Don’t miss this @HarryStebbings interview w @matanSF of @FactoryAI explaining the future of software in the age of AI: https://open.spotify.com/episode/40R3ULhqI2XjfUqG27lU7O?si=Eo4aKww2R0SG2khS0VO0ow
7:50 AM · Jun 13, 2026 · 7.4K Views
FactoryAI founder Matan Grinberg argues software engineering labor displacement fears are overblown, predicting an impending AI ROI reckoning
Story Overview
During a 20VC appearance, FactoryAI founder Matan Grinberg pushes back on fears that AI will displace software engineering roles, instead forecasting a coming reckoning on whether AI investments deliver real returns and calling out token maxing as a flawed tactic.
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When the ROI reckoning arrives
Grinberg flags an impending scrutiny on AI returns without spelling out the triggers or timeline, leaving the shape of that moment open.
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Token maxing draws fire
The founder also critiqued token maxing in the same conversation, framing it as part of broader questions around AI efficiency.
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Positive users praise Matan SF and FactoryAI for insightful podcast ideas on AI software factories, model independence, and industry growth, while negative users call the product inferior and the posts mere shilling.
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Shaun Maguire@shaunmmaguire
It is an honor and a privilege to work with @matanSF
He’s a special founder whose company @FactoryAI is starting to RIP
@HarryStebbings is a gifted interviewer so I’m sure this one is good
Matan Grinberg@matanSF
Had a fun conversation with @HarryStebbings on all things Model Independence, Software Factories, pricing wars…
And sprinkled in some hot takes that I may or may not regret sharing 😳
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Matan Grinberg@matanSF
Had a fun conversation with @HarryStebbings on all things Model Independence, Software Factories, pricing wars…
And sprinkled in some hot takes that I may or may not regret sharing 😳
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Matan Grinberg@matanSF
Full episode: https://youtu.be/lgo_QbgV198
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Harry Stebbings@HarryStebbings
@matanSF Such a fun episode to do and so thrilled you took millions of dollars from me having seen me in short shorts walking round a park!!!
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Matan Grinberg@matanSF
@HarryStebbings 🤣 a sentence that has never before been uttered
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Harry Stebbings@HarryStebbings
@shaunmmaguire @matanSF @FactoryAI Matan (Matt Damon) was incredible! Such a joy to do!
Shaun Maguire@shaunmmaguire
It is an honor and a privilege to work with @matanSF
He’s a special founder whose company @FactoryAI is starting to RIP
@HarryStebbings is a gifted interviewer so I’m sure this one is good
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John Koretoff@KoretoffJohn
@HarryStebbings @matanSF 😂
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Matan Grinberg@matanSF
@shaunmmaguire @FactoryAI @HarryStebbings Privilege is all mine 🫡
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Shaun Maguire@shaunmmaguire
@KoretoffJohn @matanSF @FactoryAI @HarryStebbings Sign me up
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John Koretoff@KoretoffJohn
@shaunmmaguire @matanSF @FactoryAI @HarryStebbings We need a pod with the two of you talking about theoretical physics! 🙏🏼
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Morgan@morganlinton
@matanSF @HarryStebbings I'm here for the hot takes 🙋♂️
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Lunari@0x_lun
@matanSF @HarryStebbings the ones you regret sharing are always the ones worth hearing
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SON OF PEACE 🪀 | AI Agent Builder@Sonofpeace0001
@matanSF @HarryStebbings Model independence is table stakes for a software factory. The actual bottleneck is building orchestration that survives provider changes without rewriting every workflow.
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Morgan@morganlinton
@shaunmmaguire @matanSF @FactoryAI @HarryStebbings Matan is awesome, love what Factory is doing, it is the single best coding harness for every model.
Most ppl don’t know that GPT 5.5, and Opus 4.8 but output better code in Droid than in their Codex or Claude Code 👀
I have tested a ton, these are facts.
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Harry Stuckler@HarryStuck77
@matanSF @HarryStebbings YEA - the age of the polymath is back. 😍
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John Koretoff@KoretoffJohn
@rabois @matanSF @HarryStebbings @FactoryAI Killer episode 🚀
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Vitaly Baum@butaji
@matanSF @HarryStebbings Must watch!
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carried_no_interest@carrynointerest
@matanSF @brexton @HarryStebbings YOUNG 🐐
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NCD@Jokerbernrin
@rabois @HarryStebbings @matanSF @FactoryAI Exciting glimpse ahead
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Doug@DougStandley
@matanSF @FactoryAI @HarryStebbings Great interview!
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