Craig Federighi says at a post-event talk with media that Apple isn't using the same Gemini models that Google deploys to its own users.

@MKBHD Entirely new Siri, I heard that so many times over the years. 😪

@GarrisonMoratto @markgurman Yes it can. You just don’t get the customizable voices and enhanced dictation, that’s it. It’s a RAM limitation.

@MKBHD But is Apple gonna say it out aloud is what everybody want to know 😬

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@MKBHD I feel like Gemini is the best for apple to collaborate with

@MKBHD We had Ge Mini for a long time, let's admit it's time for Ge Pro Max

@MKBHD Wild to see this confirmed. Apple spent years positioning itself as the ultimate privacy-first ecosystem, and now they're routing cloud AI requests straight through Google's Gemini models. The tech debt must have been insane behind the scenes for them to make this deal.

@markgurman I bought an iPhone 16 Pro specifically to use the 2024 AI features, which Apple then never delivered, and now two years later, my 16 pro can’t run the new Siri…🤯

@MKBHD steve jobs would have hated this

@markgurman Didn't they state that when the partnership was announced -- that they'd be using custom fine-tuned versions of Gemini?

@MKBHD He said the thing!

@MKBHD Thank you, Jesus 🤠 I mean Craig F. Finally, Siri may figure out how to reply better than a 6-year-old.

@MKBHD THIS WILL BE LITERALLY HUGE

@MKBHD "deep collaboration"

@markgurman Apple will always spin up something to make it sound like its their own unique thing.

@MKBHD Apple's bet is don't build the best model, just integrate the best ones. Distribution over capability.

@IwerksUb @markgurman to make an LLM to rival OpenAI, Google, or Anthropic, they would've had to massively build out their data center infrastructure, massively increase their R&D spend, and then ditch one of the core selling points of their business (privacy). consumers and investors don't wantToWait

@markgurman We can tell, the Apple ones seem like they can actually call tools reliably.

@abcdluf @markgurman So I am supposed to be grateful to get the second rate version on a 24 month old phone specifically billed for Apple Intelligence