Hugging Face co-founder Clément Delangue argues that concentration of power and wealth is the primary risk facing AI
Beff agreed with the claim, while Joscha Bach disagreed.
Many users agree with the Hugging Face CEO's warning on AI power concentration and back open-source alternatives, while others call the remarks hypocritical or dismiss AI development outright.
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It's time for a rebellion.
We can't let one lab achieve RSI and overconcetrate power / actively sabotage competition.
Time to seize the means of AI production for everyone
Recursive self improvement for the elites. Not for us. Plebs.
Fable doesn’t support ai research, security research, biology research, and rejects many common requests.
Safety is the boogeyman for vertical integration. The new global monarchs are here.
Open agentic networks built on open source models and open infra is our only alternative.
@ClementDelangue I hate to tell you but there are even bigger risks than someone having a better AI model than you
Concentration of power, capabilities and economic wealth is the biggest risk in AI. We need open science and open-source more than ever!
The fight continues.
Concentration of power, capabilities and economic wealth is the biggest risk in AI. We need open science and open-source more than ever!
@Plinz Most of the other risks are, in my view, either much less likely, or made more likely and more damaging by extreme concentration of power, capabilities and wealth
@ClementDelangue I hate to tell you but there are even bigger risks than someone having a better AI model than you
@ClementDelangue "The only safe models are the ones that make us tons of money and put everyone else out of work" is quite the message to rally behind...
This is not one that we can let go quietly.
Apropos the Fable/Mythos release, but the trend towards closing off models in the name off safety/security is terrible and we should fight it
Concentration of power, capabilities and economic wealth is the biggest risk in AI. We need open science and open-source more than ever!
@ClementDelangue Yep
@ClementDelangue Yes.
Concentration of power, capabilities and economic wealth is the biggest risk in AI. We need open science and open-source more than ever!
@ClementDelangue open source should win
here's the CEO of a multi-billion$ for profit company warning the public about the dangers of concentrated wealth. such hypocrisy
Concentration of power, capabilities and economic wealth is the biggest risk in AI. We need open science and open-source more than ever!
@Plinz @ClementDelangue Serious question, what are the bigger you are talking about?
In my mind I have planetary / cosmic level threats, this is an addition to what power hungry / mentally unstable humans might do
What else am I missing?
@ClementDelangue @jeremyphoward I actually think the biggest hurdle for open-model development is the amount of compute. If we can bring down model training cost to an affordable range, open-models can easily out-perform proprietary models.
@ClementDelangue let's get the boys together and finally train that 10T we have always been talking about
@carlkolon @ClementDelangue What makes you feel AI causes extinction. What is the realistic basis for this? Other than fiction?
Meanwhile extreme concentration of power is already happening, and happened with Google’s monopoly on search.
@ClementDelangue That’s definitely a big risk but I don’t think it’s the biggest. What about extinction?
@ClementDelangue How about organizing a co-op to fund training for open models? Just complaining won't get us anywhere. And regulating to slow it down is stupid because nobody will regulate the Chinese, it will just be economic suicide.
@ClementDelangue the conviction is right but "open source" has become the thing everyone agrees on while disagreeing about everything underneath it - model weights without compute access, data provenance, or governance is a flag without a country
@ClementDelangue Couldn't agree more. AI is built on the collective wisdom of humanity over millennia—it belongs to all of us. Any move to privatize AI is purely selfish and narrow-minded, and it’s a direct threat to social order and fairness.
I’d love to see Hugging Face add a clause requiring that any use of its datasets as well as any dataset uploaded to its platform must be subject to a mandatory reciprocal open research license, regardless of the company involved. This is probably the only real way to stop these players from undermining open research and the community.
@ClementDelangue The tech is exciting. The concentration of power around it is the part that keeps me thinking🤔