Bend creator Victor Taelin asks if Brazil can train frontier AI, sparking fashion supermodel jokes

Brazil of all places has this covered

@VictorTaelin You. Minuano Ltda. Incorporate today

@VictorTaelin Hell yeah we have Taelin, now we need a bunch of money, maybe a local semi condutors industry and a shit ton of experts, it would be nice to be done in 3 years but maybe in 30 we’ve get there.

@VictorTaelin Da Prefeitura do Rio:

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Finetune do qwen, claro. Se quiser conversar pode me chamar na DM ou entrar no nosso Discord (https://discord.com/invite/qsCfmwrwVP). Temos outros modelos ainda mais fortes prestes a serem anunciados.

@TheRastrian are you sure money, of all things, is the problem?

I'm fairly sure our industries would be fairly happy to invest

I'm more concerned about the actual talent

@VictorTaelin

@henryhe4rt but?

@VictorTaelin @AzureCruzader ja ouviu falar do ceia/akcit da UFG?

temos umas 6 dgx B200 e um monte de pesquisador (eu)

Money attracts talents in general and you know that well, and the problem is more political than monetary at this point.

There’s excellent talent here in Brazil that already are doing incredible research’s in those fields, but money and tech still a gap when you see the current economics.

So yeah, I think money is one of the major problems today to develop a national model or company AI related. Even with great minds we still need access to internal knowledge that only by hiring external key-people we can achieve.

@VictorTaelin carry your cross

@VictorTaelin No mercado Brasileiro provavelmente não (adoraria estar errado se tiverem mais info), mas se contar quem tá no exterior diria que sim.

Talvez se colar nas unis que produzem talento nacional é capaz de ter gente que falta bem pouca qualificação/xp. Seria interessante

@Rafa_Schwinger first how could I lead a company in a area I'm not expert on

second we do not have talent, investment, or infra needed for this to be anything other than a money bonfire

not even openai could beat anthropic. nobody can

@sohakes @VictorTaelin @TheRastrian deepseek and others trained frontiers more than once and they are also compute constrained. they are not talented constrained tho.

>frontier labs have brazilian researchers. that's part of the "problem" (if we want to get to frontier in brazil). any talent would just get poached

@VictorTaelin my man @DerekFeriancek and I are in São Paulo right now.

we got you

@VictorTaelin @TheRastrian They would not. They are not willing to take risks, rent seeking is the modus operandi here.

@VictorTaelin Sim, mas o interesse interno por enquanto é outro, e por incrível que pareça, eu acho o mais coeso, hoje é treinado modelos especialistas pra corporações nacionais e afins.

Principalmente no que diz respeito ao setor de óleo e gás

@VictorTaelin Brazillians, likely. In Brazil, unlikely.

@fakenickels @VictorTaelin Yup, the risks are more political at this point, as I’ve stated here:

@VictorTaelin Não temos nem infra nem pesquisadores pica pra isso Não dá

@Rafa_Schwinger @TheRastrian @VictorTaelin Nor even hardware, what do you need so ?