A federal class-action suit filed in California claims Anthropic's Max 5x and Max 20x tiers, priced at $100 and $200 monthly, fall well short of the advertised usage multiples over the base Claude Pro plan, with one plaintiff reporting that a single five-hour coding session burned through 15 percent of his weekly allowance.
if that's fraud then this is illegal price discrimination
🚨BREAKING: ANTHROPIC SUED FOR FRAUD
A customer filed a federal class-action lawsuit Monday claiming he hit 15% of weekly allowance in just one 5-hour sprint.
“The actual usage provided by the Max 5x and Max 20x plans is far below the advertised amount.”
They are calling it marketing fraud.
Heavy users who upgraded for intensive work now face abrupt choices between pausing tasks, stretching limits thin, or purchasing add-on credits when actual access proves far lower than the marketing multiples suggested.
The complaint points to earlier emails detailing expected weekly allowances and argues those figures were neither reliable nor clearly updated, leaving buyers without a straightforward way to verify what they were actually purchasing.
Many users called Anthropic's Claude plans a scam or fraud because rate limits ran out within minutes of use and felt dishonest, while a few defended the company as visionary or targeted.
Source: https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic-sued-over-limits-on-its-200-a-month-ai-plans-e2a109e4?mod=mhp
h/t:
I tried to lookup Karl Kahn from Washington DC, just because the name, timing, and location, taken together with recent events, sounds just slightly sus.
I found one very well fitting LinkedIn result on Google, but when i click on it, the profile does not exist (anymore?) see pic1
And i find no other trace yet? 🤔
Searching slightly differently, I find a JOHN Kahn as senior director at the same place? 🤔 see pic2
And.... i find a RICH Kahn at a company with edit distance 1 from the previous two 🤔 see pic3
As an armchair conspiracy theorist I find these plausible coincidences pretty funny. Anyways back to research.
🚨BREAKING: ANTHROPIC SUED FOR FRAUD
A customer filed a federal class-action lawsuit Monday claiming he hit 15% of weekly allowance in just one 5-hour sprint.
“The actual usage provided by the Max 5x and Max 20x plans is far below the advertised amount.”
They are calling it marketing fraud.
@skibidiwap69 @ns123abc There was never token / compute max amounts on the subscription page, so yes.
Long history of misleading users, degrading models and quantizing without telling users and only posting a blog after they got caught.
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Yes, it's true. A class-action lawsuit was filed Monday in Northern District of California by Karl Kahn against Anthropic. It alleges misleading marketing on Claude Max 5x ($100/mo) and Max 20x ($200/mo) plans, claiming actual usage is far below the advertised 5x/20x multipliers due to weekly caps and 5-hour resets. The complaint specifically cites hitting 15% of weekly allowance in one 5-hour sprint and calls it marketing fraud. Seeks class status and refunds. Anthropic declined to comment. Backed by WSJ and other reports. Allegations unproven.
@suchenzang something about glasshouses and stones
if that's fraud then this is illegal price discrimination
@ns123abc @grok is this true?
@ns123abc 0. dont buy
@suchenzang Also, all the comments in the thread that "it's about coding priority" do not make sense, publicly available vocabs (including OAI ones) are already code biased. @sasuke___420, any explanation for this? Is new vocab small or something?
@umi33563 @suchenzang I do think it's smaller but I haven't looked into it much
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SO ITS MISANTHROPIC
ELON WILL CALL IT MISANTHROPIC
HELLLO???
@ns123abc Imagine crying over technicalities of a ~20x subsidized usage subscription lol
@suchenzang It's because programming happens in English and all they care about (for now) is programming. They don't care much about the chatbot app, I think.
if that's fraud then this is illegal price discrimination
@ns123abc Anyone who’s subbed and used Claude knows this lawsuit is framing the usage very generously- I hit my limits within 2 prompts - it’s completely totally 💯 correct to call them out on bs because right now it’s just silly - they constantly prompt you to ‘buy more’ too - ridiculous
@ns123abc @nnnzzznnnzz Sorry, we thought you were an idiot like the others… Our lawyer will handle it with investors' money. We don't care.
@Rahll @ns123abc I think many individuals personally seek justice in the legal system. But I think for many, especially many corporations and lawyers, the legal system is just a way of making money.
@AlexStanif96089 @ns123abc "Other than subscription overpayment."
Lol, it's a class action, multiply that subscription overpayment by millions of people.
@ns123abc can't wait to get my $2.97 class-action lawsuit compensation from my $50,000 token spend
@AlexStanif96089 @ns123abc Nobody cares what you think, I'm talking about how these things work and the purpose they serve.