The most depressing thing when you talk to a lot of roboticists is how many of them just don't think the US can compete with china. Speedrunning national irrelevance, just like with our auto industry
Susan Zhang attributes the decline to domestic monopolization incentives.
The most depressing thing when you talk to a lot of roboticists is how many of them just don't think the US can compete with china. Speedrunning national irrelevance, just like with our auto industry
Many users dismissed debate over US robotics competitiveness with China through insults and accusations that opposing views relied on bullshit numbers or fanboyism.
if you REALLY want to make america competitive, do the YIMBY thing and reform land use so everything isn't so wildly expensive
Instead of a ban I really feel like we should be investing more in the supply chain. Chinese companies never have qualms using American stuff (count all the robots using quest 3s and Intel realsense and nvidia, its all of them) so why should we care about the reverse

@chris_j_paxton Just do the mafs…
Oh right, you can’t.

I think you misunderstand what happened to the auto industry, they lost billions trying to speed run what Tesla did in 20 years. And they raised the prices on all the people buying ICE vehicles to do it.
Now Tesla is selling a vehicle that is consistently competing for most units sold globally, despite being priced much higher than the others in the Yop 5.
My profile pic shows a Tesla bot working at the Tesla factory in 2021.
Never bet against Elon.

@Bluebearmonkey You're an idiot

@Bluebearmonkey @chris_j_paxton You can keep googling but you don't know anything about this.

@impossible_eng @chris_j_paxton Cope
More numbers

@satellitedown I live in Pittsburgh, I promise we cannot build roads well
@chris_j_paxton this is the core issue though. and the forces that push for an anti-competitive environment are simply incentivized to monopolize themselves, rather than play some long game "for the benefit of the country"
I dont even feel this is necessary. We have a lot of robotics talent. The same bad anti-competitive patterns are appearing though, where we are afraid of any sort of competition.

@hwcgc5 Both, the ones who actually go to china are usually way more scared though

@chris_j_paxton A view shaped by publicity stunt of Chinese companies or based on their knowledge of the actual progress made by Chinese companies?

@chris_j_paxton That's why the CCP puts out all those propaganda videos. It's meant to demoralize.

@chris_j_paxton the only thing the us can still build well on our own is roads lmao

@ISniffElonsMusk Tesla builds in china too lol, they actually received a huge amount of chinese subsidies. Its how it works.

@chris_j_paxton Tesla is best selling car in the world worth more than all foreign autos combined

@itchy_est fine our legacy auto industry. the tesla model y is a good car

@caswilliamson @chris_j_paxton What a retarded question.

@chris_j_paxton In the field of hardware, if both China and the United States are in the same field, there is a high probability that China will win! Apple's strength is not because of how well the hardware is done, but because it has established strong system barriers

@ISniffElonsMusk @chris_j_paxton That weakens your case instead of improving it.

Yes and they are the only foreign automaker that was allowed to own 100 percent of their factory. Everyone else has to do a 50/50 joint venture with a local Chinese company.
Tesla receives special treatment and subsidies because the Chinese government understands the advantages of this technology and would love nothing more than to learn from Tesla (who was happy to teach them).
And yes they learned.

@ISniffElonsMusk yeah how is any of this an argument that the US retreat is a good thing lol, this is an argument that you win the most by working w china and actually competing, which Tesla did
Susan Zhang attributes the decline to domestic monopolization incentives.
The most depressing thing when you talk to a lot of roboticists is how many of them just don't think the US can compete with china. Speedrunning national irrelevance, just like with our auto industry