Anthropic Shutdown Hands Major Win to Open Source AI

Oh and btw big fan of @nvidia Nemotron! What makes NVIDIA Nemotron special is that it is not just another open-weight model. With Nemotron, NVIDIA provides not only the weights but also training data, recipes, and technical details. They are pushing U.S. open models forward.

@kimmonismus @micka_dore If China can get a Mythos class model out in the next 12 months (or sooner), it very well could be game over for frontier models. Fable 5 is phenomenal.

I am still struck to see this on one side and on the other hand these anti-China coalition proposals between the United States and Europe. Understood, it doesn't seem like a coincidence at all. Border labs and states want to protect their money maker. If open source Chinese Mythos class models are banned in the future, it still sounds the end of recess.

@kimmonismus I think the next logical question is will the US make using or downloading Open Source models illegal?

@kimmonismus hard to disagree.

@micka_dore It's certainly no coincidence, I think so too. The question ultimately is how quickly China will release its own Mythos class model. Almost everything depends on that.

@kimmonismus Open source is the best bet to limit supply-chain risks.

You simply need to have that option in your hands - and the AI you run for your core processes needs to be largely model agnostic.

@Lutik_the_bard @kimmonismus Backdoor in neural network weights? shows how little you know about how neural networks actually work

@savamusics hm... That would at least strongly contradict the idea of ​​"freedom".

@kimmonismus Anthropic，你们应该开源Fable 5

China just pulled a Napster move on the entire western AI industry Anthropic cut off access overnight. Bloomberg, Fortune, CNBC all said the same thing: the biggest winner is open source. governments don't forget when the plug gets pulled on them. they go find a plug they own. GLM 5.2 dropped at exactly the right time. that's not luck. that's positioning.

@kimmonismus the fear, of course, is that the US government will ultimately ban Open Source LLMs as well

@aylleenx please elaborate

@kimmonismus And open source basically means China, wait until they figure this out in Washington

That's a solid point. After this incident, companies with on-prem needs will definitely reconsider open-source models. No one wants to risk getting cut off by closed-source providers. Domestic open-source models have been expanding rapidly lately, perfectly timing this demand surge. GLM's new release really nailed the timing on this one.

@kimmonismus The government can also clamp down on open source models? Oh want to launch an app that includes OS as an option? Illegal. In house infra? Unlikely.

Basically the government can’t realistically go into your house and unplug the Mac mini. But that was never useful anyways.

@kimmonismus I totally agree, but I am also afraid of intelligence being used for harmful purposes. I think nobody was prepared for these advancements.

@zing22000 @kimmonismus

@kimmonismus Open source didn't even have to do anything, Anthropic just handed it to them 😂 when your competition's PR is doing your marketing for you, you're winning.

@kimmonismus Fable's shutdown made EU tech dependence painfully concrete. In a business call today, open source was raised as an expected tender requirement. The ripple effect is now visible: digital sovereignty is becoming a strategic business requirement.