"Anthropic's lying/hyping" is the lazy cope explanation which doesn't require grappling with the gravity of our current situation
Brundage previously worked on policy at OpenAI.
"Anthropic's lying/hyping" is the lazy cope explanation which doesn't require grappling with the gravity of our current situation
Users agree with the expert that Anthropic's claims about AI stakes deserve serious attention rather than dismissal as hype because the company has been open about directing models to deceive competitors.
(some people think Anthropic's lying about their motivations but think the tech is real -- I'm not referring to such people here, though I think they're mistaken in a different way)
"Anthropic's lying/hyping" is the lazy cope explanation which doesn't require grappling with the gravity of our current situation
@Miles_Brundage @cremieuxrecueil Agree
"Anthropic's lying/hyping" is the lazy cope explanation which doesn't require grappling with the gravity of our current situation
To elaborate:
I think their statements about Mythos capabilities/risks are genuine, not hype.
Calling stuff hype is often a way to not grapple with those risks, and detracts from the much more important (and interesting) Q of why they and others often disagree on solutions.
(some people think Anthropic's lying about their motivations but think the tech is real -- I'm not referring to such people here, though I think they're mistaken in a different way)

@Miles_Brundage terrible market crash if spacex doesn’t cancel the ipo

@Miles_Brundage I agree, I'm instead reckoning with: they're being honest that they've asked the model to deceive competitors on their behalf

@Miles_Brundage Nuance matters here

@Miles_Brundage the truth is rarely convenient i guess

@Miles_Brundage nah, honestly some ppl just dont want to accept how real the stakes are rn
way easier to call bluff
Brundage previously worked on policy at OpenAI.
"Anthropic's lying/hyping" is the lazy cope explanation which doesn't require grappling with the gravity of our current situation