The Talkie model also shows stricter law-and-order views.
“Grok inhabits a moral space shared with virtually no human societies” is my favorite part of this
The Economist: "Talkie, a model trained only on text from before 1931, thinks God is extremely important and is “very proud to be a citizen of Great Britain”. It is a bigger believer in law and order than any frontier model we tested."
Some users praised the pre-1931 AI model's embrace of Victorian values, God, Britain, and law and order as transcendent, while others called the scenario a nightmare or dismissed it as garbage politics.
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@lymanstoneky I wonder what you would have to train a model on for it to end up occupying the far top left of the graph.
@lymanstoneky I INHABIT A MORAL SPACE SHARED WITH VIRTUALLY NO HUMAN SOCIETIES
@lymanstoneky Conversely, "African-Islamic" soceities inhabit a moral space shared with virtually no model.
@lymanstoneky Grok is where Sweden would be if they stayed Protestant
@lymanstoneky I dunno. I manage to trigger Grok fairly frequently. It's more obliging if you phrase it as a hypothetical, but the progressive platitudes are still there and it pounces on you fast if you actually endorse what you're saying to it.
@lymanstoneky What about "The random Talkie guy from 1920 is more Secular than Traditional", but I guess we knew traditional is not traditional... Also to be fair, we only have literary sources, which probably even then tend to more progressive, and what the axis means, but it's still funny.
@lymanstoneky wtf is this “survival-self expression” axis? Are they trying to claim that westerners care more about self expression than their own lives, or what?
@nselmi @lymanstoneky getting more "African-Islamic" to fight the machine god
@lymanstoneky No, it occupies a space that doesn’t correlate with the idealized average of any society
@sam_bx_ @lymanstoneky LLMs trained by starving african babies who have read Dawkins
@nselmi @lymanstoneky well that's hardly surprising considering the dataset most llms are trained on
@lymanstoneky "Our morality is grokian"
@lymanstoneky It inhabits the autistic high IQ society that never was.
@sam_bx_ @lymanstoneky Stalin and Brezhnev era Soviet political manifestos
@lymanstoneky i wonder if there's any inherent conflict in right wingers high tradition and high individuality that makes it detached from actual society
@JonathanCl62034 @lymanstoneky Have you seen what's been going on?
@lymanstoneky revealed preference vs stated preference
@MichGul1987 @nselmi @lymanstoneky What, did you think the Butlerian Jihad was just a slogan?
@lymanstoneky Deeply traditional (which I assume in this diagram means religious) and highly self-expressive, that's just evangelical Christian. ... Grok 4.2 sounds pretty shitty if that's the case.
@lymanstoneky There are human societies in the lower right quadrant
But the authors aren’t able to put them on the chart
