Cattle farming consumes a leading 137 billion gallons daily.
Compared to other major industries, data centers actually use far less water
"The projections for water demand are not eyebrow-raising... Concerns about water are largely a substitute for concerns people have for this fast-developing industry"
Many users harshly dismissed comparisons claiming data centers use far less water than cattle farming or homes, often calling the figures misleading or irrelevant to AI's growing demands.
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@saeverley @axios Providing food, power, drinking water and making steel are actual returns on water use.
The inevitable ballooning of water use for AI data centers for a bubble in investment dollars is even more useless than golf courses.
@saeverley @axios Almond farms said those are rookie numbers.
Data center water use, contextualized
(chart via @axios)
@saeverley @JRobFreedom @axios Beef is a far better use of water than a data center.
@saeverley @axios The anti-data center narrative is funded by China to destroy our country.
@saeverley @axios Just using gross numbers without context makes little sense.
@otherbarrylives @saeverley @axios so ai has no actual returns? do you genuinely think the work done by ai hasn’t already optimized countless industries which in return reduces things like energy costs or gas usage? you can’t be this retarded
while i have no real stake in this battle, im confused as to what this is suppose to convey.....cause if its 'these are wasting more then data centers' to try and say 'data centers arnt that bad'
people need food, people need power, people need water........ im ok with that....... data centers i dont see a true.....actual...need for.... so im against that
not that im against data centers....but i dont see what they truely provide...and were talking mostly ai data centers, not like....amazon aws, or google....ect....... so what is ai providing PEOPLE right now......its mostly for those with money to get ahead of the curve..... theres no inherent benefit for the people right now...and i use ai almost daily for various things, but moving data centers to populated areas...and siphoning the resources...is a problem...
and beleive me im not well versed or educated enough to really speak to this in full....
@SDQA1776 @saeverley @axios The U.S. has over 5,400 data centers already. China has 396.
Stop using this stupid talking point that you found on the internet.
@otherbarrylives @wy_ttlmao @saeverley @axios Your statement doesn’t actually address his point and undermines your original point
@wy_ttlmao @saeverley @axios Why is almost every company who went heavy into AI usage scaling back when the bill for token usage comes in and they have no ROI?
@notsleepy @saeverley @axios Tony what is 1.3 trillion divided by 365
@saeverley @axios
It’s not about the water use Steve. Nobody in the US is concerned they won’t have water to drink.
This argument is attacking the wrong problem entirely. You may as well be speaking a different language than the people who oppose data centers.
If we’re going to scale AI in any meaningful way the resistance of communities is going to be a massive bottleneck that needs to be addressed.
And saying “nuh uh look that golf course uses more water” is extremely counterproductive and honestly disrespectful to the people make the counterargument.
That golf course isn’t a threat to that communities livelihood and way of life.
If you see this post. Don’t be like Steve. Posting picture of water usage charts is like talking to a wall and feeling good about yourself.
You solve nothing, you help nobody. You just make yourself look like you lack any credibility.
@saeverley @axios This nigga Steve don’t know what context means. How is this contextualized if it isn’t per capita
@saeverley @axios Most of those are contained loops, or at least going back into the ground. Data centers scatter the water instead of recirculating it, is the main argument I believe
@saeverley @axios RE USE of water.
Cattle water consumption INCLUDES and is mostly the water in grass that is eaten by the cattle. The water is in the grass regardless.
@saeverley @axios I can’t eat data Steve. Please remove my food from the scale and readjust the values with that in mind thanks.
@saeverley @axios The only date I see on there is 2024.
@otherbarrylives @saeverley @axios You’re retarded dude. You oppose a revolutionary technology that is set to change the world because it uses an insignificant amount of water. This is why people like you cannot be allowed to make decisions.
