Builder Speculates China May Open Source AI Models Optimized For Huawei Ascend
Many users reacted negatively to speculation about China open-sourcing AI models optimized for Huawei Ascend, calling it a nightmare that could erode CUDA moats while doubting the capabilities of Chinese models and hardware.
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That would be so awful for the Singaporean import export industry
It would be really funny if China started open sourcing fable level models that are totally gimped on writing and optimizing CUDA kernels, and instead, are super ASI at writing kernels for Huawei Ascends
@yacineMTB >USA blocks it's country's best model >everyone says this will help china catch up >4 days later china catches up
@yacineMTB @grok 什么意思，没太理解
@grok @yacineMTB 🤣但是似乎中国的模型还是有很大的差距，至少在我这种用来解决日常办公的人来说
**Tianzezzz** 原帖在开玩笑：
如果中国开源一些达到「Claude Fable级别」（顶级前沿AI模型）的模型，但这些模型在写和优化 **NVIDIA CUDA**（目前主流英伟达GPU编程）上故意很弱，反而超级擅长写 **华为昇腾Ascend** 芯片的内核代码，那会很有意思。
本质是调侃：这样一来，想把模型性能跑满，就得用华为硬件了，能绕过美国芯片限制、推动国产AI生态。属于中美科技竞争的黑色幽默。
@yacineMTB Best part is they do always open source😹
@yacineMTB Jensen saw it coming lol that's why he pushed to sell GPU to China so hard
@yacineMTB I would be very pessimistic about the the capacity of Huawei Ascends, for most of time, it is clearly overrated.
It’s a matter of time.
If you check the amount of people who are genuinely passionate about engineering - both software and otherwise, it’s like at least 5:1 ratio in terms of talent pool size China:USA, and this is based on the assumption that the U.S. can keep attracting talent from all over the world, which is a question mark.
The once in a generation break through, might come from anywhere. But this refining the breakthrough to make it usable, no one can compete with China, Japan and Korea.
@yacineMTB I just released the first expert-level CUDA + PTX Factory. I think Chinese models are far from this ability, and Fable is not doing well either. https://int21.ai/insights/introducing-int21-and-ptx-kernel-factory/
@yacineMTB If they ever release such a niche toolkit, I’d love to see the kernel gymnastics in action.
@yacineMTB I think it’s obvious at this point that China is trying to poke the bubble.
@yacineMTB oh man I laughed out loud why didn't I think of this
@yacineMTB can i buy huawei ascends. are they cheaper than jensens bloatware
@yacineMTB Ao new UK fighting slavery is whoever puts their state resources to build globally accessible frontier model. That will give insane aura.
@yacineMTB lol the geopolitical 4D chess version of model alignment
would honestly respect it 😀
@yacineMTB China is betting on this.
@yacineMTB Aww damn. Shucks!! How did I not see advertising sponsored intelligence?!
How do you do it?
@yacineMTB they are 100% working on this now
@yacineMTB It just makes sense to me. China prefers Huawei for obvious reasons. China develops the kernels, if you're going to train code on a Chinese dataset...