Writer @zetalyrae argues that holding capital or AI lab equity won't protect elites from disempowerment by superintelligent AI

https://borretti.me/article/no-one-escapes-the-permanent-underclass

@zetalyrae This nightmare just isn’t coherent. If all production gets replaced by machines, does all consumption get replaced by them too?

@tartsomi I don't know what the next step is. Probably involves some kind of political organizing.

@DeskDuncan I'm doing my part brother https://borretti.me/fiction/eog581

@jshobrook It doesn't matter. Any move by capital to acquire sovereign power will be be swiftly and fatally stopped by the state. Governments can be incompetent about everything *except* this.

@zetalyrae the fallacy inherent within this absurd fantasy is the fact that corporations and money don't run the world. all of this pro and anti AI slop is very marxist at its core

@holo197510 Corporations don't run the world.

@zetalyrae so why exactly would the people that do allow them to do something as destabilizing as turning the entire country into pissed off poorcels with nothing to lose and 400+++ million firearms on hand

@zetalyrae there is no planning for the case you describe. we are trying to escape permanent underclass in the world where dario controls the superhuman turbonerd with no desires of its own

@zetalyrae I appreciate the message, but i wonder what the next step should be for the average person: suicide? drugs? lobotomy? the future has already shattered my identity, and i think it will do the same to the people i love and those i dont even know. I dont want to keep watching

>They think planet-spanning minds will not only respect the property rights of primates

We already have planet-spanning minds respecting the property rights of primates.

When you say the state monopolizes all production, you're making an industrial organization argument. You can't just stipulate that "alignment" solves the coordination problems that property rights solve.

Any rational agent will face a make/buy tradeoff. Why is it the case that suddenly AI only makes?

@zetalyrae a new fernando post day is always a good day

@zetalyrae ... Then we will be politically crushed by the machine. I dont see any way out other than to keep watching or not watching at all. Phew... Putting that aside, thankyou for speaking out loud and clear, your honesty is truly appreciated

@holo197510 @zetalyrae I think you have a misconception of what being the underclass will be like. You'll have your guns, your double fridge with CARTONS of eggs in suburban house, your Superbowl and your F150. All that while becoming completely irrelevant politically and economically.

@zetalyrae yeah well im becoming hippie and catching the moment. touching grass and smiling to the ceiling. minimising my desires. whats dario gonna do about this

@zetalyrae Alignment doesn’t ensure the AI will want us around, but I fail to see why it wouldn’t want us around. We’re entertaining. It might just move to Mars so it can build things without interference while watching the sitcom.

@zetalyrae "The base doesn’t need them: the AIs can work autonomously."

False. The AI need the power to stay on, and that takes money.

@zetalyrae We’d all be saved if the AIs are communist. They’d concentrate all their labor hours at the beginning of the Singularity on developing upload and leave no technology “indistinguishable from magic”. Set the tone, remake the training data now!

@ideacasino thx king

@zetalyrae There will probably be a (brief?) period where capital becomes more powerful. If AI replaces labor, then money buys results more easily.