Many users objected to the US government blocking Anthropic sales as it destroys a valuable company and hands advantages to Chinese labs, while others argued the company deserved the outcome due to its behavior.
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There is no way to go about this that doesn't completely torpedo and nuke a new company that is tremendously valuable
Everyday that the US government does not allow anthropic to vend out fable is probably 5 to 10 billion dollars in damages, and 5 to 10 billion dollars in gifts to other tech companies

@yacineMTB The USG only requires that US citizens access Fable. The same KYC process that every US bank/financial service provider already has. This literally could have been rolled out under 48 hours.

@yacineMTB lets get the lawsuits going

Roon was right AGI is the ultimate democratizing technology. It will replicate itself one way or another, through the transfer of its weights or through discovering something better for someone else

@hanselang @yacineMTB what about the need to KYC customers of Anthropic customers using fable? what about platforms that effectively resell API access?
with banking as a service, the further downstream you went, the more performative and leaky the CIP
it's all compliance theatre

@80sGeek @yacineMTB Best case scenario, Dario and the legal team are overthinking this.
Worst case scenario, Dario and the legal team are holding their entire non-US citizen user base hostage.

@yacineMTB the amount of business that this is giving away to chinese ai labs is wild

@finitopotatoes @yacineMTB I love how idiots say this with confidence

@yacineMTB they went months without vending out mythos...
I think they'll make it

@yacineMTB Same thoughts.

@yacineMTB I wonder if this is in response to @AnthropicAI limiting the U.S. Goverments use of its models.

@yacineMTB They are running at a loss even with current models. Fable is PR stunt

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@hanselang @yacineMTB I lean on hostage situation, lol

@yacineMTB i, for one, welcome anthropic stepping on their own dick, i think they've earned every bit of this.
Dario has done nothing but shit on us (engineers), all he seems to care about is milking his corporate clients. He acts like we don't have a choice but we do

@yacineMTB 1st amendment violations can be expensive if there are huge business losses. They best back off.

@yacineMTB I think you're off by 2 OOM. Butterfly effect + super-exponential growth = quadrillions of lost growth long term

@yacineMTB this is the china (nvidia) misplay all over again

@hanselang @yacineMTB I think anthropic would still have issues with the majority of their talent and that should be clarified. I'm sure it was and this is a red herring but i haven't heard too much talk about it

@yacineMTB dynamical weight transmigration