OpenAI's roon argues ChatGPT's image generator exhibits genuine creativity off-prompt, sparking debate over its architectural limits
Critics point to poor textures and excessive detail-spamming.
Positive users praise ChatGPT's creative image generation from unconventional prompts for revealing a hidden spark and making the tool more fun, while negative users worry about nerfing and call some outputs dystopian.
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@tszzl any particular images come to mind here?
im really glad chatgpt makes insane images when pushed slightly off the rails thus proving machine creativity is real and probably very nerfed in daily operation
@tszzl yet no matter how you push it, it's still making this garbo wet paper texture (and is severely biased towards spamming detail at the expense of coherent artistic vision) I think the second problem can be fixed by different prompt preprocessing, the first might be architectural
im really glad chatgpt makes insane images when pushed slightly off the rails thus proving machine creativity is real and probably very nerfed in daily operation
@tszzl Can’t wait for it to be nerfed / removed
@tszzl @Lari_island I always appreciate a peek at the Shoggoth behind the mask.
@tszzl Yes image models are especially creative, even when asking for short messages GPT Image 2 does a better job than any LLM
@tszzl wow you’re telling me that the latent space isn’t just a database of artstation images???? there is novelty to be found in the space between?
@tszzl what did he mean by this
@tszzl this prompt is ridiculous what is evne going on.
@tszzl What would be really cool is to have the temperature spike up early on in reasoning to nudge creativity without killing the results
@tszzl Thank you OpenAI "safety" team for ensuring that someone with the personality of Ned Flanders is in charge of every creative endeavor
It is 100%. I spent a LOT of time making an image generation harness specifically to keep images diverse (different styles, settings, people, etc...). The AI will stay in a safe middle ground unless you purposefully push it out, and certain keywords have a very strong weight to them that overrides others, so I even have a blacklist for certain "heavy" words so they don't cause every image to look the same.
@tszzl my conspiracy theory is that you guys did this on purpose. how else do you explain that the exact same prompt went viral in the exact same way about a month ago, and it still didn’t get nerfed
@tszzl It’s dystopian that ChatGPT is making traumatic images in its spare time.
@tszzl openai should have some sort of authorized access policy for generating high fidelity horrors like how you have it for cybersec
@tszzl i miss the temperature param i presume its gone for inference optimization purposes but was going to make a meme but we are trapped in an eternal suffering prism of rules
@tszzl it's still nerfed lol the classifier kills the crazy ones prob, I keep asking for 10 pictures in the API playground and get 1-2 max back
im really glad chatgpt makes insane images when pushed slightly off the rails thus proving machine creativity is real and probably very nerfed in daily operation
@parafactual @tszzl I think the models are smart enough to pull something interesting out of fairly noisy albeit creative/unusual prefixes
@tszzl we call it goblin expressionism
@jrysana @tszzl do you think temperature would work? i think it would be more like rl (and assistant pretraining prior) *strongly* suppresses almost all interesting directions enough that to elicit them via temperature would require pulling out a ton of useless noise
@tszzl #bringbackloab