” people from 2004 in that question.
Then, when he’s behind in the polls, one of those new groups pops up, funded entirely by one billionaire Harold Simmons who was part of those swiftboat people in 2004. And it’s again spreading lies.
You may have heard about it. They dragged up some obscure 60s radical who happens to live in the same neighborhood as Barack Obama, and they try to say that they have this big connection. The new ad says that Obama and Ayers served together "on a left-wing board. and asks the question Why would Barack Obama be friends with someone who bombed the Capitol and is proud of it?
Months ago, the Chicago papers called this a “phony charge.” They have no connection (Obama attended one reception at the guy’s house once, and has condemned what the guy did way back in the 60s, when Obama was 9 years old).
FACT: Barack Obama was eight years old when the Weathermen terrorist activities were occurring.
FACT: William Ayers was a member of the Weathermen. Since that time he has achieved enough respectability to become a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago.
FACT: Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia, and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and "passion for social justice
FACT: Obama was board chairman of the “Chicago Annenberg Challenge” for three years starting in 1995 and he remained on the board until the project closed in 2001. The project received a grant of $49.2 million which was the largest private gift ever made to Chicago schools. The money went to 250 schools in one of the nation's largest school districts.(Peter Yost , AP--Yahoo News, 8-19-08) (I think the Annenberg Challenge is the same as the Woods, Fund --ca) /news.yahoo.com/story/ap/20080819/ap_on_el_pr/obama_records>
FACT: Ayers served on that board with Obama, along with Republicans, bankers, lawyers, focused on education."
FACT: Ayers donated $200 to Obama’s re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001. And he had Obama and a group of Obama supporters at his house to “meet the candidate”.
FACT: The two men lived within a few blocks of each other in the Hyde Park section of Chicago.
Out of these facts the AIP has produced a political commercial which says that Obama and Ayers served together "on a left-wing board. and asks the question Why would Barack Obama be friends with someone who bombed the Capitol and is proud of it? Do you know enough to elect Barack Obama?" This ad is slated to air in Michigan and Ohio (and, of course may get national attention as the cable shows pick it up and show it.)
In April, Obama said he "deplored" Ayers' actions in the 1960s and that "by the time I met him, he [was] a professor of education at the University of Illinois. We served on a board together that had Republicans, bankers, lawyers, focused on education."
So these are obvious lies, just like John McCain said he’d condemn. But instead of condemning them, he repeated the attacks in his own campaign statements!
This is a shockingly dishonorable thing to do. And we’re just tired of it. Broken promises, lies, shadowy groups funded by billionaires, we need to get rid of all of it.
The only way to do that is to pass this along, tell everyone you know what John McCain is doing. We need to tell everyone what’s going on.
We need to have politicians that talk about us and how they can fix things, not talk about the latest lies and smears some shadowy group dredges up.
Let’s forward this along and get some truth back in this country.- stix213, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4"So these are obvious lies, just like John McCain said he’d condemn. But instead of condemning them, he repeated the attacks in his own campaign statements!"
Obvious lies? Please point out a single one? Ayers' memoirs are quite specific, and his current opinion of his terrorist acts have been widely reported even at the time Obama was on the same board as Ayers.
"FACT: Barack Obama was eight years old when the Weathermen terrorist activities were occurring."
So, if Hitler was still alive it would be OK to be best buds with him too, cause Obama wasn't alive yet so there shouldn't be a problem.... right.... How about Charlie Manson?
"FACT: William Ayers was a member of the Weathermen. Since that time he has achieved enough respectability to become a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago."
Except that in 2001 the NY Times quotes Ayers as saying "'I don't regret setting bombs... I feel we didn't do enough.'' While Obama continued his work with Ayers thinking nothing of it. Yeah he has some respect now, but it probably isn't a good idea to be friends with someone who still is proud of his terrorist acts when you are trying to be elected president.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0 ...
"FACT: Ayers served on that board with Obama, along with Republicans, bankers, lawyers, focused on education."
But none of them are running for the highest office on the planet right now... I wouldn't vote for anyone who would be on that board with Ayers, or would allow Ayers to organize political fundraisers/events. so what's your point?
I think you need to work on your logical thinking skills.
- stix213, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4"So these are obvious lies, just like John McCain said he’d condemn. But instead of condemning them, he repeated the attacks in his own campaign statements!"
- stix213, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1So where is the part where he responds to McCain's charges?
McCain says Obama hangs out with unapologetic terrorists, and then Obama says "I'm an 8 year old - Here look at this Bunny and forget about that Ayers guy! I was waaaayyyy too young to care about that at the time!" - nitrol3n3, on 08/27/2008, -0/+0First off. Barak Obama uses the race card just like my friend Lawrence who happens to be Black does. Playing the race card for things that just are not good to bring up when you are around people you don't know in a crowd for instance. Second. When I hear this term used over and over again about "Change", I feel a cry for help is being made to a certain group of folks that also "Cry for help" in their own lives. Democrats are users. Republicans are also tools but less than a Democrat who tells you he will steal money from your rich uncle and give it to you for benefits since you can't get off your lazy ass and either move to work (real challenge) or just try harder. Republicans at least are realists and not all of them are trying to mold you. Democrats and I mean all of them will try to mold you into their ways. See it every day on TV and online. Barak may not be a terrorist but he sure is someone like my friend Lawrence who looks me in the eye and lies about the poor litle white lady that bumped him only because HE is black. I don't hang out with him anymore. My life is better during social experiences.
- buddywlkr3, on 08/27/2008, -1/+1Why should McCain talk about Obama's past connections with radical, anti-US, anti-white people like Ayers and Reverend Wright and criminals like Tony Rezko? Why, doesn't McCain know that Obama says he is for "hope" and "change"? Doesn't he know that Obama made a speech in 2002? After all, what does judgment and past connections have to do with being President of the United States? Isn't it all about electing our first black President -- however radical, inexperienced and biased he might be? Isn't that the point?
- travtrk, on 08/30/2008, -0/+0the relationship with Ayers is bad.
but this is worse...
"We see evil, sadly, on the streets of our cities."
America is evil? he thinks like Osama!
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