we're way too close to agi to be putting any thought into if muon is equivalent to shampoo
3:58 PM · Jun 8, 2026 · 9.2K Views
Research engineer typedfemale argues debates comparing Muon and Shampoo optimizers are trivial given the rapid timeline to AGI
Research engineer Andrew Carr publicly endorsed the claims.
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Some users endorse a builder's argument that AGI arrival renders trivial AI debates irrelevant while others reject the claim as the worst take yet.
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Andrew Carr 🤸@andrew_n_carr
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typedfemale@typedfemale
we're way too close to agi to be putting any thought into if muon is equivalent to shampoo
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David@DavidSHolz
@typedfemale but the networks need beautiful hair 🥺
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typedfemale@typedfemale
@xXshaurizardXx current discourse
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shaur@xXshaurizardXx
@typedfemale what makes you feel this way
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Keller Jordan@kellerjordan0
@typedfemale @xXshaurizardXx discourses don’t appear from thin air, they are fed
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Jiameng@JiamengJiameng
@typedfemale This reminded me of when we tried out scheduler free Adam a few years ago. That was proper fun
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Atmadeep Banerjee@abanerjee99
@typedfemale Just use Adam and let AGI figure this out
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Rugbist@rugbist_
@typedfemale right lol, this is where we stop prioritizing the important stuff
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Mild Mannered Maniac@80sGeek
@typedfemale what'd i miss?
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llm_enjoyer@LLMenjoyer
@typedfemale worst take yet, incredibly faded
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