Surprisingly good litmus test for politick is whether a {pre/post}training researcher immediately blames {post/pre}training for issues rather than defaulting to shared or self blame.
9:40 AM · Jun 29, 2026 · 5.1K Views
OpenAI research VP Aidan Clark says blaming opposing training phases for technical issues indicates team politics
Mark Chen joked that midtrainers always get the blame.
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Users ridiculed the AI researcher's litmus test for pre-post training team politics as amateurish and out of touch, urging him to fix his own issues instead.
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Mark Chen@markchen90
@_aidan_clark_ It’s always the midtrainer’s fault
Aidan Clark@_aidan_clark_
Surprisingly good litmus test for politick is whether a {pre/post}training researcher immediately blames {post/pre}training for issues rather than defaulting to shared or self blame.
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Aidan Clark@_aidan_clark_
@immortaldip Everyone who actually works at frontier labs understands that data doesn’t matter.
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immortal@immortaldip
@_aidan_clark_ nobody blamed on data team, LOL ?
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immortal@immortaldip
@_aidan_clark_ So where do distillation attacks fit if “data doesn’t matter”?
Or are traces fundamentally different from data when they’re used for distillation?
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heiner@HeinrichKuttler
@_aidan_clark_ clearly post training was to blame is the right answer
Aidan Clark@_aidan_clark_
Surprisingly good litmus test for politick is whether a {pre/post}training researcher immediately blames {post/pre}training for issues rather than defaulting to shared or self blame.
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tom@thomasp_19
@_aidan_clark_ @immortaldip ??💀
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jjh@jjh
@_aidan_clark_ Amateur. Obviously the right move is always blame the infra.
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attune@attunewise
@_aidan_clark_ You mind popping out of your bubble, and applying that puffed out chest to fixing your shit:
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Xiao Ma@infoxiao
@_aidan_clark_ what do the midtraining people do
Aidan Clark@_aidan_clark_
Surprisingly good litmus test for politick is whether a {pre/post}training researcher immediately blames {post/pre}training for issues rather than defaulting to shared or self blame.
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