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Giuliani Closed Off Streets to Avoid 9/11 Victims' Families
jonesreport.com — Some 50 Family Members and We Are Change Crew Demand Answers from Former Mayor Giuliani on Trashing Remains of 9/11 Victims; Candidate Smiles, Laughs Behind Policy and Security Insulation. Police blocked off some demonstrators from questioning Giuliani on the matters. Other such questions were ignored as autograph & smile smoozing goes on...
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- alexjonesfan, on 10/11/2007, -51/+147I dugg this story b/c I Support Victims Families!!!
They Know the Truth about Giuliani:
http://911blogger.com/node/3112- edesignweb, on 10/11/2007, -38/+242i dugg this story cause this guy is a *****!
- alexjonesfan, on 10/11/2007, -31/+89edesignweb:
Well thats true too, He is a ***** - monsterenergy, on 10/11/2007, -21/+74i dugg this story because i found it educational. i learned a new thing today.
- Dregga, on 10/18/2007, -116/+15Eat ***** and die, truthers!
- Dundasbro, on 10/11/2007, -73/+14There's nothing wrong with cocksucking. Spitters are after all quitters.
- hdtvdust, on 10/11/2007, -55/+10The jealousy is sad with diggers.
- Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -71/+10The only ones envious of Rudy are the right-wing ***** brigade.
- ryogahibiki, on 10/11/2007, -41/+129Wow, I'm starting to believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories...
Check out this video of a survivor at the point of impact by the plane. She's fine and waving. There's no fire from any jet plane fuel and it's obviously cool enough to be around.
http://thewebfairy.com/911/humanwaving/
I would not put it beyond the bush administration to try and pull this off. - 0ceanic, on 10/11/2007, -13/+55as much as rudy guiliani has wrapped himself in the american flag of 9-11 patriotism, he is saying he is the go to guy for terrorism response. he deserves every public interrogation he gets.
someone ask him, what he thinks the bush administration did wrong during the katrina aftermath. - thatsmyaibo, on 10/11/2007, -59/+43The person waving in that video is doing it from the point of impact. The fuel from the plane would be leaking farther into the building at the speed it was traveling, not at the spot where the person is. These conspiracy people are taking it too far. If it was our own government, it could have been done on the weekend with less casualty and just as much monetary purpose or war instigation. these attacks were TO KILL AMERICANS! Get over it.
- ISIfunded911, on 10/11/2007, -15/+51In case the site goes down:
Alex Jones interviews 9/11 victim's father Bill Doyle who lost his son Joseph Doyle during the September 11th attack...
Original airdate: July 7, 2006
Alex Jones: Founded in September of 2001, the World Trade Center United Family Group is a nonprofit 501c3, and you were its founder and head and you say you represent over 7,000 people. What is the average view of those that you represent about 9/11 and the cover-up?
Bill Doyle: What they want is... If you want to believe the 9/11 Commission's story -- like a lot of us don't, ok? You really gotta go look in the... It almost looks like there was a conspiracy about 9/11 -- if you really look at all the facts. A lot of families now feel the same way.
[...]
Alex Jones: With your 7,000 members, I'm sure you've talked to most if not all of them. What percentage would you say believe 9/11 is an inside job to some extent?
Bill Doyle: Maybe half... Probably 50/50.
Full interview here:
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/aj_2006-07-07_clipped.mp3
Related:
The most enthralling documentary about 9/11 (not technical, full of new fascinating revelations about what was known before, and family members say what they think), "9/11: Press For Truth"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1016720641536424083&q=press+for+truth - ISIfunded911, on 10/11/2007, -17/+33@0ceanic
About Katrina, I recommend that you watch BBC investigative reporter Greg Palast's (the guy who gave us the 500 mails from Rove and co) documentary:
"New Orleans, from Big Easy to Big Empty"
Watch: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7721859326791373209
Buy and support the invaluable work of Greg Palast: http://www.gregpalast.com/get-the-film-that-got-us-busted-big-easy-to-big-empty/
The revelations about the Bush administration, the levies, the corruption,...are so stunning!
When I watched it I realized that there was a conspiracy to get rid of many poor black people there. Before I thought it was possible, but now Greg Palast gives us the facts.
It reinforces my belief that 9/11 was an inside job, just like the the fact that the Bush administration ordered the EPA to lie about air quality in New-York, killing thousands of human beings. - greves, on 10/13/2007, -30/+106@ryogahibiki:
It bothers me when people call it a "conspiracy" theory. Conspiracy: "a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act." The "Official Story" is also a conspiracy, of course! The so-called "conspiracy theories" are nothing other than the sobering realization that governments throughout history have used false flag terrorist operations against their own people in order to convince them to willingly give up liberties and increase government power. Examples:
• Nero burned Rome to blame the Christans A.D. 64
• US provoked Mexican-American war 1846
• USS Maine sinking 1898
• Lusitania sinking 1915
• Reichstag fire 1933
• Hitler’s staged attack on the Gleiwitz radio station 1939
• The “surprise attack” at Pearl Harbor 1941
• Bay of Pigs conspiracy 1961
• Operation Northwoods 1962
• LBJ’s Gulf of Tonkin conspiracy 1964
• Kuwaiti baby incubator hoax 1991
Please feel free to research any of them you like, and you'll find that they follow the MO of 9/11 to a t. Also, one great way to learn more is check out all of the fantastic documentaries made about our government, and I would recommend starting with Alex Russo's "America: Freedom to Fascism," and then anything by Alex Jones. You can listen and read more from Alex Jones at prisonplanet.com and infowars.com. And no these links are not spam, they are news sites that have gotten plenty of articles on digg itself. Even the website of this article is from Alex Jones - jonesreport.com.
@ 911 Truthers
Fellow truthers, I know you're out there. Don't put up for comments like that from Dregga just above. Post reasoned replies like mine, make your presence known. Remember, in the end we're not going to be able to win the freedom movement as a whole unless we rise beyond politics entirely and realize a new public consciousness. - gcnaddict, on 10/11/2007, -5/+30"The battleship Maine sunk due to an internel explosion, I don't think the government did it on purpouse though they did use it as ane xcuse to go to war without verifying facts."
Actually, that was the effect of the media. The explosion was heavily overhyped by printing organization at the time, with some calling it an act of war. - worldinmyeyes, on 10/11/2007, -21/+49The true idiots of this country are those that blindly support the official government version of events on 9/11 - amidst overwhelming evidence of an inside job. Who benefited from 9/11? Certainly not muslims, did they? Wake UP Americans, the truth is coming out.
- worldinmyeyes, on 10/11/2007, -19/+36Still amazing that people refuse to believe our government could plan and execute this (or let it happen). Is ABC a good enough source to remind one of what the CIA is capable of?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&pa...id=92662&page=1 - TakeAction, on 10/11/2007, -13/+29@ greves
I am with you 100% I appreciate your post. After doing my own research for years, I am on the same boat as you!! Thanks for the post. - bbear, on 10/11/2007, -31/+6"i dugg this story cause this guy is a *****!"
Rudy sucks a dick: (SFW) http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_2001_Sept_11/ai_78265968
Rudy wears panties: (SFW) http://images.google.com/images?um=1&tab=wi&hl=en&q=rudy%20giuliani%20in%20drag - Salgat, on 10/11/2007, -6/+47Giuliani freaks the hell out of me.
- YixilTesiphon, on 10/11/2007, -14/+32"i dugg this story cause this guy is a *****!"
I can't digg you up far enough. - felchdonkey, on 10/11/2007, -10/+14bbear, don't be an asshat.
I don't like Guiliani, but the article you linked to just has a friend of his talking about how he's not prejudiced against his gay friends.
Your title for the link was offensive, and had nothing to do with the article. - jamessavik, on 10/11/2007, -31/+12>>The true idiots of this country are those that blindly support the official government version of events on 9/11 - amidst overwhelming evidence of an inside job. Who benefited from 9/11? Certainly not muslims, did they? Wake UP Americans, the truth is coming out.
The true idiots in this country are those that blindly embrace any conspiracy theory, regardless of how idiotic, without any evidence what so ever beyond a few lunatic fringe web sites as long as it makes their own country look bad.
Consider this: in the days following 9/11, the various US stock markets lost a full one third of their value. That amounts to over a trillion dollars up in smoke. Who did that hurt if not the very fat-cat republicans that you are busy demonizing? If they had wanted to start a war using a false flag operation, doesn't it stand to reason that they would have hit something that would maximize the outrage and not have injured THEIR OWN INTERESTS like a shopping mall in Miami or a sporting event in Atlanta?
There are sheep that blindly follow their Christian fundamentalist republican shepherds and there are sheep that blindly follow X-files-esque conspiracy theories, anti-american propaganda that comes from Hezbollah and thinks that they are so brilliant for thinking out of the box. Of the two groups, I'll be damned if I can't tell which one is dumber or more dangerous. - Cerialthriller, on 10/11/2007, -10/+22@james
yeah.. but they made waaaaaay more then they lost with this war. Take a loss now to make nice profits later. It's a widely used practice in business. It just so happens that almost every contractor getting tops contracts these days are connected to high ranking government officials. Haliburton ftw.. - zacharygriggs, on 10/11/2007, -24/+8DIE BASTARD ***** SUCKING *****
- zeroeffect, on 10/11/2007, -7/+20@jamessavik
"Consider this: in the days following 9/11, the various US stock markets lost a full one third of their value."
Consider the unusually high numbers of PUT options placed on airline stocks in the days leading up to 9/11. There was a lot of money made by a small number of people because of the tragedy.
"The Bloomberg News reported that put options on the airlines surged to the phenomenal high of 285 times their average."
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html - mike17032, on 10/11/2007, -38/+8You people that belive 9/11 was an inside job are ***** idiots, plain and simple. Do the rest of us a favor and do whatever it takes to not have kids. And stop posting your ***** nonsense to digg.
- zeroeffect, on 10/11/2007, -11/+28@mike17032
I'll bet you still think they will find WMDs in Iraq, that the soldiers will be greeted as liberators and that it truly was "Mission Accomplished". - Shandooga, on 10/11/2007, -17/+30Who are the idiots that are saying that "jet fuel was leaking"? Jet fuel, like any other liquid fuel, rapidly burns off when ignited in the open. Remember the initial fireballs? What the hell do you think that was, curtains? Aluminum? Glass? There would have been insufficient fuel remaining after the initial explosion to do all the steel "weakening" that you gov't sheeple were told to imagine.
Further, the buildings were designed to starve a fire of oxygen and we know that was happening because just before the collapse the smoke was dark and rapidly decreasing too. 1 hr. would not have been enough time for a hydrocarbon fuel source to sufficiently weaken enough steel to account for the collapse of either building.
Lastly, hydrocarbons have a maximum temperature potential of 1,800 degrees--THEN ONLY under controlled circumstances, like a gas grill or oven. In those cases the fire appears blue, we did not see blue flames we saw red-orange flames, much cooler than 1,800 degrees. The steel in the towers was tested by Underwriters Laboratories and certified for 2,500 degrees for at least 3 hours (possibly as many as 6, I don't specifically recall the number).
Even more proof of this was recorded by the NYFD when one of the firefighters who upon reaching the point of impact said (on tape) "2 isolated pockets of fire, we should be able to knock it out with 2 lines."
9-11 was an inside job. Your government is evil, just accept it. - Infowarmachine, on 10/11/2007, -7/+12wow you people sicken me.. so its ok to use human remains to fill potholes as long as they are small bits...... that is not honoring the dead, how hard is it to use rubble from buildings that DIDNT have human remains, like WTC7.. or asphalt or concrete, he didnt have to use material from a landfill with dead people in it (which shouldve never been in there in the first place!) god you people really dont have any respect for the dead, or the living i guess either..
the man is a monster. youd defend that piece of trash? you trying to earn yourself a cozzy place in hell next to him? - fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -10/+12@ryogahibiki
Since the plane was moving at such a high speed, it went far into the building. Thus, it is perfectly plausible that there wouldn't be a fire at the impact point.
Also, what is the point of what you are saying, anyway? Are you denying that a plane hit the building? Pointing out something strange does not prove a conspiracy theory. - elioty, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Giuliani has over 15% of the vote at Vote on The Book in the Democratic Primary.
http://www.voteonthebook.com/candidates/view/Rudy_Giuliani - insomniac8400, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2What do you mean you support them, Do you send them money?
- UglieJosh, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5Eisenhower was right.
I just hope the Truthers never prove they are right. It would destroy America; not because of public uproar but, rather, because we can't survive as a country without being involved in a war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military-industrial_complex - manixrock, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4@thatsmyaibo
It is stupid to suggest that because it didn't happen on a weekend it's not a conspiracy by people of goverment. If you would be a goverment official and would have pulled of such an attack would you have done it on a weekend to save people? Or would you have done it during a working day so that some people would think it had to have been the irakys because it was done on a day when there were many casualties? If you are willing to do such an attack in the first place, it is high treason and punished with death, regardless if you killed 50 or 5000 people. Do you really think they would care enough? The reason is money, and regardless of how many would have died it would be a tragedy. But if only 10 people would have died, would that be enough to make people support an invasion of another country?
In retrospect and in the large picture, the attack brought much to america's richmen and nothing but misery to the attacker's country. - schnoggi, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7watch this movie sometime if there is the slightest shred of doubt that Giuliani is a first-rate scumbag
http://www.giulianitime.com/
he may not be the anti-christ, but it's not for lack of trying - phineous, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3Hey thatsmyaibo,
Doesn't heat rise? Let's pour some burning fuel down a chimney and see how long you can sit your ass on top of it!
"The person waving in that video is doing it from the point of impact. The fuel from the plane would be leaking farther into the building at the speed it was traveling, not at the spot where the person is. These conspiracy people are taking it too far. If it was our own government, it could have been done on the weekend with less casualty and just as much monetary purpose or war instigation. these attacks were TO KILL AMERICANS! Get over it." - AriaStar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Wow...and to think, I liked the guy for the longest time. This just.... It puts him almost as low as Bush IMO now.
- newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1It's a tired old formula. Those of us who believe the official story are branded "sheep." We have, of course, been brainwashed by the government. (Insert a few pathetic historical references here to reinforce the apparent capabilities of the government). We are apparently being taken for fools, and have no knowledge of the things going on in the world.
It's a paradox. You, of course, have reached a higher purpose. No doubt you have researched the subject matter from every angle possible, have conducted extensive research, read every conflicting argument and left no stones unturned in coming to your own educated conclusions. You are more important than us, because you have a mouth and you're not afraid to use it. You are the ones who are battling the horrible force that is the government, who are seeking the truth. You are the ones who are carefully crafting every hateful, misinformed word of yours in the name of the family members who lost loved ones on that fateful day. If it weren't for you, we'd be powerless at the hands of an oppressive dictatorship, hell-bent on getting, er, oil... yeah, that's it. Oil. Oil is the answer to everything in the world, right?
But isn't it ironic... don't you think? How you hang on the ill-informed, oft debunked claims of conspiracy nutjobs working out of their bedrooms? How you are swayed by some kindergarten physics slapped on a video and thrown on YouTube; some quotes being taken out of context? How you are too blind to see both sides of the story, and lack the mental capacity to come to your own conclusions? How, with your pre-school knowledge of world politics and economics, you come out with the most arrogant, sweeping statements, safe in the knowledge that in your own little world you do indeed know it all?
It's a relief. Masha'Allah you fools are not in any position of power. - pailsOfGrease, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1I buried this story because I like Alex Jones and making mountains out of molehills like this story discredit what valid points he has to make.
- Clogs, on 10/11/2007, -20/+829/11 Survivors and Family Members Question the 9/11 Commission Report
Many 9/11 survivors and many 9/11 victim family members have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report. Several even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11.
Listed below are statements by more than 100 9/11 survivors, victims and family members that contradict or are critical of the 9/11 Commission Report. Their collective voices give credibility to the claim that the 9/11 Commission Report is tragically flawed.
These individuals cannot be simply dismissed as irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy theory. Their statements are based on their intimate familiarity with and intense study of the events of 9/11. Their criticism of the Commission Report is not inherently irresponsible or illogical. In fact, it is based on their desire to honor the victims of that terrible day by finding the truth and bringing to justice those responsible for these terrible acts.
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html- ganjadude4391, on 10/11/2007, -22/+100I was also there, i didnt witness the attacks bu i was there within a few hours helping with the aftermath rescues. The whole time some firemen were questioning what happened, because they knew what they heard/saw, and it was NOT what the uppers were telling them they heard/saw. Take it from someone who was there, we are NOT getting the whole story
- Egoist, on 10/11/2007, -39/+25You mean that there was confusion on the ground about what happened right after the attacks on 9/11?!?!? You mean everything wasn't clear? That's absolutely incredible!
It's like when there was a shooting, and eye witnesses can't say exactly how many shots there were, or if they had only heard the backfiring of a car.
That's all the evidence I needed to believe these convoluted and misleading conspiracy theories. Thanks guys!! - hdtvdust, on 10/11/2007, -42/+13ganaj...*****. Period. I was there too. So I can say with 100% certainty..*****.
- natschultz, on 10/11/2007, -14/+17The problem here is the negative connotations of the term "Conspiracy Theory." By calling anyone who questions the the accuracy of government-approved answers to any question a "conspiracy theorist" the public automatically disregards them and therefore any honest debate or research into the truth. It's not just 9/11 - the same can be said for anyone who has questioned the events of any historical event, particularly the holocaust. Calling anyone who has done serious research into the facts a "holocaust denier" is foolish; what's wrong with legitimate research into the scientific and historical facts of what really happened?
The problem is that the general public is afraid to hear any substantive proof that will prove that what they have been taught is wrong. It makes them question everything about their long-held beliefs; it makes them struggle mentally and that can be tiresome; they would rather be fed "facts" whether truthful or not, and just sit back and not have to think for themselves or do anything.
Take the Christian Right: they are still all twisted over Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Most people have accepted the evidence, but they go out of their way to explain it away.
Today, the "conspiracy theorists", "truth seekers", "holocaust deniers" etc. are all marginalized as if we are like the Christian Right who deny factual evidence, when in reality it is the majority of society who are acting like the "evolution deniers" by refusing to listen to any facts that uproot the "facts" they have been fed. - Egoist, on 10/11/2007, -15/+24No, there are negative connotations to the term "conspiracy theory" because they tend to be off-the-wall, "Well the baker said at the time... And he's much more knowledgeable and trustworthy than the NTSB and structural engineers and the guy who designed the towers and...."
Ok, so the government knows about an upcoming terrorist attack. So the first thing they do is contact the new owner of the WTC towers and says, "Ok Chief, we're going to wire up your billion dollar property and blow it up EXACTLY at the same time as a couple of planes crash into it flown by Arab terrorists who hate America. Even though it takes months for a building to be wired to be demolished, we're going to do it in a week and keep it on the lowdown. THEN we're going to cover it up by keeping the hundreds of people involved quiet and destroying any relevant documents so that 6 years later, not a single copy of a single document saying, "This is how we're gonna do it" will pop up onto the radar.
Or, it could be that the US had an idea that terrorists MIGHT be planning an attack like this, but at the time it was unimaginable and forgotten about with the thousands of other tips and ideas that they hear.
Hmmmmmmm, which one's more believable. This is a toughie! - insomniac8400, on 10/11/2007, -5/+7Too bad being related to someone killed doesn't make your opinion on what happened matter more. They are as uniformed as all of us and it's rediculous to pretend their opinions matter more. If anything they are worth less because they are emotionally involved and that makes them hugely biased.
- gr3yn3t, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6Egoist - I dugg you up because sometimes people need to hear a voice of reason, and you make a very valid point.
However, more than one person has admitted to the WTC7 collapse being planned, what could they have to gain by saying that?
It would be much easier just to tell the public that the fire collapsed the building. I feel that in the case of WTC7 they may be telling us the truth.. - babar77, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2@egoist
It's nice to see someone else with some sort of reason here. I never understood why all these "conspiracy theories" are so easily accepted by people, but the hard physical evidence analyzed by real physicists, or scenarios analyzed with very real world examples is so easy to brush aside.
@gr3yn3t
It's been shown time and time again that eyewitness testimony is sketchy at best. Emotions, personal biases, ulterior motives, and other witness's recollections are all examples of things that cloud and influence memories, and therefor eyewitness testimony. There are has also been a lot of scrutiny toward eyewitness testimony involving events with large media exposure. It has been show repeatedly that media coverage heavily influences testimonies.
So again, you have testimonies that can be considered sketchy at best against well-known, verifiable facts listed by Egoist. Which should one trust?
Just a side observation: I'm perplexed at the amount of comments by the heavy atheist community who say they are people of reason and not religion; however, when a 9/11 conspiracy theory comes up that is based on the analysis of some arm-chair scientist everyone diggs and defends the heck out of it before giving it some real thought. I know 9/11 is a very emotional subject, and that's part of the problem. We all need to step back, take a deep breath, truly consider the facts at hand with real solid analysis by well trained engineers and physicists on hard evidence and then make decisions that are not clouded by our emotions. I know every time I do this, most 9/11 conspiracy theories fall to dust. - stallion4, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Physicist Steven Jones' latest paper using the scientific method to explain why the Twin Towers and Building 7 fell down
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/JonesWTC911SciMethod.pdf
PNAC Rebuilding America's Senses Steven Jones' latest Lecture
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3933508807350233932
Witness testimony about hearing huge explosions occurring in rapid succession seconds before the buildings fell, as well as reports from FBI, FDNY, NYPD finding bombs at the WTC:
http://911proof.com/11.html
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060118104223192
http://www.911review.com/coverup/oralhistories.html
http://www.911blogger.com/node/6078
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
http://ae911truth.org/
- Tyrsson, on 10/11/2007, -13/+64This would hardly be the first time Giuliani attempted to avoid criticism by suppressing First Amendment rights of American citizens:
http://www.nyclu.org/annualreview99.html - Xuvious, on 10/11/2007, -47/+7Gooliani didn't do ***** but maybe get a ***** load of firemen killed
He was more enamored with talking to the media as a talking head.
He's an attention whore. Like Cindy Sheehan was. Rudy "Cindy Sheehan" Gooliani.
-Brewskie- the6thReplicant, on 10/11/2007, -15/+41The difference is that Cindy was right.
- Bossy, on 10/11/2007, -12/+81I watch C-SPAN and I see his campaign speeches very often on there.
He scares me when he makes the same remarks Bush would. The public attending the campaign scares me when they applaud. The people paying hundereds of dollar to attend his dinner scares me. The way fox news and cnn talk about his campaign status everyday ***** scares me.
The way things are going right now in main-stream media... don't be surprised if he becomes the next decider.- mach32, on 10/11/2007, -24/+4will never happen
- Infowarmachine, on 10/11/2007, -14/+35i think hilary is intended (pre-selected by the NWO) to win, ghouliani is intended to continue indoctrinating/brainwashing/ and desensitizing us to the idea of complete military enforced martial law, torture, war, and terrorism
he is by definition a terrorist
i love his statements like, 'vote for me or another 9/11 will happen!' - KOSmurfy, on 10/11/2007, -15/+19"i think hilary is intended (pre-selected by the NWO) to win"
*****. Hollywood Hogan's the ruler of the world? - natschultz, on 10/11/2007, -9/+12Exactly. Sadly, We the People fall for all the Politicos' propaganda. It is not just Guiliani - ALL the presidential nominees are the same, except for Ron Paul, Kusinich, and Mike Gravel.
"Who are you gonna nuke?" (Gravel to Obama)
Obama: Consideres nuking Iran, just not right now.
Gravel: "Good, we are safe: for the MOMENT"
Puleeeeease! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
- mach32, on 10/11/2007, -28/+6and more from the we are change kiddies. these people are as bad as scientologist.
- brooke415, on 10/11/2007, -29/+339/11 Truth Music & Commentary that everyone should hear:
http://TruthSeeker.us
Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth
http://ae911truth.org
Get active or get radio active
http://TruthAction.org
http://9-11.Meetup.com- mach32, on 10/11/2007, -35/+19all proven to be garbage. fact!
- Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -31/+20Somehow spam is not welcomed on digg, unless it's conspiracy theory spam then it's AOK.
- Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -19/+11"Granted most of them are just as laugh-out-loud stupid as the "real story", but at least they are questioning the government, and that is what is important. To reach a stage where you believe anything that you are told means that you have reached a stage of absolute control where the government owns you."
Do you not realize how much of this is just self-aggrandizement? - hdtvdust, on 10/11/2007, -19/+13For every oine ofthose "architects and engineers" there are 5000 architects and engineers that all prove yours wrong.
- natschultz, on 10/11/2007, -9/+17Oh my goodness! nickgravelyn, where did you go to school? I find it hard to believe that anyone forced to be brainwashed by the propaganda-pushers employed by the unconstitutional public school system could have turned out as intelligent as you. Congratulations! There is a glimmer of hope for America!
Unfortunately, those like 'Dregga' are poster-children of American ignorance. - zeroeffect, on 10/11/2007, -6/+14@hdtvdust
"For every oine ofthose "architects and engineers" there are 5000 architects and engineers that all prove yours wrong."
Gee, I wonder if you pulled that number out of your ass? - CrookedSound, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7Definitely an out of ass number. Definitely.
- Babykitkat, on 10/11/2007, -8/+37NAFTA Superhighway Has Giuliani As Key Player as well
http://www.sierratimes.com/07/05/07/70_189_188_189_68367.htm- jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -23/+8The superhighway is a good thing for us
- commondreamer, on 10/11/2007, -17/+36gooliani is scum, garbage,, he was part of the 911 scam, you can see it in his miafioso face
- ratheunknown, on 10/11/2007, -8/+29Giuliani sold his soul along time ago for illusions of grandeur. Him and the New World Order Globalists will eventually pay the price for their ignorance. "All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome." "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." "Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." Thank You George Orwell and God Bless America my she find the light again!!!!!
- rubored, on 10/11/2007, -14/+30Why isn't this on the Front Page yet???
- Dregga, on 10/11/2007, -25/+19It's a ***** conspiracy!
- sacr3dc0w, on 10/11/2007, -19/+7I wish someone would murder him already.
- xXxRSXTCxXx, on 10/11/2007, -23/+12god what a bunch of morons at wearechange. harassing people ; stalking. please. the targets weren' the victim's families; they were blocking off EVERYONE.
what a way to put a spin on this.- natschultz, on 10/11/2007, -11/+2I don't know who wearechange.org really are; they claim to be for "truth" but say "Privatization does not equal progress."
What the Hell does that mean? Sounds like they are Marxists - they should love Hillary's new Plan.
Personally, I believe in getting at the honest truth in all circumstances, even if it offensive. What the Hell does privatization have to do with anything? How the Hell is the small farmer whose privately owned farm went bankrupt do the Big Government's unfair "free-trade" agreements that supprt subsidizing industrial farmers who poison the food supply a culprit in the downfall of our society?
True privatism - the kind where the government has no control over what individuals do is the only path to true freedom. In a real "free-trade" system, ala. Adam Smith's Laissez Faire we would not be in the situation we are in. No business would sell out their local employees for oversees sweat-shop workers if our government did not provide the financial incentive to do so. In a true "free-trade" situation the local workers would have revolted and the business owners would have been chastized and forced to look for honest ways to increase their profitablility by exporting goods that are in demand oversees without destroying their local workforce. It is government interference that skews the free-market system that for hundreds of years led to innovation and increased profitability that benefited both business and workers. By allowing the workers that have lost their jobs to be supported by government handouts the big-business community has been able to ignore the workers and get away with it. If government entitlements did not exist the workers would have revolted hardcore and toppled both the big-business offenders and the government that supports them.
So yeah, Hillary may have all the Socialists in the country giddy on cloud nine at the moment, but in reality Big Government entitlements only exacerbate the problems facing workers by letting Big Business off the hook.
- natschultz, on 10/11/2007, -11/+2I don't know who wearechange.org really are; they claim to be for "truth" but say "Privatization does not equal progress."
- eatsushi, on 10/11/2007, -8/+43Please don't let this guy win...
- jcm267, on 10/11/2007, -26/+6If it comes down to Giuliani and either Hillary or Obama, you might as well consider him President.
- JonForTheWin, on 10/11/2007, -6/+26Doesn't really matter, they all work for the same team. Just like bush and kerry both admitting on national TV they were Skull and Bones members (just search it on YouTube if you think it's another "theory" it takes about ten seconds).
- hdtvdust, on 10/11/2007, -20/+12Jon! OH NO! Skull and Bones! You've PROVEN IT!
- hdtvdust, on 10/11/2007, -18/+7nick..what a ***** joke you are if you consider either one term Senators to be more qualfiied than Guiliani. Him kicxking their asses will not be because of her being a woman or him being black. Though that won't help matters.
Guiliani running turns 31 solid blue votes into the red column. And the democrats cannot afford to lose NY State. Same with Mitt Romney turning Massachusetts red. - JonForTheWin, on 10/11/2007, -8/+11@hdtvdust
An election in America being completely staged isn't relevant or alarming to you?
Or is your only knowledge of Skill and Bones aka The Order Of Death and the Bohemian Grove ceremonies what you heard on the radio from Rush Limbaugh? Yeah Rush, the same guy who said Hillary is going to win, and . . you think it's a coincidence Rush is saying Hillary will win whilst Ruppert ***** Murdoch is endorsing that witch?
Maybe you'll take and answer these questions seriously when your neighbors are in FEMA camps. - natschultz, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13nickgravelyn: I take back my previous comment complimenting your intelligence. Your 1st post says you only care about the truth, yet here you are claiming that Hillary and Obama can't win based on gender/ race relations.
That is bullsit and you know it; you are utilizing the same flawed logic that the politicians use to brainwash the public.
The REAL reason Hillary and Obama cannot win is that they have both publicly admitted that they plan to steal the hard-earned money of the majority of American citizens and give it away in the form of entitlements so that people will not be in control of their own lives, thereby perpetuating the degrading cycle that prevents people from bettering their own lives by forcing them to rely on the government for all their needs. Once the people are reliant on the government just to survive they automatically become reliant on the lies government tells us.
- porterfield, on 10/11/2007, -11/+31When People Type Like This It Annoys The ***** Out Of Me
- jackcall, on 10/11/2007, -10/+5Yeah what is going on with that? I gave up reading it about one line in...
- OtisPLord, on 10/11/2007, -6/+18My gut reaction to any time I see this man's face or read anything about him is sort of an utter creeped outedness.
- YixilTesiphon, on 10/11/2007, -4/+21If it's him v. Hillary, we're even more ***** than we are now.
- Mast3rDigg3r, on 10/11/2007, -8/+19what a coward
- skytimelapse, on 10/11/2007, -15/+22He was also smiling and smoozing to the cameras DURING 9/11. I don't call that leadership at all. I think that's just camera whoring.
- hdtvdust, on 10/11/2007, -17/+11Just a little tip for you...you saying something does not make it a fact. Making ***** up does not help your cause, nor hurt Guiliani/
- polyGone, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4Guiliani does enough to hurt his image. I don't think a random comment, on the internet, could harm him any worse than his own ignorance.
- LucidHawk, on 10/11/2007, -7/+13Giuliani is funny and stupid..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8C1eczxIdmQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K7aFXRAW7mg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4n7uJnKGTGg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IynTei7GjZk- zacharygriggs, on 10/11/2007, -15/+1which makes him the President if you can learn anything from the last 118 years of presidents, btw look it up George Washington took office April 30, 1789, so don't go ***** posting your cocksucking ***** raped in the ass by priest public edu-*****-cation C- in history because i sucked the teachers ***** and/or licked her ***** guess that the nation was started 4july1776 by men in white wigs, you goddamn *****.
- zacharygriggs, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1^^ how many expletives is that ^^
- hitemup054, on 10/11/2007, -16/+10this is stupid, don't get me wrong...i am not dismissing the possibility of 9/11 being an inside job, I just think the people who appeared on the video (on the website) don't know anything about anything. They make those that have valid arguments seem crazy.
- zacharygriggs, on 10/11/2007, -12/+8http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
- ahsanfarhan22, on 10/11/2007, -7/+8trust me, with the battle between obama and hilary clinton, i don't think giuliani have any chance of becoming america's next dictator.
- Look4Truth, on 10/11/2007, -12/+16We're not going to make it to the next elections, Bush didn't sign himself dictatorial powers just so he could pass them off to the next guy. We're in big trouble folks, the NWO is preparing to launch their final false flag on this nation and it's not going to be pretty. And for those of you who think we're all nuts, just stick this in the back of your heads for when it goes down. It's very important that you remember what has been said here because there will be no more net to discuss freely when that day comes.
Please, remember these words. - TakeAction, on 10/11/2007, -7/+10@ look4truth
I have no clue why you are being dugg down...but I have to agree. It will be a miracle if we even make it to the next election! - natschultz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15I just don't get it: they are all the SAME!!!
They are all for NAFTA - Bill Clinton signed that bloody treaty. They all voted for the war. They all raise taxes, increase Big Government spending, ship good jobs overseas, destroy small farmers, stoke the flames of racial tensions by vying for minority votes (when all Americans should be treated equally), make everyone dependent on the government just to survive, thereby forcing us to believe all their lies.
There is no difference between Big Government Democrats and Big Government Republicans.
Anyone who questions the validity of the government's stand on 9/11 cannot logically believe any of the top-tier candidates from either party. If you do, you are quite confused. Listen to the candidates themselves - only 3 of them stand for the truth: Ron Paul, Kusinich and Gravel.
Either WAKE UP to reality or Shut Up! You cannot advocate for the truth on 9/11 and at the same time support any of the perpetuators of the lie. - YixilTesiphon, on 10/11/2007, -7/+13Obama and Clinton both love State power.
The whole conflict of "how should we use State power" is essentially irrelevant. If you want to increase the power of the government, you don't get my vote. That eliminates everyone but Ron Paul. - mike17032, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7"We're not going to make it to the next elections, Bush didn't sign himself dictatorial powers just so he could pass them off to the next guy. We're in big trouble folks, the NWO is preparing to launch their final false flag on this nation and it's not going to be pretty. And for those of you who think we're all nuts, just stick this in the back of your heads for when it goes down. It's very important that you remember what has been said here because there will be no more net to discuss freely when that day comes.
Please, remember these words."
Deal. As long as you shut the ***** up forever on Digg after the next election goes off just like normal and we have a new president. You agree to that, and I will keep your "words" in mind. - MrEguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@ Lookfortruth: re -- "We're not going to make it to the next elections,..."
You're absolutely right.
- Look4Truth, on 10/11/2007, -12/+16We're not going to make it to the next elections, Bush didn't sign himself dictatorial powers just so he could pass them off to the next guy. We're in big trouble folks, the NWO is preparing to launch their final false flag on this nation and it's not going to be pretty. And for those of you who think we're all nuts, just stick this in the back of your heads for when it goes down. It's very important that you remember what has been said here because there will be no more net to discuss freely when that day comes.
- Binarydemon, on 10/11/2007, -13/+6Its a fact. Digg users love conspiracy theories.
- Powerlock, on 10/11/2007, -11/+16Don't You Just Hate That When All Words In A Sentence Begin With A Capital? What's The Point?
Otherwise a noticeable story, nevertheless! - CapnChance, on 10/11/2007, -14/+7Wow, big surprise, more distorted sensationalized conspiracy kookiness. Is this the future of Digg, posting half baked stories of "THE MAN" being out to get us?
- filmbandit, on 10/11/2007, -14/+7not a fan of rudy fan but what a great thread!
total b.s.
definitely a full moon tonight. - alternateheaven, on 10/11/2007, -17/+10buried for being more ***** from Alex Jones
- jellygraph, on 10/11/2007, -10/+14Giuliani is an evil asshat. God forbid he should ever be in any government position ever
- zacharygriggs, on 10/11/2007, -8/+6OMFG HE WAS FUC|(ING MAYOR OF N(*****)Y(GODDAMN)C
he had a government job, and during one of the most trying times in american history
- zacharygriggs, on 10/11/2007, -8/+6OMFG HE WAS FUC|(ING MAYOR OF N(*****)Y(GODDAMN)C
- marcucuarcu, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2hey...CapnChance might be right....but..isn't that dictatorial?
- audioslavery, on 10/11/2007, -19/+10Giuliani in 08
Digg me down you ***** whackos - meatmaker, on 10/11/2007, -14/+3lets wait to pick on rudy until he gets the nomination
- audioslavery, on 10/11/2007, -15/+6Mitt Romney hopefully will. He's a good guy, i just wonder what kind of liberal propaganda will be spewed at him. This story has no facts behind it, just liberals jumping to conclusions so they can get in their little hate groups.
- JonForTheWin, on 10/11/2007, -11/+17***** mitt romney and his anti-American double-think *****.
Quote: "I support the 2nd Amendment, but I think we should have an assault weapons ban."
TRANSLATION: "This first half of my sentence is *****, and I completely oppose: 'right to bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED', I hate the Second Amendment and I want to take your guns"
Quote: "I am against torture, we should use enhanced interrogation techniques."
TRANSLATION: "I'm a god damned ***** liar who knows how to sound smooth with double-think and can fool stupid(/uninformed?) people like audioslavery with it, I think we should torture people."
anti-American traitor new world order shill romney said these on live TV during the presidential debate (think it was the MSNBC one).
- JonForTheWin, on 10/11/2007, -11/+17***** mitt romney and his anti-American double-think *****.
- gazwilwah, on 10/11/2007, -6/+16Whenever you see the likes of guiliani and bush and all the other nwo creeps on tv, they are always smiling and trying to be funny.
Well we are not smiling, and we are not finding this funny! - gazwilwah, on 10/11/2007, -12/+9oh and welcome to the truth, all those diggers who are new to it.
- madk, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5or your version of it.
- chiggah, on 10/11/2007, -10/+7To: god
cc. Allah, Buddha, Jesus, Tom Cruise
Please Don't let this man become our next president
Sincerely
- Craig42, on 10/11/2007, -11/+9Giuliani is known for nothing but being the mayer of NY when 9/11 happened and he will use this as much as he can to get elected and continue the justification for an undeclared and unconstitutional war. Scumbag.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -10/+6Learn to spell mayor and then, maybe, you'll be smart enough to think for yourself. Scumbag.
- MrEguy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1SpaceMonkeyZero : Do you EVER stop behaving like an *****???
- Craig42, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0@SpaceMonkeyZero
Giuliani is known for nothing but being the mayor of New York when 9/11 happened. He will use this as much as he can to get elected and continue the justification for an undeclared and unconstitutional war. Scumbag.
Rebut. Pussy.
- worldinmyeyes, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15Giuliani is a LIAR like most politicians in the USA. Vote in someone who uphold our liberties, the Constitution, keep us out of senseless wars, and restore this once-great country. The MEDIA will not tell me who to vote for. My primary vote goes to Ron Paul.
- SheriffJWPepper, on 10/11/2007, -12/+18Giuliani is dirty on 9/11 and everyone knows it:
Giuliani says he did NOT know WTC was going to fall: http://video.wnbc.com/player/?id=112179
which directly contradicts what he told Peter Jennings on 9/11 that he was told BEFORE the WTC fell that it was coming down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKHLok-RVNw&mode=related&search- TomT223, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3Not only that, Giuliani's refusal to unite the Police and Fire Departments prior to 9-11, and have Federally mandated disaster drills cost many, many lives on 9-11. He's all reactive, not proactive.
- worldinmyeyes, on 10/11/2007, -8/+18Operation Northwoods http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&pa...id=92662&page=1 proves the CIA is very capable of such an operation.
- JonForTheWin, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15Operation Gladio is a good one to mention too. Unlike Northwoods, Gladio was actually carried out . . hundreds . . of times. al-CIAda and NATO bombed trains, buses, schools . . ***** schools man.
Give a *****? Cool. Watch Terrorstorm on Google Video. - Clogs, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Strategy of Tension
A strategy of tension is a way to control and manipulate public opinion using fear, propaganda, disinformation, psychological warfare, agents provocateurs, as well as false flag terrorist actions (including bombings).
According to historian Daniele Ganser, "It is a tactic which consists in committing bombings and attributing them to others. By the term 'tension' one refers to emotional tension, to what creates a sentiment of fear. By the term 'strategy' one refers to what feeds the fear of the people towards one particular group"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension
The Piazza Fontana bombing was a bombing carried out by far-right terrorists on December 12, 1969 at the offices of Banca Nazionale dell'Agricoltura ("National Agrarian Bank") in Piazza Fontana, Milan, Italy. Sixteen people were killed and up to 90 were wounded. The aim of the attack was to make the public believe that the bombings were part of a communist insurgency, in order to "push the Italian state to proclaim the state of emergency", according to neofascist terrorist Vincenzo Vinciguerra's confessions. This has been called in Italy strategia della tensione.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Fontana_bombing - Clogs, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Webster Tarpley - 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA
http://www.amazon.com/9-11-Synthetic-Terror-Fourth/dp/0930852370/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-609179074068244932
- JonForTheWin, on 10/11/2007, -6/+15Operation Gladio is a good one to mention too. Unlike Northwoods, Gladio was actually carried out . . hundreds . . of times. al-CIAda and NATO bombed trains, buses, schools . . ***** schools man.
- rhabd0mancer, on 10/11/2007, -5/+7Rudy Ghouliani has zero chance of winning the Republican primary.
No pro-choice candidate will EVER win their primary. - bossm4n, on 10/11/2007, -16/+9Rosie and Davis Arquette are on board, so this must be true. /end sarcasm
- madk, on 10/11/2007, -9/+5*clap clap clap clap* That comment should shut everyone up.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2Bruce Willis made a small comment about JFK, and suddenly HE'S ON BOARD with the NUTTER CONSPIRACY!
Good for laughs:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bnliRXAIyIo
- IslandDog, on 10/11/2007, -18/+12Some of you people are absolutely insane. Liberals have such a hard time believe islamic terrorists actually carried out the attacks. People who believe in this conspiracy theory nonsense have no intellect at all.
- Suplyndmnd, on 10/11/2007, -14/+14Homer: Pepsi and Coke are the same thing!
Guys guys guys. The louder you scream about "inside job", it doesn't make it truer. - rholloway, on 10/11/2007, -15/+9"9/11 families" is a bit misleading. I'm not Giuliani fan, but living in NY, there's the 9/11 families and then the group of 9/11 families who are Republican protestors and refer to themselves as the categorical "9/11 families". It's contrived, misleading, and these people are no better than those they accuse of lying. Great use propaganda, actually--takes one to know one, I guess.
- stallion4, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Most of the families and first responders are on board with the 9/11 truth movement and believe 9/11 was an inside job to some extent.
- ChoadNamath, on 10/11/2007, -18/+15Jesus Christ, it's scary how many idiots there are on digg. I'm glad most of you Loose Change retards aren't old enough to vote yet.
- knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -13/+7Jesus washed the feet of the destitute. I wonder if some didn't call him a retard.
- ChoadNamath, on 10/11/2007, -15/+4@knomevol
You're right, Alex Jones is the second coming of Jesus Christ. - CrookedSound, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Why do the folks that disagree with the questions regarding what happened on 9/11 seem so incredibly angry?
Did the media program you to act this way? Did they?
No? Oh, so the lack of self control is something you developed on your own?
Now I understand.
Free to be you and me. God (or whatever higher power) Bless America - TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2"Why do the folks that disagree with the questions regarding what happened on 9/11 seem so incredibly angry? "
Because you ask stupid questions that have already been answered by third party investigations. it's irritating. - stallion4, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@ crookedsound
Something to consider why people like ChoadNamath and TubaTechno "seem" so incredibly angry:
http://digg.com/politics/9_11_Debunkers_Hide_From_Slam_Dunk_Evidence_Of_Controlled_Demolition#c6816259 - knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3i think the USA has had many blessings in its existence, and has allowed them to be thrown away.
the whole world needs some kind of blessing (and PDQ)
- knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -3/+22May God save the Constitution of the United States of America
- Pssdoff, on 10/11/2007, -3/+15Ron Paul will save the Constitution of the United States.
- knomevol, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3then Mr Paul has my vote.
- couragewins58, on 10/11/2007, -9/+17Wow, I'm starting to believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories...
- HighSeaRocks, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You mean the government's conspiracy theory about cave dwellers burning down the twin towers?
- andshewas, on 10/11/2007, -13/+12I have such a hard time with all this 9/11 stuff. Giuliani wasn't the only person in America who had prior knowledge of any aspect of 9/11. The whole government knew. They planned it. Giuliani had better not win the election because he's a "9/11 survivor."
- jedikv, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2your an ideological ass
- zacharygriggs, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1It are a fakt i noes it frum mii lurnings
- mike17032, on 10/11/2007, -16/+15"The true idiots of this country are those that blindly support the official government version of events on 9/11 - amidst overwhelming evidence of an inside job. Who benefited from 9/11? Certainly not muslims, did they? Wake UP Americans, the truth is coming out."
The "truth" is already out. Whats coming out is how stupid a few wackjobs (including yourself) are.
Who benifits when a guy straps a bomb to his chest and sets it off in a market? Yet Muslim radicals do that all the time. Or are we doing that too?
Jackass.- polyGone, on 10/11/2007, -9/+7Pick up a history book, tough guy.
- Groovemaster, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8"The "truth" is already out."
You believe the official story and you're calling other people wackjobs?
Thanks for defining blind stupidity. - TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -10/+3"Who benefited from 9/11?"
Sadly, this stupid question is a cornerstone of their whole conspiracy theory. However, should this question be asked in light of this tragedy? What about other tragedies? Or is 9/11 the ONLY tragedy this question should be asked? Also, does someone HAVE to benefit from a tragedy?
Should we assume that someone benefited from the Virgina Tech shooting?
Should we also assume that someone benefited from that drunk that killed an entire family in a hit an run?
You idiots like to selective and arbitrarily ask stupid questions that lead ignorant people to think you're almost right about something. When in fact, you're asking the same stupid questions that make you look like retards. - Groovemaster, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4@TubaTechno
Terrorism is about furthering one or more goals, which means that the question "Who benefited?" is entirely pertinent to 9/11, whether you like it or not.
The answer is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain: The Bush administration and the military-industrial complex benefited. - TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"The answer is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain"
Alex Jones makes the same type of ad hominem arguments all the time, but it doesn't make them true.
Most definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear or "terror", are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target "non-combatants".
IF you want to ask the question "Who benefited?", then you must look at all sides and stop ignoring the other "obvious" conclusion.
Terrorist organizations now have MORE publicity than even after the Cole attack (which some probably think was stage too, but is not relevant at the moment). More and more "jihadists" are signing up for the cause to coerce entire populations through means of terror.
The military complex has benefited but to say that they planned this whole attack so they can solely benefit is absolutely ridiculous.
We're not going to convince each other either way on the internet. I have plain evidence that suggest that it was a real attack from a terrorist organization, and you think you have evidence that suggests otherwise. Plain and simple.
- slmdmd, on 10/11/2007, -9/+6just take a scale(ruler) and measure the hole size in pentagon and measure(scale) the twin engine plane, and wait, where are the wholes for the engines, check the images before the building collapsed. On the NYC towers even the wings leave marks. Also measure the turbofan on the lawn and the real jet fan. One has to be just as smart enough as a 6th grader.
- madk, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Your 'hole' comment makes no 'cents'.
- slmdmd, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4Sorry for the bad writing skills, I mean, take some measurements of the pentagon 9/11 crash images and compare them to the actual sizes of a plane.
- TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2I saw a plane shaped hole when Bug's bunny crashed an air plane into something....therefore I HAVE to see the same thing in real life, right?!
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