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McCain Launches "Truth Squad" With Swift Boat Vet
huffingtonpost.com — McCain publicly deplored the Swift Boat ads back in 2004, saying they were reminiscent of the smear campaigns launched against him during his initial White House run in 2000.
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- SheilaNoya, on 06/30/2008, -14/+86Apparently, McCain doesn't give a damn about looking credible when his bogus "Truth Squad" spews out their twisted responses.
Oh well... at least they finally found someone who looks older than John McCain to back him up.- actorboy, on 06/30/2008, -15/+18Bud Day was McCain's cellmate in Vietnam and is one of the reasons McCain survived. It's really not surprising that he would stick up for him no matter what. You tend to form some pretty tight bonds in those situations.
More on Day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Day- pintomp3, on 07/01/2008, -6/+15you neglected to mention that bud day was part of the swift boat project, which mccain denounced. it's ironic to use him in the "truth squad".
- Halsfield, on 07/01/2008, -2/+9neglected to mention , except for the fact that he linked an entire wiki article about the guy. In the wiki page it states that he was in the swiftboats for truth.
- actorboy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+8@ pintomp3
I figured the big, fat "McCain Launches 'Truth Squad' With Swift Boat Vet" headline and related story took care of that. - hittnrun, on 07/01/2008, -11/+1Just because you liberal malcontents think the swift boat vets weren't being truthful, doesn't mean they weren't. The problem with libs is they have no ability for self examination. You recieve your talking points from huffnpuff and spread them around like a venereal disease.
- rossmcd, on 07/01/2008, -0/+9@hitnrun, regarding the truthfulness of the Swift Boat Vets
Summarized from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_Vets_and_POWs_f ...
Al French, one of the Vietnam veterans who gave a swon affidavit regarding John Kerry's behavior in battle later admitted that he had no first hand knowledge of the things he had previously sworn to. The statements of other Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were later found to contradict new and recorded statements from Vietcong witnessess at the battles in question. Steve Hayes, an early member of the group, eventually publicly broke with the group and voted for Kerry. His words: "It became clear to me that it was morphing from an organization to set the record straight into a highly political vendetta. They knew it was not the truth." - RungeKutta, on 07/01/2008, -0/+6@hittntun
You're either completely ignorant, or just as much of a lying bastard as the Rovians that devised the Swiftboaters smear campaign are.
Do you not think it was a little odd that they didn't show-up until Bush's military record was called into question? Wasn't it a bit suspicious that they went after every single aspect of Kerry's military career? It wasn't just something small like "well he was a desk clerk so he never even saw combat", but they even questioned his medals. You also don't think maybe they were a wee bit biased when there were people speaking out about him that had never served with him?
I'm not saying that serving the military is a necessary condition for being president, nor should someone receive priority over another because they were in the military. However the conservatives generally feel this way and that was exactly why Rove *had* to do something (from a conniving bastardly election pov) to help Bush with this. It doesn't matter how true it is, you just have to at least get people into the the "where there's smoke there's fire" mentality.
Come on, think a bit, or are you the tool that you're implying the "libs" are? - villageatheist, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1McCain: I'm gonna be president one day, if we get out of this prison cell. And you're gonna help me Bud.
Bud Day: Sure thing. I'd do anything for you.
....
McCain: Drop your pants.
- actorboy, on 07/01/2008, -8/+17Ha! Awesome. I'm being Dugg down for posting a mini-bio of Bud Day. Didn't take sides, just identified the guy. Only on Digg can you get a thumbs down for unbiased factoids.
- SheilaNoya, on 07/01/2008, -10/+8LOL
Not sure who is digging you down, but you broke the Cardinal Rule... you backed up what you said with actual facts! :-)
It's OK - I think most of us hardcore political junkies know you're one of the good guys. - Halsfield, on 07/01/2008, -6/+3i can sympathize with you, diggers are really disappointing lately.
- koft, on 07/01/2008, -6/+8The rule that he broke was bitching about a bury. It works like this, on any given comment, your comment will bob up and down randomly, if you bitch in the next comment about your previous comment getting a bury, everybody who doesn't just dismiss it buries both. The bitch post gets buried for breaking the rule and the other post gets buried for lolz. The random bury dip factor plus the lolz buries put his original comment past the general diggable threshold. When you get to that point, you're soaking up more buries just because it's down. The down and out bury has nothing to do with lolz, it's a spite zombie bury invoked by miserable diggers who have nothing better to do than follow the herd.
- rossmcd, on 07/01/2008, -4/+4Agreed w/ kroft ... I actually dug up your first comment, but its bad form to whine about buries. Just let the content of your comments speak for itself.
- Halsfield, on 07/02/2008, -0/+0the people that broke the "rules" of digg , were the ones who buried something that was helpful, informative, unaggressive/unassuming, and related to the article. Complaining about that is perfectly ok. Like he said, people on digg lately are burying whole pages of comments because they think its funny, bury brigade = makes me go elsewhere where people have all their brain cells firing.
- SheilaNoya, on 07/01/2008, -10/+8LOL
- chillypacman, on 07/01/2008, -6/+3"Because it's not spin if it's anti-conservative" (TM)
- rz8472, on 07/01/2008, -1/+6I remember the commercial they put out during the 2004 election. They openly and EXPLICITLY accused Kerry of working with North Vietnamese agents in order to change public opinion on the Vietnam War. Knowing that... I'd expect them to portray Obama as some sort of Muslim inner city (did I mention black?) gang drug dealer who is attracted to by more ways than one Ahmadinejad of Iran.
- withears, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3"Truth Squad" is about as accurate as the "Straight Talk Express"
- Halsfield, on 07/02/2008, -0/+0the sad thing is, in his earlier election try, the straight-talk express really was what it was called. He's sold out this election, possibly because telling the truth and being the nice guy didnt work.
- Pittance, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Not to mention that Clark's record isn't the topic. It's McCains. Clark could have been a full-fledge traitor and it still wouldn't have made his remarks invalid. His remarks still hold water. I could say it today and it would be just as true. Its just when a general says something about the military, people listen.
- staxofmax, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3FTA: "...General Clark spent a month in Vietnam, got badly wounded and was evacuated, that was his experience. I say let's hold the two of them up and compare them." -Bud Day
Yes, let's compare them. They both were awarded the silver star in Vietnam. General Clark was awarded 4 Legion of Merits to McCain's 1, Clark was awarded 2 Bronze Stars to McCain's 1, McCain was awarded a bunch of medals for being a POW, while Clark was awarded 7 Distinguished Service Medals, and Orders of Merit from Germany and France. General Clark went on to become Supreme Allied Commander Europe of Nato. McCain retired as a Captain.- Fordi, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1In addition, McCain's experience in Vietnam, while tragic, had nothing to do with leadership (the basic root of the job of President) - but a lot to do with personal survival. Just getting to 'General', as Clark did, is evidence of leadership ability; prior to General, you're at the 'Do What I Say' level of leadership. You don't get higher up without getting to the 'You want to do what I say' level.
- Halsfield, on 07/02/2008, -0/+0i disagree with that fordi, getting to higher ranks in the armed forces also has a lot to do with who you know, who you can get to make a commendation, and being a brown noser if necessary. There are plenty of generals out there that i fully respect, but there are just as many , just as in politics, that got there simply because they are buddies with the higher ups and know how to play the promotion game.
- Godlike, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Forget all this arguing over what he 'stands' for. Nothing. His old ass sits a lot and other people do ***** for him.
I can sum up the entirety of the modern neocon party with 9 words:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
- actorboy, on 06/30/2008, -15/+18Bud Day was McCain's cellmate in Vietnam and is one of the reasons McCain survived. It's really not surprising that he would stick up for him no matter what. You tend to form some pretty tight bonds in those situations.
- MadKennyP, on 06/30/2008, -9/+97Jim Rassman is a lifelong Republican whose life Kerry saved in Vietnam, said this about The Swift Boat Vets:
"Their new charges are false; their stories are fabricated, made up by people who did not serve with Kerry in Vietnam. They insult and defame all of us who served in Vietnam. Swift Boat Veterans for Bush should hang their heads in shame."
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.ht ...- Sogui, on 07/01/2008, -11/+4The Swift Boat Vets who made up stories about Kerry were deplorable, but there were other Vietnam Vets who hated Kerry for how he testified against fellow servicemen in Vietnam as "baby-killers", testimonies like Kerry's unintentionally led to things like our troops getting boo'd and spit on as they returned home.
Not saying Kerry was wrong for what he did, but I can see how Vietnam Vets would dislike him for what he did. Bud Day didn't pretend to be a Swift Boat veteran, he simply testified about his feelings toward Kerry and his treatment of fellow servicemen?- MadKennyP, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4I agree that many Vets were angry at Kerry for his testimony and his positions upon returning to the U.S., whether justified or not. But in my mind, that was a case of "shooting the messenger."
- noprtyaff, on 07/01/2008, -16/+3Truth or not, John Kerry has always been a flake. It is a shame that is the best the Democratic party could come up with in 2004. And now we have the Marxist Obama running for President, clearly a non-choice in November. And SBVT Bud Day says absolutely nothing about that? There is credibility for you. McCain and Clark as well, I wish they both would have stayed in the military where they were actually serving their country instead of selling it out.
- MalenfantX, on 07/01/2008, -0/+8Your post tells us a lot about you, and nothing about Kerry or Obama.
- Sogui, on 07/01/2008, -11/+4The Swift Boat Vets who made up stories about Kerry were deplorable, but there were other Vietnam Vets who hated Kerry for how he testified against fellow servicemen in Vietnam as "baby-killers", testimonies like Kerry's unintentionally led to things like our troops getting boo'd and spit on as they returned home.
- ssn697, on 06/30/2008, -8/+43The Truth Squad? Wasn't that a Saturday morning cartoon years ago?
Or:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Squad
Disney is going to be all up their ass!- gamekid, on 07/01/2008, -0/+7Still no word from the Mod Squad, Terror Squad, or Exosquad.
- blacula3000, on 07/01/2008, -1/+0thats some funny *****
- DevilDriver, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Dugg for Boo Boo Stewart
- danibobanny, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2Disney is in bed with the republican party. So, they might cut them some slack.
- soot, on 06/30/2008, -6/+57Of course, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth only love Republican war vets.
- DaDrake, on 07/01/2008, -20/+4Despite the fact the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth was comprised of many democrats, and the most outspoken ones (the ones on the video) were mostly life long democrats.
The reason for the attack was two folded. First, many felt Kerry served dishonorably by not properly earning metals and diminishing the importance of those medals for real heroes. Secondly, most of the swift vets were deeply hurt by the comments Kerry made after the war. Whatever the reason, the fact remains that Kerry pissed off most of the men he served with.
Kerry mistake was running on his war record. Bush also has an equally non-inspiring service record but Bush didn't promote it (And didn't spend million on TV ads to highlight how he was once a soldier). If Kerry didn't highlight his disputed military record, the swift vets attacks would have met death ears.
So yea... this is why MANY democrats (including Dean) blame Kerry for loosing the election. His mistake was running on his war record.- hipnerd, on 07/01/2008, -1/+17"Despite the fact the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth was comprised of many democrats, and the most outspoken ones (the ones on the video) were mostly life long democrats."
That is simply not true. Please name the soldiers who were "lifelong Democrats" and members of Swiftboat Veterans for Truth.
"The reason for the attack was two folded. First, many felt Kerry served dishonorably by not properly earning metals and diminishing the importance of those medals for real heroes."
No members of Swiftboat Veterans for Truth were aboard Kerry's boat during any of the incidents for which he was decorated. Of those who served in Kerry's boat crew, only Stephen Gardner joined SBVT.[18] He was not present on any of the occasions when Kerry won his medals, including his Purple Hearts. Gardner appeared in two of the group's television advertisements.
All other living members of Kerry's crew supported his presidential bid, and some frequently campaigned with him as his self-described 'band of brothers'. Kerry crewmembers have disputed some of SBVT's various allegations: "totally false" (Drew Whitlow), "garbage" (Gene Thorson), and "a pack of lies" (Del Sandusky).
"Secondly, most of the swift vets were deeply hurt by the comments Kerry made after the war. Whatever the reason, the fact remains that Kerry pissed off most of the men he served with."
Closer to the truth. Kerry's vocal antiwar efforts after returning stateside did anger some vets. But as has been mentioned, Kerry did not "piss off most of the men he served with." Far from it. The people who actually served on his boat almost unanimously supported him and verified that he deserved his medals and was a capable leader in Vietnam.
The one exception was Stephen Gardner, who was not present at any of the incidents when Kerry earned his medals.
"Kerry mistake was running on his war record. Bush also has an equally non-inspiring service record but Bush didn't promote it (And didn't spend million on TV ads to highlight how he was once a soldier). If Kerry didn't highlight his disputed military record, the swift vets attacks would have met death ears."
Kerry's record was never disputed until it was politically advantageous for Bush's surrogates to do so. Bush's camp was willing to drag a decorated veteran's name through the mud in order to win an election. And to compare Kerry's honorable and courageous service in Vietnam to Bush's AWOL status from the Texas Air Guard is insulting.
Kerry was a war hero. In the black-is-white, up-is-down world of Republican politics, the fact that the war hero was a Democrat made it OK to trash his reputation while sticking up for a borderline deserter with a vice president who got five different deferments to avoid serving his country. - FredFredrickson, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3It's 'medals' you dumb *****.
- MrWhite7, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3and things fall on deaf ears, not death ears.
- villageatheist, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3DaDrake just got destroyed.
- hipnerd, on 07/01/2008, -1/+17"Despite the fact the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth was comprised of many democrats, and the most outspoken ones (the ones on the video) were mostly life long democrats."
- DaDrake, on 07/01/2008, -20/+4Despite the fact the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth was comprised of many democrats, and the most outspoken ones (the ones on the video) were mostly life long democrats.
- barbiesnow, on 06/30/2008, -6/+44Surprise surpise, didn't you think that the Repubs would not "use" the same people and tactics that they used to sink Kerry...TRUTH? my A..
- musicisourhigh, on 06/30/2008, -8/+36Why fill your TRUTH SQUAD with liars? I'm scratching my head over this.
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I mean, its funny, and the timing was perfect-
but when its on a shirt on two different ads on this page,
i get tired of looking at it.
edit: yes i have adblock plus, but im at work.
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1I'm so sick of this *****.
- Saikou, on 07/01/2008, -1/+0Lairs are on the Truth Squad because there are a lot of old guard repubs who lap up lies like cats do cream.
"If'n it's on the fancy TV Box-emerator, why, it just has to be true! Fauxnews is a "fair and balanced." Ethel, where are my teeth?- ironiridis, on 07/01/2008, -0/+0I'm on your side, don't doubt that, but stupid ad hominem makes us all look bad. Please knock it off.
- compu73rg33k, on 07/01/2008, -3/+10. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ___________
- Stevanoski, on 07/01/2008, -27/+10There is still a 1 million dollar reward for any who can prove the Swift Boaters lied. Has anyone won it?
- yakski, on 07/01/2008, -7/+23The cowardly retardian who put up the prize refuses to pay even though it has been completely proven that the swift boaters lied out their traitorous mouths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
- Stevanoski, on 07/01/2008, -20/+9Reckon the courts see it the other way.
- yakski, on 07/01/2008, -4/+22Hardly... moron.. it is not even in the courts ...
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/06/john ...
that says it all ......... cowardly swift boat vets........... - DuggDowner, on 07/01/2008, -3/+9Reckon there was no lawsuit retard.
- ethornquist, on 07/01/2008, -2/+13Uh, did you see the quotes from Jim Rassman? Are you reading anything or just trolling?
Come on Stevanoski, tell the truth. How much are you getting paid to be a GOP stooge
and troll on Digg?
Tell me the price you get paid. If the price is right I will consider joining ya . . . ; ) - swrostmore, on 07/01/2008, -1/+19In 2004, Kerry took T. Boone up on his offer and Boone refused to honor the deal. More recently (within the past month) a group of Kerry's crewmates sent a letter to Pickens accepting the challenge and provided documentation. Predictably, Boone once again weaseled his way out of paying up.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/lat ...
"I guess now we know the 'T' in T. Boone doesn't stand for 'truth,' " said Del Sandusky, one of the crewmen. "I really hoped we could've taken him at his word. ... We won't rest until he admits the truth that he bankrolled a big lie." - DaDrake, on 07/01/2008, -9/+2From what I understand, they really didn't offer any new evidence that would dispute the words of the majority of people Kerry served with. The reward was pointless since its not like there were CCTV in the middle of the Vietnam War.
Finally, historians have noted that metals, after the Korean war, were given out more numerously for less life-debilitating acts. Giving out metals, during an unpopular war, was a way to ensure soldiers felt committed to the mission (even tho they were drafted). In WW1 and WW2, it would take the accounts of many men to earn someone a distinguished metal. In wars during the cold war, commanders were encourage to report valor (and it was always rewarded with some metal).- Wartyboskfapped, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4'metals'? WTF?
- bjornski, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3I agree, Warty.
I normally give most grammar/spelling errors a break.
But THIS was just pathetic. - jackieblu, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2There is a 5 mil bounty on bin laden, as anyone claimed it yet? He ain't in Iraq!
- tkstock, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2Com'on Warty and bjornski - they are MADE of medal, I mean metal... ;)
- ironiridis, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2I was going to say, "Look, if you don't know what you're talking about, take your ***** fingers off of the keys." ... but then I realized I was on the Internet. Obviously you can be an expert at anything if nobody knows who you are.
- yakski, on 07/01/2008, -7/+23The cowardly retardian who put up the prize refuses to pay even though it has been completely proven that the swift boaters lied out their traitorous mouths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
- JustHisWords, on 07/01/2008, -4/+9http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/21/stil ...
http://firedoglake.com/2007/11/16/john-kerry-to-sw ...
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20080622/n ... - NoDrama, on 07/01/2008, -2/+27McCain gets a pass from the press because his funding sources insure there will be lots of advertising bought. The media isn't interested in accuracy or fairness, they are all about selling ads - so the race MUST be "close" according to their need to protect their bottom line, and they are not going to look closely at the goose that lays golden eggs so long as they get their cut.
It's a disgrace to suggest that what's happening is journalism in the old sense, it's all about money. http://obamesque.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/conflict ...- LKnight, on 07/01/2008, -1/+8Well of course it's about money... it's always about money. When McCain found an oil well blowing greenbacks into his campaign he immediately started buying ads, and that's what the media wants to do, sell ads.
It's so rare that people act selflessly that we hardly recognize it when it happens. - PuterPrsn, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1McCain isn't the one with the endless coffers - he has voluntarily put a cap on his spending by using prublic funding. Obama is the one who has reneged on his vow to use public money, and he's the one who will have the extra $$ to spend on newspapers and TV ads.
You're skewing the facts ... again
- LKnight, on 07/01/2008, -1/+8Well of course it's about money... it's always about money. When McCain found an oil well blowing greenbacks into his campaign he immediately started buying ads, and that's what the media wants to do, sell ads.
- 03FightOn, on 07/01/2008, -23/+3lol.....x-mas in cambodia.......really?
5000 meters of gun fire? 3 bullet holes?
After action report......from the ship that Kerry returned to after the mission....no other boats present...
Say where are Kerry's medals?.....not over the fence.....
Tell us again about taking red tracer fire......seared he said...
But hey, he did take a piece of rice in the ASS....- madfrogurt, on 07/01/2008, -1/+12What is with crazy internet people and their use of ellipses and disjointed thoughts? Does zealous belief coincide with mild schizophrenia or something?
- bjornski, on 07/01/2008, -1/+5Don't insult schizophrenics like that....
- madfrogurt, on 07/01/2008, -1/+12What is with crazy internet people and their use of ellipses and disjointed thoughts? Does zealous belief coincide with mild schizophrenia or something?
- cnot3, on 07/01/2008, -4/+9Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Service guarantees citizenship!
- MysticKatDaddy, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1It's too bad US citizenship and the right to vote don't have to be earned for people born in the US. I would be for only granting citizenship to anyone who wants to come here or is born here and works for the government for 2 to 4 years; military service during wartime and the option of civil or military service during peacetime. Of course you would get a place to live, food, clothes, medical care etc for the duration but little or no pay.
- FredFredrickson, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I'd say that anyone without a high school education doesn't deserve to vote, because they don't have the capacity to understand the issues.
- MrWhite7, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Only problem with that mstic is you have to find jobs for everyone that way. Government is bloated enough for my taste.
- cnot3, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1OK, Robert Heinlein.
- MysticKatDaddy, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1It's too bad US citizenship and the right to vote don't have to be earned for people born in the US. I would be for only granting citizenship to anyone who wants to come here or is born here and works for the government for 2 to 4 years; military service during wartime and the option of civil or military service during peacetime. Of course you would get a place to live, food, clothes, medical care etc for the duration but little or no pay.
- cindywren, on 07/01/2008, -3/+15I think McCain knows that his military record before being captured and after returning from Vietnam are not stellar. He has not released his military records. But we do know that he graduated 894th in his class out of 899 from the U.S. Naval Academy and after he returned from Vietnam, crashed 5 planes. There was no way he would go on to become a four-star general like his father and grandfather. He was reckless. He used his war hero status and connections that came from that status to get into politics. Now he's using it to get elected President.
Creating this shows he knows there's dirt on him he doesn't want people to know about.- rewinn, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1It's best not to attack McCain's service record since, although it's clear he used nepotism to get one of the highly valued pilot berths, his POW time makes him basically attack-proof. Fair? not fair? Who cares, that's the way humans work.
He's highly vulnerable on real issues, e.g. his temper and Iraq. Leave Vietnam alone - MrWhite7, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1his father and grandfather were admirals.
- PuterPrsn, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Untrue - his military records are open. You need to do your own research and not fall back on things from other threads.
- rewinn, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1It's best not to attack McCain's service record since, although it's clear he used nepotism to get one of the highly valued pilot berths, his POW time makes him basically attack-proof. Fair? not fair? Who cares, that's the way humans work.
- ethornquist, on 07/01/2008, -2/+16Dugg for its hypocritical funniness.
- pintomp3, on 07/01/2008, -0/+8the fact that it works is anything but funny.
- exspasticcomics, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4it's extremely funny in my opinion. not only for 'hypocritical funniness' but also as what could likely be viewed as his first real -post primary election move. i mean- here's a guy who has flimsy support from the hardcore republicans because he's spent too many years supporting bipartisan bills in congress (ie- he works with the democrats too much..) -then turns around & supports the war with iraq & (possible..) war with iran (thus losing any credibility he may gained from supporting all those democratic bills..from the democrats..) next- he proves hands down that he is absolutely useless when it comes to public speech & debate & if you pair him up in a debate against Obama- he's going to make himself look like an absolute retard- his current move is to resort to hardcore goon tactics that basically demonized hillary- after this I imagine his next move will be to renounce the christian right & convert to Islam. --BUT DON'T GET ME WRONG!! I THINK HE CAN WIN! because their are some paranoid idiots running around out there right now.
- LeifEriksen, on 07/01/2008, -2/+1If McCain is such a retard why wouldn't Obama agree to townhall meetings with him? Obama is worthless without his precious teleprompter and speech writers. He's a fantasy candidate made up by the Left to cure their white guilt. He's never taken a tough political stand on anything in his life but for that speech he made over 5 years against the Iraq war when he was State Senator and no one was listening and we still can't get him to stop dragging that out on the campaign stump.
- renegadeafk, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Because McCain's "town hall meetings" are staged.
- exspasticcomics, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1to quote liefEriksen-
"If McCain is such a retard why wouldn't Obama agree to townhall meetings with him? Obama is worthless without his precious teleprompter and speech writers. He's a fantasy candidate made up by the Left to cure their white guilt"
sounds like a paranoid conspiracy theory to me! who 'made him up.' who's 'wagging the dog' in this on this one? possibly-- he's an agent of moveon.org & fox news? -a hologram perhaps? LOL....
paranoia indeed- sir... if obama is full of hot air- i'm sure at the end of the day- it's his OWN hot air & not someone else's also- you mistaken me for an obama supporter.. i am not an obama supporter- i'm a guy who has to make a choose between 2 people who managed to make it out of the trenches & have the likeliest chance of becoming president-
one guy (McCain) tells me flat out that he's going to do stupid.. stupid.. things.
the other guy (Obama) says he's going to fix everything- but might be talking out of his @$$.
the worst thing that could happen if i pick McCain is- he'll do all the stupid crap he says he wants to do in the first place.
the worst thing that could happen if i pick Obama is- he won't do ANYTHING he says he's going to do- & just end up doing all the stupid crap McCain said he was going to do in the first place.
hey- i'm a realistic optimist- i'll take my chances. who knows? maybe Obama will actually try & do one or 2 of the things he's been blabbing about.
as for the town hall meeting thing- who the hell really cares? lol- like anybody could answer a question like "how would you solve the health care crisis in America?" in under 2 minutes or less. & television is for people with attention span deficits...
- pintomp3, on 07/01/2008, -0/+8the fact that it works is anything but funny.
- madfrogurt, on 07/01/2008, -3/+5Do you think they'll ever use the gerund "Swift Boating" when describing themselves?
- GTKashi, on 07/01/2008, -1/+13Remember "truth, justice, and the American way?"
Sad to say, one of these things is not like the others.- Barackalypse, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Oh oh, I guess American way, which lately has been to abandon truth, justice, and individual liberty and replace it with an ever larger federal government.
- SaMdeR, on 07/01/2008, -10/+1MAC IS BACK!
- herbertstrasse, on 07/01/2008, -2/+1yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw
- Murrabbit, on 07/01/2008, -2/+11Jeeze, and I used to think that Hillary was an unprincipled political robot who would say or do anything to get elected. This new John McCain is just trampling everything the old principled McCain ever stood for.
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1i dont know if it would be a "new" McCain.
its like the Older McCain is just trampling everything the Old principled McCain stood for.
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1i dont know if it would be a "new" McCain.
- MrTito, on 07/01/2008, -4/+9Swift Boat Veterans for Truth? Truth Squad? Truth... will someone send this memo to the Republicans?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
[Not a Rick Roll]- ironiridis, on 07/01/2008, -1/+0Totally a rick roll. ;)
- Wartyboskfapped, on 07/01/2008, -3/+12John McCain is a hypocrite.
- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1You don't know anything about the man. Let me guess, you got all your information on the websites with the cheap Viagra ads on the side and the background of the website was probably... pink and the author probably had no references to his claims.
- dunderballer, on 07/01/2008, -0/+9Isn't McCain threatened by having another man qualified to be president on his team since Bud Day was a POW? Bud Day 08!
Day looks younger. He may not have as much experience. - Halsfield, on 07/01/2008, -2/+22I stuck up for mccain at the beginning of the primaries because back in 2000/2004 he was all about speaking the truth, sticking up for the lower man, and made a couple of really laid back appearances on the daily show and jon stewart said he should come over the to democrats. He really reminded me of ron paul in this election, the one republican that i wouldnt mind voting for.
Now he's slashing and burning his way through the image he built up back then, he's nothing but the worst kind of sell-out hypocrite now. I have to believe he's doing it because he wants to win the presidency at any cost since telling the truth and being a stand up guy didnt help him in the past, but i dont really believe that.- phrenzy, on 07/01/2008, -5/+4I'm an O supporter, and to be fair, he is starting to do similar *****. I agree with Obama more than McCain and think he will be much better for the country - but it is pretty obvious they are both in "Say anything to win" mode.
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3or "decide not to say things" mode
as in playing it safe and being careful not to step on peoples toes who you adamantly opposed a few weeks earlier. - tkstock, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Those are some accurate observations.
It seems McCain is still trying to please everyone he can and Obama is still trying to please the middle.
The problem is no one agrees on everything, and you're going to step on toes, and those people will scream.
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3or "decide not to say things" mode
- nascentia, on 07/01/2008, -0/+13I'll admit, I used to like McCain a lot. He was definitely conservative in some big areas, but he used to stick to his beliefs, even if no one agreed with him. He -used- to be somewhat close to a "true" independent, in that he didn't always stick with either party. And Straight Talk did -used- to mean something.
Not anymore. He's definitely sold-out completely for this election, and I think it's obvious to any one of any party.
I think it's very telling that a lot of vote-the-line Republicans absolutely hate McCain. - Terr01, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I think a lot of it is situational. Perhaps his old stances worked in his old constituency in old elections.
McCain simply knows he won't have a chance of winning based on his old "maverick" stances, so now he's flip-flopping on things.
Unfortunately, with Presidencies often being two-term, he cannot flip back after being elected, so the comparatively hard-right McCain we see now is probably what we'd continue to get if he gets elected.- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I'd still think you people are jumping to conclusions about his conscious that can never be proved. Ask your self this, Do you feel safer having the dreamy messiah Obama as your next president or the battle hardened, not-so-dreamy, realist McCain as your president? I'm just scared Obama is going to go skipping off with some I.E.D. filled terrorist without even knowing it and get a bunch of people killed.
- Halsfield, on 07/02/2008, -0/+0meth is a terrible drug...
on a more serious note frontalpha, that made absolutely no sense. - Terr01, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1frontalpha: No, jumping to psychoanalytic conclusions would be to ascribe McCain's behavior as his "true nature" and crap like that. Even worse when someone tries to psychoanalyze an entire group "Those damn liberals/conservatives, they all believe..."
Explainint his behavior to pragmatic choices faced by a politician seeking election? Extremely tame and supportable by comparison.
But then you go on to tell me to ask myself about "dreamy messiah Obama".
Now *THAT* is jumping to conclusions about someone's consciousness which can never be proved, isn't it?
- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I'd still think you people are jumping to conclusions about his conscious that can never be proved. Ask your self this, Do you feel safer having the dreamy messiah Obama as your next president or the battle hardened, not-so-dreamy, realist McCain as your president? I'm just scared Obama is going to go skipping off with some I.E.D. filled terrorist without even knowing it and get a bunch of people killed.
- phrenzy, on 07/01/2008, -5/+4I'm an O supporter, and to be fair, he is starting to do similar *****. I agree with Obama more than McCain and think he will be much better for the country - but it is pretty obvious they are both in "Say anything to win" mode.
- dunderballer, on 07/01/2008, -2/+10When people point out what a lying piece of scum Day is for the spreading lies about Kerry with a bunch of other vets who never served with Kerry, the media will act as if it is off limits to question a decorated POW, war hero on something related to the military. It worked yesterday for McCain and it will work tomorrow for Day.
- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1ha ha I'm sorry but just look at Kerry. He probably thought the swift boat he was on was a pleasure yacht.
- PubeStache, on 07/01/2008, -2/+18Being a POW makes you a war hero?
- bjornski, on 07/01/2008, -1/+13Lots of war heroes in Guantanamo then.
- Terr01, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Or some might be, if we'd follow the law and put them in a POW designation or under the legal court system rather than inventing entirely new kangaroo courts and classifications out of thin air.
'Course, most folks in Guantanamo are picked up on dubious tips or from bounty hunters and tribal warlords and an alarming number have been released without charged. (Alarming because if they are innocent, why are we taking years of their lives? If they're not, why are they being freed?)
- Terr01, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Or some might be, if we'd follow the law and put them in a POW designation or under the legal court system rather than inventing entirely new kangaroo courts and classifications out of thin air.
- edniceville, on 07/01/2008, -2/+3No, being a man who saved many of his comrades lives before he became a POW won him the Congressional Medal of Honor (our nation's highest award, and generally given posthumously), makes him a hero.
- kalderon, on 07/01/2008, -2/+1The fact a comment like this would be buried guarantees that one can't take this site seriously anymore.
It's biased ***** like this that makes this a nice field for liberal sheeple rather than a popular news site.
I'm a democrat, and consider myself liberal, but I also consider myself an independent thinker.
On another note...
I understand that sensationalist garbage is hard to pick out at times, but rest assured, The Huffington Post is truly some biased trash.
Many of us on Digg completely hate Fox News, yes? Well, The Huffington Post is the same thing, but in reverse. Low blows, cheap tactics, and comments taken out of context with little to no credibility.
Stop digging posts like this, and do yourself and actually read what some people type when they disagree with you, rather than shielding your eyes and mashing bury like idiots. - Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3Okay, first of all.
Huffpost is biased. this is true. But its not even CLOSE to Fox News as far as the amount of ***** that is spewed, or the amount of damaged that is caused.
Huffpost may have slightly biased articles, but Faux news is often just complete lies or sensationalist reports that are intended to make people believe things that are untrue.
and besides all that, Fox news has way more viewers..WAY more, so the amount of damage that Fox news causes to our society is WAY worse then anything Huffpost could do. - PubeStache, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Ah I see. It just seems the story always goes from him being a pow right to being called a war hero. Not really any mention of the Medal of Honor. Unless of course I skipped over it.
My father is a Nam vet so I know of the s*** they went through.
- kalderon, on 07/01/2008, -2/+1The fact a comment like this would be buried guarantees that one can't take this site seriously anymore.
- bjornski, on 07/01/2008, -1/+13Lots of war heroes in Guantanamo then.
- e36wheelman, on 07/01/2008, -17/+4Huffington Post= Buried. I'm so sick of Digg shoving Arianna's ***** down my throat.
But I guess if you have to read an article about spin, why can't it be written by one of the kings of spin?- IJstickI, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3i thought only fox did that!?!!?! oh wait im not a completely ignorant digg liberal. this ***** makes me sick.
- AsylumAleikum, on 07/01/2008, -11/+4He...He...He... By publicly attacking McCain's military record, Wesley Clark gave him an opening to launch a truth squad. Keep talking, Wesley, you stupid moron!
- bjornski, on 07/01/2008, -1/+7And he can disprove Clark by highlighting what he did RIGHT in the military.
Everyone knows about his POW status and plane crashes.
But what did he do RIGHT?
Bottom 1% of the class? AWESOME! Let's elect him!
We saw just what a privileged low-grade student did with this country.
LET'S DO IT AGAIN!
- bjornski, on 07/01/2008, -1/+7And he can disprove Clark by highlighting what he did RIGHT in the military.
- JoeVet, on 07/01/2008, -3/+5McCain adopts more of Bush's tactics and loses the remainder of his reputation. He disavowed this type of low slander when Bush used it against Kerry and now he happily adopts the same disgusting tactics. You want four more years of Bush then McCain is your man. There is no right wing sleaze he won't stoop to in order to gain the presidency. He can no longer call himself the maverick or use the term straight talk express. His new moniker is hypocrite and right wing panderer.
- Sogui, on 07/01/2008, -9/+6George Everett "Bud" Day (born February 24, 1925) is a former U.S. Air Force pilot who served during the Vietnam War. He is often cited as being the most decorated U.S. service member since General Douglas MacArthur, having received some seventy decorations, a majority for actions in combat. Day is a recipient of the Medal of Honor.
....
Day was on his 65th mission and acting as check pilot for Capt. Kippenham, who was flying as aircraft commander for the first time. 37mm antiaircraft fire crippled the aircraft, forcing the crew to eject. In the ejection, Day's right arm was broken in three places when he struck the side of the cockpit, and he also experienced eye and back injuries.
Kippenham was rescued, but Day was unable to contact the rescue helicopter by survival radio and was quickly captured by North Vietnamese local militia. On his fifth night, when he was still within twenty miles of the DMZ, Day escaped from his initial captors despite his serious injuries. Although stripped of both his boots and flight suit, Day crossed the Demilitarized Zone back into South Vietnam, becoming the only U.S. prisoner to escape from North Vietnam. Within two miles of the U.S. Marine firebase at Con Thien and after 12-15 days of evading, he was captured again, this time by a Viet Cong patrol that wounded him in the leg and hand with gunfire.
Taken back to his original camp, Day was tortured for escaping, breaking his right arm again. He then was moved to several prison camps near Hanoi, where he was periodically beaten, starved, and tortured. In December 1967 Day shared a cell with Navy Lt. Cmdr. John S. McCain III who was even more seriously injured and emaciated. Air Force Major Norris Overly nursed both back to life, and McCain later devised a makeshift splint of bamboo and rags that helped heal Day's seriously atrophied arm.
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What a jerk.- kalderon, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Why is this being buried? If this is accurate, this man is more of a hero than 90% of the jackasses we see every day on the television that appear as military experts, or consultants, or whatever.
As for the ending comment, it's sarcasm. Think before burying something.- rewinn, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3Because Day could be the Second Coming Of Christ Himself, but he lied as a Swift Boatsman and he's using Vietnam as a political tool.
Yes, he's a jerk.
He may be a tough and brave jerk but so what? - Godlike, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Who gives a ***** what he thinks? Why would anyone care? So you went to war, big deal. You are not the first.
Try getting your cable installed in the midwestern US sometime, then you can talk to me about hell. - Sogui, on 07/02/2008, -1/+1Show me where Day "lied" about anything involving Kerry's service? 99% of Digg doesn't even know what he's said.
- rewinn, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3Because Day could be the Second Coming Of Christ Himself, but he lied as a Swift Boatsman and he's using Vietnam as a political tool.
- kalderon, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Why is this being buried? If this is accurate, this man is more of a hero than 90% of the jackasses we see every day on the television that appear as military experts, or consultants, or whatever.
- walnoj, on 07/01/2008, -3/+15So we can assume that the name of this squad should be "Anything But the Truth Squad", right?
- halfdollar, on 07/01/2008, -12/+2Oh god...Another McCain attack from Ms. Stassinopoulos? Will somebody digg up Zorba and get this woman laid so she shuts up?
- Suricou, on 07/01/2008, -1/+9McCain is good at manipulating, and people are shallow.
McCain's military record has somehow become a vital campaign issue, but what is it's significence really? The election is for president. Military competance shows the ability to follow orders, to weild a gun. It shows physical endurance, courage in the face of personal danger. All of which may be admirable in a soldier, but they are completly useless skills for a president. We wouldn't send a diplomat into battle, so why do people want to take his fighting ability into account for a management job?
People are stupid, espicially in large numbers. McCain's appeal to blind patriotism ("I suffered for this country, so I deserve your support!") is underhanded and manipulative, but I suspect also highly effective.- geoboy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1"I suffered for this country, so I deserve your support!"
I never realized it until now... McCain is America's Jesus! He suffered for our sins!- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I think Obama has claimed the title of "Messiah." If you got locked up and got the hell kicked out of you for a year would you have some wisdom and knowledge that you would want to share with the community? I sure would.
- geoboy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1"I suffered for this country, so I deserve your support!"
- sathias, on 07/01/2008, -1/+13Why is it that whenever someone uses the word "truth" in the title of something, you just know you are going to get lies and spin of the worst kind?
- Barackalypse, on 07/01/2008, -3/+1For the same reason that guys who are always talking about change actually vote with the majority of their party 96.5% of the time?
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/member ...- Nanite, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2I have come to the conclusion that you are secretly gay for obama. Why else would you spend your entire life coming down on a guy you hardly know unless you hate him because of the confusing feelings he gives you deep down inside?
All of your acting out makes sense now. - Godlike, on 07/01/2008, -0/+196.5% of statistics are made up on the spot.
- Nanite, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2I have come to the conclusion that you are secretly gay for obama. Why else would you spend your entire life coming down on a guy you hardly know unless you hate him because of the confusing feelings he gives you deep down inside?
- FredFredrickson, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Because if someone is really honest and just, they don't need to tell you - their record stands for itself.
- smotpoker1, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Because a republican can not tell the truth.It's breed out of them with all the inbreeding.
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1bred out with inbreeding?
you must be poking some good smot
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1bred out with inbreeding?
- Barackalypse, on 07/01/2008, -3/+1For the same reason that guys who are always talking about change actually vote with the majority of their party 96.5% of the time?
- rexblade, on 07/01/2008, -0/+4LOL From the makers of the "Straight Talk Express" we now present the "Truth Squad"! Because the NWO NEEDS John McCain! If the rumors Ive heard of Hilary and Bill holding the CIA documents detailing his days at the Hanoi hilton are real they can let those out anytime now.
- AKATSAKE, on 07/01/2008, -5/+4I'm going to start a punk band and call it SMEAR MERCHANT
- cubedw00t, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3Who comes up with these geriatric phrases.
"Straight Talk Express" having to do with coal-powered trains?
"Truth Squad" hippies...?
"Cindy's Scallywags" ..... pirates....? rebels? - h0stile17, on 07/01/2008, -12/+7Boy....Arriana Huffington's website sure seems fair and balanced.
- jzuska, on 07/01/2008, -11/+6Huffington's website looks more and more like the Daily mail with each passing pro-Obama day.
- edniceville, on 07/01/2008, -2/+0what did you expect? She is an angry Liberal who, like other Liberals, wants everyone to be unhappy and for her to be one of the few rich people. She thinks everyone should pay more taxes (except her), drive fuel efficient hybrids (except her), and use mercury laden cfc light bulbs (except her). And you expect her to be "fair and balanced"?
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1cfc?
wtf are you smoking son?
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1cfc?
- FredFredrickson, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Do you ever stop to think that maybe it's not just propaganda? Or do you just label it as such because you don't agree with it?
- edniceville, on 07/01/2008, -2/+0what did you expect? She is an angry Liberal who, like other Liberals, wants everyone to be unhappy and for her to be one of the few rich people. She thinks everyone should pay more taxes (except her), drive fuel efficient hybrids (except her), and use mercury laden cfc light bulbs (except her). And you expect her to be "fair and balanced"?
- jackieblu, on 07/01/2008, -8/+1McCain said Bud stated McCain was the best man he served under. That just means "the Mav" was on top.
- neurosine, on 07/01/2008, -0/+10If he has to work this hard to promote his credibility, we have to question it.
- edniceville, on 07/01/2008, -1/+0And because all of a sudden Obama is wearing a flag lapel pin, and says he has always loved his country, we are supposed to believe he is a patriot? Because he has not publicly denounced Israel lately, we are supposed to believe he is a support of the Israelis as well, I suppose. YOU need to get a grip, neurosine!
- bdorry, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1What does a flag lapel pin have to do with this? In your fervent conservative rage you neglected to realize that you are comparing apples and oranges, perhaps you could whip up a valid counter argument if you calmed down a bit?
- Codwhy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1yeah edniceville,
Mccain calling his wife a ***** definitely showed his love for his country and fellow human being.
- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1You could say the same for Obama could you.
- edniceville, on 07/01/2008, -1/+0And because all of a sudden Obama is wearing a flag lapel pin, and says he has always loved his country, we are supposed to believe he is a patriot? Because he has not publicly denounced Israel lately, we are supposed to believe he is a support of the Israelis as well, I suppose. YOU need to get a grip, neurosine!
- BaudiIROCZ, on 07/01/2008, -1/+6I wonder if McCain knows the meaning of the word truth. Maybe Cindy can google it for him since we know he can't do it himself.
- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1And I hope you know the meaning of "credibility" from the information you're basing your claims from.
- LukasSmith, on 07/01/2008, -12/+4We need a "truth squad" for Obama. Too few people realize what a sham he is. I was just reading this morning he wants to expand on religious initiatives that Bush started. Can Obama pander to the Religious Right? Yes HE can. Amazing how slowly the truth about this guy is getting out. Anyone else notice how careful and scripted everything about his campaign is? He asks you to vote for him but who are we voting for? I still don't know.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080701/ap_on_el_pr/ob ...- Nanite, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Fortunately there isn't any interest in what you're selling, chief. No one supports Swift Boating as a legitimate campaign strategy any more. And people like you who engage in this type of behavior are finally seen for who they are: political hacks and miscreants of the worst kind. Enjoy your irrelevancy as Obama is welcomed into office in November.
- LukasSmith, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1ahahah. Welcome to blind sheep at digg.com. No obama fanatic supports me. Why am I surprised? especially on a discussion site festering with them? Lets stop pretending you are anything but partisan. Don't be as false as your master Obama.
- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I couldn't have said it better LukasSmith. All the bashing about the "Truth Squad" could be thrown back at Obama tenfold... with credibility.
digg.
- portnoy, on 07/01/2008, -0/+5How does having another president that owes his entire career to his family instead of hard work and good grades equate any kind of change from the past two terms? And has anyone verified that McCain was actually shot down and not simply crashed was apparently his 'special talent'?
And even the North Vietnamese tried to send him away but he wouldn't leave? Yeah, that's who I want to lead the recovery from the disaster that has been the Bush administration. :P - SicKiller, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3This Anti-McCain shirt is perfect -
http://www.tshirtinferno.com/node/49 - Evilena, on 07/01/2008, -0/+6The Ministry of Truth would be a much better name.
- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Harry Potter fan?
- Evilena, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I have to ask...
Do you really think The Ministry of Truth was in the Harry Potter books or is this your way of rewriting old stories in keeping with current ideology?
War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. - frontalpha, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1Haha I was just being dum.
- Evilena, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I have to ask...
- frontalpha, on 07/01/2008, -1/+1Harry Potter fan?
- IJstickI, on 07/01/2008, -8/+3i love how you digg liberals get all over fox being biased and so on, yet you constantly digg huffingtonpost, a flaming liberal site with ZERO credibility. your lover barack might even think this site is just a joke...although he is a Marxist
- sandiegodude, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2You just bring up credibility, then follow with a slander ("your lover") followed by calling Mr. Obama a Marxist...
Got any proof since you're so hard up on "credibility?"
- sandiegodude, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2You just bring up credibility, then follow with a slander ("your lover") followed by calling Mr. Obama a Marxist...
- ProUSADigger, on 07/01/2008, -9/+3Huffington Post...buried.
Seriously, diggers?- Nanite, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1blocked for annoying bitching
- Dralha, on 07/01/2008, -1/+7A "truth squad" -- to reinforce the lies.
- djmollusk, on 07/01/2008, -3/+7POW = Mission Failed. There is your summary
- HiCaP, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I like to see you have the Balls to say that to some POWs, no matter their age.
But a lowlife POS coward like you would run and hide.
- HiCaP, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I like to see you have the Balls to say that to some POWs, no matter their age.
- edniceville, on 07/01/2008, -6/+1The Huffington Post would not be fit for a birdcage liner if it were in print.
- stealthalbino, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Unless they're just blantantly lying about their service records, there shouldn't be any reason for this campaign of truth. The senseless bickering is just more slop for the media to chew on.
- FredFredrickson, on 07/01/2008, -1/+5I'm not going to say who you SHOULD support, but anyone who supports Republicans in the upcoming election ought to have their goddamned head examined. When you vote for these assholes, you just show them that it's okay to do underhanded ***** like this.
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