Bill Gurley Slams Anthropic For Seeking Political Cover Against Chinese AI Rivals

@javedhassan To your point…

@javedhassan And Anthropic basically stole all knowledge of human race in all corners of the world, including Chinese language skills.

The AI companies should be presenting this much more as transparent data of what is happening over time and much less like smear campaigns with strong policy wishes. Just comes across as so self serving, hard to want to support them.

@natolambert Why? Distillation is against their ToS and the raised points are correct. Why should distillation be okay when they use bots and VPNs to circumvent access restrictions and also actually pay less than regular API users

@javedhassan @bgurley The real fear is that their political system works well.

@natolambert https://pstaidecrypted.substack.com/p/chinese-models-distillation-and-the

@javedhassan well said. What isn't mentioned is the monopolistic profit being prevented by this competition. The only ones really complaining are the monopoly capitalists trying to protect their margins. Meanwhile, all others are being particularly quiet

@natolambert @MissytheCoyote Didn’t @AnthropicAI distill all human data and knowledge to roll out entirely closed source models? 🤦🏼‍♀️

@javedhassan I regret following you, and I’m unfollowing you now. I don’t understand your mindset: instead of criticizing China for plagiarism, you point the finger at the US. By that logic, why not just make atomic bomb technology public?

@javedhassan It's funny that Anthropic whose entire business is predicated on stolen IP/work/creation/data but are now complaining about others "stealing" from them 🫩

@lukepuplett @javedhassan @bgurley China had to cut its own head off with the Great Leap Forward by starving millions of citizens to death and had to give up, embrace some democratic ideals, and steal tech to compete. No originality coming out of that and certainly nobody is afraid of fragile Chinese political sys

@natolambert Winners don’t whine.

@javedhassan I disagree with you. The Chinese are taking the shortcut by stealing the IP . If you cannot protect your IP your economy will be relegated to second tier .

@javedhassan This is actually their ploy to appear in harmony with the Department of War as they have a Target on their back themselves.

We know China has employed distillation and IP theft due to a capital disadvantage.

@javedhassan During an election cycle, when the runner up's poll starts to trail closely, immediately a wave of scandals hits.

I ask myself why so many accusations all hit at the same time and why they all disappear after the candidate withdraws.

Same playbook in business?

I think there's originality or perhaps creativity to whatever we call this hybrid they've landed on. The main advantage of which seems to be long term planning and execution.

There are downsides, perhaps more visible to us outside (and perhaps some are comforting stories we tell ourselves), but if they're not existential downsides, then it's a viable challenger to the free world model, which may prove to succumb to the Paradox of Tolerance.

@StockUnit @javedhassan @bgurley I put my argument to ChatGPT and it said this, which I thought was excellent.

> History suggests centralized systems often accumulate hidden problems because bad news travels upward poorly

It's the same affliction in corporations, which are also not democracies.

@natolambert Distillation is just another word for education. This will all blow over.

@wajalein @javedhassan Setting aside that distillation is a complete nothing burger that is widespread even between US labs, one can only laugh at the comparison of classified military weapons technology with the already public text outputs of a consumer product 😂

@javedhassan I distilled my teacher🤣