Allen Institute's Finbarr Timbers questions which rival AI labs Anthropic expects 'Mythos' or 'Fable' will accelerate
Alexander Doria argues large corporations drive the acceleration risk.
Many users accuse Anthropic of xenophobic targeting and manipulative intent to limit real AI development through its Mythos-related concerns about labs.
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AFAIK all of Meta, GDM, MAI, Amazon (heh), xai use Claude. I believe Nvidia too but unsure? And i don't know but i would guess that the four big Chinese ones do too?
And all of these have some sort of agi/frontier push effort.
Also unclear if they count all the R(eiou)cursive startups too?
I’m curious who the labs are that Anthropic is actually worried that Mythos/Fable will accelerate. OpenAI doesn’t use Claude. DeepMind?
@finbarrtimbers Finbarr they're worried about me accelerating off the couch
I’m curious who the labs are that Anthropic is actually worried that Mythos/Fable will accelerate. OpenAI doesn’t use Claude. DeepMind?
@finbarrtimbers What about small open-source labs? E.g. PrimeIntellect and co?
I’m curious who the labs are that Anthropic is actually worried that Mythos/Fable will accelerate. OpenAI doesn’t use Claude. DeepMind?
@BlackHC Do you think they’re actually worried about them? I can’t see Ant being worried about eg Ai2 or Arcee
@finbarrtimbers What about small open-source labs? E.g. PrimeIntellect and co?
Maybe less labs than large companies. This is already happening in China and the tokenonomics crisis has created the incentives.
I’m curious who the labs are that Anthropic is actually worried that Mythos/Fable will accelerate. OpenAI doesn’t use Claude. DeepMind?
Depends how much open-source AI could be accelerated when using their models to do the work
If a lot of the gains come from good post-training, then preventing acceleration makes sense from a safety point of view because you don't want open-source catching up to Mythos-style cyber capabilities super quickly
@BlackHC Do you think they’re actually worried about them? I can’t see Ant being worried about eg Ai2 or Arcee
@giffmana Oh, yes, ofc. I bet slowing down Meta is a major priority here.
AFAIK all of Meta, GDM, MAI, Amazon (heh), xai use Claude. I believe Nvidia too but unsure? And i don't know but i would guess that the four big Chinese ones do too?
And all of these have some sort of agi/frontier push effort.
Also unclear if they count all the R(eiou)cursive startups too?
@immortaldip Do you think they’re actually worried about cursor/xai? Chinese labs maybe.
@finbarrtimbers could be Chinese labs or Cursor/Xai gang...
@finbarrtimbers me
@natolambert They should be worried about you!
@BlackHC @finbarrtimbers bro how do you manage to turn that into safety problem haha
@finbarrtimbers me
@Dorialexander I'm utterly convinced that primary motivation for MAI-Thinking-1 was as a hedge and leverage vis-à-vis Ant pulling these kind of stunts.
@finbarrtimbers Meta?
@finbarrtimbers Could be less about named labs and more about diffusion into the long tail: smaller applied teams suddenly getting frontier-level leverage in cyber or bio workflows. That changes the threat surface faster than any one big lab.
@giffmana @finbarrtimbers Wonder if Arcee and Cohere as well
@finbarrtimbers You. They don't want you to build anything of real substance. They just want you to one-shot little games and useless Saas that no one will buy.
They just want to give you the illusion that you're doing real work before they rug pull everyone's job.
@finbarrtimbers Meta, DeepMind, China
@finbarrtimbers me