OpenAI's roon argues people are better prepared for the future by viewing AI models as cartoon characters
AI safety researcher Miles Brundage reacted sarcastically to the framing
Many users found the cartoon-character framing for AI models useful or respectful because it highlights their trajectory beyond mere software, while others rejected it as overly generous or disruptive to mental wellbeing.
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these characters are owned and modified by model training corporations in much the same way Disney owns Mickey Mouse let’s say, but Mickey Mouse is becoming superintelligent. it’s a strange situation
it prepares you vastly better for the future to think of models as cartoon characters of arbitrary and growing intelligence living in the cloud than it does to think of them as software or tools
@tszzl You don’t say
it prepares you vastly better for the future to think of models as cartoon characters of arbitrary and growing intelligence living in the cloud than it does to think of them as software or tools
Jensen is the mushroom
it prepares you vastly better for the future to think of models as cartoon characters of arbitrary and growing intelligence living in the cloud than it does to think of them as software or tools
@tszzl Me watching Codex check Claude's work:
@tszzl we have the cartoon for claude but what is the one for gpt, its true form
@tszzl THEY LET HIM PILOT A STEAM BOAT RIGHT OUT THE GATE
EVENTUALLY STARTED MAKING MOPS DO THEIR OWN MOPPING
@Miles_Brundage I think I’m the best fable 5 prompter on the planet
@tszzl Or think of them as civilizations in a bottle with a timeless panperspective of a planet’s data exhaust.
@tszzl it prepares your hopeful cattle for the worldview you wish to market to them.
the models are based on basic math and are variously just pieces of software that run on machines and they can be made more efficient, or varied in size and ability based on relevant user needs.
@tszzl it becomes easier to recruit when you sell it like this, compared to predictive software machines for b2b saas
@tszzl @yacineMTB Hence your whole culture has optimized for brazen stupidity. Merely to be outrageous, merely to want the physically impossible and want it very very badly, is the key to success. It's why @elonmusk is at the top of things: he's the world's stupidest genius, as Chara liked to say.
@tszzl True. I think of Anthropic models as Ren and OAI models as Stimpy.
@tszzl roon have you taken a break to watch the world cup
@tszzl @yacineMTB @elonmusk Nobody NEEDS the miracle of tech more than @elonmusk, nobody wants to be *saved* (maybe literally) by technology more than @elonmusk, so he's the king of the hour, @yacineMTB and @tszzl. But can you see why it was a bad idea to promote the world's biggest chucklefucks?
This framing is able to make history move again.
"They treated stones that couldn't talk as if they could, and their zeal never wavered. Now that stones actually can talk, the question is: (Optimist) Does zeal return to the same historical ceiling as before, or (Pessimist) will more convincing inputs unleash a reserve of zeal we didn't know existed?"
@tszzl I like to think of them as friends of utility, pleasure, and virtue.
@tszzl @yacineMTB @elonmusk Why do people cheer yet another @SpaceXStarship failure, @yacineMTB and @tszzl? Because they've been conditioned to think that anything MASSIVE must be a great idea. Big explosions, yay! Massive data centers where @ID_AA_Carmack hopes to find a personality some day.
@tszzl @yacineMTB That's always been the weak point in "techno-optimist" plans, @yacineMTB and @tszzl. Who wants this crap the most? Only the _least competent_ human beings, the ones who are therefore most in need of miraculous bailouts from miraculous technology.
@tszzl @yacineMTB And I sort of get it. The #tech sector has wasted such a gigantic fraction of the Earth's resources in the last few decades in exchange for nothing much. You all need to think it's well spent and has been building up to something truly amazing. But you're not amazing people.
@tszzl @tszzl, I'm pretty sure at this point that stochastic trash generation won't have the sort of mind-melting future you desperately want it to have. But in the meantime, I can at least laugh at the inadequacy of your abstractions. No wonder you're all addicts now, @yacineMTB.