extremely niche second order optimizer drama going down rn
1:55 PM · Jun 8, 2026 · 23.2K Views
Will Depue, who worked on Sora at OpenAI, teases a highly specialized ML community debate over second-order optimizers
Creator swyx compared the discussion to lighthearted optimizer jokes.
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Users are excited by the niche drama over second-order optimizers in AI because it sounds like the most entertaining math drama ever.
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swyx@swyx
@willdepue been a bit since we had the battle of the bathroom essentials
will depue@willdepue
extremely niche second order optimizer drama going down rn
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Nina@NinaPanickssery
@willdepue it’s just he ssian she said
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Nina@NinaPanickssery
@willdepue it’ll blow over in a moment
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/@gazorp5
@willdepue many
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Strata@ChainZenit
@willdepue this sounds like the most entertaining math drama ever.
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Aashish Reddy@_AashishReddy
@NinaPanickssery @willdepue he ssian she sayin Maybe
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