A Twitter thread kicked off by a DeepSeek advocate questioning why frontier AI firms brand themselves as labs quickly drew investor Will Manidis into the mix, who noted that the word choice echoes national labs and thereby lowers the political barrier to government taking a stake.
honestly, "labs" is such bullshit. What fucking "labs"? Why are we calling Anthropic a "lab"? It's a $1T+ corporation/ideological conspiracy with like 5000 members building a superweapon in secrecy, dropping hints from time to time. DeepSeek is a lab. this is a ticking time bomb
Manidis argues the Manhattan Project vibe already baked into how Altman-style leaders talk about their work makes minority nationalization and licensing regimes read as logical next steps rather than radical overreach.
The exchange treats both the scale of any coming state involvement and the precise mechanism as settled in the minds of observers, yet offers no fresh evidence on timelines, equity terms, or which agencies would actually hold the lever.
Many users agreed the 'labs' label for Anthropic is pompous and inaccurate because firms prioritize profits over science, while others called the criticism dumb or feared it leads to nationalization.
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@teortaxesTex AI companies are companies, not labs.
It is pompous & silly to call them labs.
honestly, "labs" is such bullshit. What fucking "labs"? Why are we calling Anthropic a "lab"? It's a $1T+ corporation/ideological conspiracy with like 5000 members building a superweapon in secrecy, dropping hints from time to time. DeepSeek is a lab. this is a ticking time bomb
not to do the linguistic determinism bit- but it's vastly easier to imagine nationalizing a "lab" than it is a "corporation"
we already understand the "national laboratory" as a vaguely confusing but american state function- but a national corporation is very soviet, not good
honestly, "labs" is such bullshit. What fucking "labs"? Why are we calling Anthropic a "lab"? It's a $1T+ corporation/ideological conspiracy with like 5000 members building a superweapon in secrecy, dropping hints from time to time. DeepSeek is a lab. this is a ticking time bomb
Imagine if Los Alamos Laboratory was a private actor that guards its cute know-hows, and weren't even publishing shit. But Dario argues that's exactly what his creation is. I don't see how a nation state can allow this to be anything more than a facade, in the long run.
honestly, "labs" is such bullshit. What fucking "labs"? Why are we calling Anthropic a "lab"? It's a $1T+ corporation/ideological conspiracy with like 5000 members building a superweapon in secrecy, dropping hints from time to time. DeepSeek is a lab. this is a ticking time bomb
this is all very much a foregone conclusion now, and everyone knows it (minority nationalization by christmas, some kind of license system) but could have all easily been avoided. it just required understanding that technology is a check to the state and could have thrown elbows
when we look back on the pre-nationalization era fondly, i think we'll realize the labs so explicitly modeling themselves after the manhattan project was a world historic misstep. it left the door open.
altman should be sinister and rich, the american public understands this
@elonmusk @teortaxesTex I’m going to start calling my observatory a Photon Lab
It sounds sci fi and mysterious
when we look back on the pre-nationalization era fondly, i think we'll realize the labs so explicitly modeling themselves after the manhattan project was a world historic misstep. it left the door open.
altman should be sinister and rich, the american public understands this
not to do the linguistic determinism bit- but it's vastly easier to imagine nationalizing a "lab" than it is a "corporation"
we already understand the "national laboratory" as a vaguely confusing but american state function- but a national corporation is very soviet, not good
@teortaxesTex I always preferred to call them Houses, and still do, but it kept confusing people so I started using labs.
honestly, "labs" is such bullshit. What fucking "labs"? Why are we calling Anthropic a "lab"? It's a $1T+ corporation/ideological conspiracy with like 5000 members building a superweapon in secrecy, dropping hints from time to time. DeepSeek is a lab. this is a ticking time bomb
@elonmusk @teortaxesTex But I think PoE2 is more than just a game for you. It's more like an art of living.
The same thing comes to mind when you look at the character's name.
____Bearly Legal____ @elonmusk
theres all these weird ways in which the national laboratory is the final form of the j-edgar-hoover-occupied-american-power, vaguely western (what exactly was mccarthy doing at SFI), clearly a part of the state but still run by grey suited great men that fight the langley crowd
this is all very much a foregone conclusion now, and everyone knows it (minority nationalization by christmas, some kind of license system) but could have all easily been avoided. it just required understanding that technology is a check to the state and could have thrown elbows
@Elizabe92742105 @elonmusk @teortaxesTex AI is possibly the worst thing happened to actual Aristocrats after SM influencers. lol
@AkkusOmercan @elonmusk @teortaxesTex Bearly Legal 🐻⚔️ @elonmusk
@WillManidis You don’t think IPO then nationalization was their exit plan all along?
@elonmusk @teortaxesTex The emperor has no lab coat🧪 🥼
Dear @elonmusk
You could have opened your eyes to the technology that will soon completely upend the entire system.
Instead, you chose to pretend not to see it.
How long will you keep pretending?
Someone has been overtaken in the rankings… 👀
Even @grok is watching closely.
@elonmusk @teortaxesTex ☑️ I agree with that that it's all companies and businesses.
@elonmusk @teortaxesTex https://x.com/G_Tarded69420/status/2072714669786034253?s=20 Ok Retard
@elonmusk @teortaxesTex But experiment and test runs are done there doesn’t that make them sorta a lab 👀
@elonmusk @teortaxesTex fuck off residue
bcz just with one thsirt and one bedroom sheet 3 years, no washign machine as it is comntamined by the jargon who dirts eveyrwhere i clean
vulnerable isnects
just with 3 pieces of things, less power in hands, just efortless, U WILL BECOME SEWAGE, SEWAGEEEEE
@elonmusk @teortaxesTex It’s because they are not transparent and people don’t even understand correct terminology
@elonmusk @teortaxesTex When you buy All AI Companies, than AI will be became Global like starling, space X and "X"