A set of open weights has no nationality. A model hosted on American infra and controlled by an American company is as American as apple pie.
Rippling's Parker Conrad argues US-hosted open-weight AI is American
Founder Suhail supported domestic hosting over banning open technology.
Many users praised the Rippling CEO's claim that US-controlled open-weight models are effectively American, while others objected over security risks and distrust of foreign models.
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Correct. You want safe models? This is what you do. Tons of software we use everyday is made by people of all nationalities. When it's indispensable for American National Security, we invest in locking it down. You do not need to ban technology that can be made safe.
A set of open weights has no nationality. A model hosted on American infra and controlled by an American company is as American as apple pie.
@parkerconrad god damn it stay out of this parker
A set of open weights has no nationality. A model hosted on American infra and controlled by an American company is as American as apple pie.
@parkerconrad bars, should get you into the recording studio
@parkerconrad is that right? you don't know what's in the weights. I would not trust Chinese open weight model on any infra.
@parkerconrad No one is saying @thinkymachines shouldn't be able to release open weight models. You're conflating two things on purpose to muddy the waters. It just shouldn't come at the cost of stealing years of American research like PRC companies are doing.
@parkerconrad Giving China the ability to produce extremely powerful forms of AI and use them within China (including against the US) clearly hurts the US even if it were true that using open weights in America is safe
@parker__conrad @parkerconrad Is your name actually parker conrad
@parkerconrad i’d say it’s more panda express orange chicken than apple pie
@parkerconrad @tablefourthree @thinkymachines What has been proven is that Anthropic trainer on copyrighted data
@Suhail Hopefully we start slowly making progress in that direction
@parkerconrad Would you support a ban on using Chinese inference?
@parkerconrad @thinkymachines Would you be opposed to an executive order banning PRC AI companies from using US models? If PRC isn’t stealing from US AI companies they should have no trouble continuing their development without accessing US models.
@parkerconrad Maybe it'd be helpful if we had an American inference provider with a name that symbolized american freedom and independence? like fireworks or something
@parkerconrad @tablefourthree @thinkymachines What I was referring to was ToS violation.
@parkerconrad The provenance panic misses this: weights you can download and run air-gapped answer to whoever holds the GPU, not the training flag. The real leverage isn't where it was trained — it's who controls the endpoint you can't inspect.
@Suhail Would love to use a U.S. made Open Source Model if it is as capable of what the Chinese firms are releasing
@tablefourthree @thinkymachines You use this word “stealing” — if they broke the law the government or Anthropic should prove its case in court. No crime has been proven or even alleged.