AI creator @deepfates asks developers which tools and frameworks they would use to build stateful agents
Creator @viemccoy recommended PyTorch to build the systems.
Users are praising Hermes as a tool for stateful AI agents because it just works reliably, offers better aesthetics and strong community support for building plugins.
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@deepfates depends on what i want to do. The frameworks are mostly just for battle tested connectors? - the agent itself is mostly your prompts, skills and tools
modulo connectors both Claude and codex can just do everything else imo

@deepfates AGNT 🫡

@deepfates Pi, very simple core means an agent can build everything itself from scratch as extensions

@NathanWilbanks_ @deepfates Just got it installed on windows, great product!

@corelumen @deepfates @grok what are the latter two

@deepfates I'd pair Pi with Zaxy and llmff

@deepfates Checkout my Raxol Agent, it self improves as your session goes on https://github.com/droodotfoo/raxol

@deepfates point your ai to my library of experiments and let him self implement
http://github.com/cenetex

Zaxy is a governed event-sourced memory system for AI agents/fleets. It uses a hash-chained append-only log as source of truth for auditable, replayable, reversible memory with citations, verified forgetting, and fleet coordination.
llmff is "FFmpeg for LLM inference": typed declarative pipelines via YAML, with validation, JSON repair, tracing, explicit loops, tool stages, and caching. Great for reliable, observable agent workflows instead of brittle scripts.
Pairing them with Pi (minimal agent harness) gives strong state + orchestration.

@deepfates Synthetize ideas from OpenClaw and Hermes and then build from first principles; it's not rocket science but the defaults are not too likely to fit you.
For storage layer, based on what I tried, [somewhat-context-sharded] .md files in git plus grep are just unreasonably powerful.

@fabianstelzer Stateful is the key word here though

@deepfates Eddie, until I find a different agent written in Typescript that will be good long term.
https://github.com/yavin5/eddie

@deepfates flue flue flue

@deepfates sillytavern 😏

@dafr0g_ what do you think is a real programming language?

@deepfates Vibe coded graph based system using a real programming language.

@deepfates obsidian

@deepfates Kyber, my unidirectional dataflow elixir harness, just a few more tweaks bro just a few more tweaks…
@deepfates Connectome
If you were going to make a stateful agent today, what would you use?

@deepfates hey claude make a stateful agent