I sat down with @iamtrask, a research scientist at Google DeepMind and the founder of @OpenMinedOrg.

He said something that's stuck with me: there is between a million and a billion times more data than we're currently using to train even the biggest frontier AI systems.

The conversation goes from there to breast cancer, money laundering, why your senator can't hear you, and what civilisation looks like when listening scales.

Full episode below.