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Posters Cite Economic and Cultural Factors in Rock's Decline

Users reply to Wesley Yang with theories on why rock faded from cultural center stage.

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Wesley Yang posted that rock music declined without much notice. @feelsdesperate suggested attenuated teen libidinal energy from online life, hormone issues, medication, and porn. @ReubenR80027912 blamed exhausted chord sequences after the 1960s and 1970s plus lost confidence after 9/11. @Decentguyusedto said rock was essentially dead by the late 1980s after a short grunge revival. @jtLOL countered that new rock bands still exist. @elite_gz pointed to streaming favoring old music and digital production ending rock's dominance. @o_reachtaire noted low album sales and cheap tickets make it hard for bands to earn.

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@ReubenR80027912Rock died b/c there was nothing left to play or say. All esoteric wisdom & beauty of classic rock was created in 60s & 70s. Every chord sequence played & replayed 9/11 shattered confidence needed for rock. Only trash “hard rock” of Slipknot & rap-derivative Limp Bitzkit remained
@o_reachtaireYou cannot have Spotify and cheap gig tickets. It is one or the other. Bands nowadays are killing themselves to not make a lot of money. I am not sure why this is complicated. For what its worth paying for records and having cheap gigs was far superior
@workmansflopera@o_reachtaire People say festival lineups are shit now, where are all the bands? How do they expect bands to emerge and succeed if people don't buy albums, and concert tickets are cheap? How do they make a living?
@elite_gzin terms of new music, rock's dominance was contingent on a particular technological state of play that ended with the advent of digital production and distribution. but streaming made old music more popular than ever, and algorithmic feeds can help you live in the past forever
@feelsdesperateI have a different hypothesis for why ‘rock died’ which is that rocks feeds off a very specific teen/20s libidinal energy that has been severely attenuated by IRL socialization moving online, hormone dysregulation, emotionally constricting psychopharmacology, over consumption of dead-eyed porn, bad nutrition and poor health even among the young, drugs becoming poorer quality and more dangerous, and continuous, panopticon social surveillance made possible by smartphone technology.
@Nemtastic1@feelsdesperate Rock requires a fundamentally unrepentant masculine impulse.
@DecentguyusedtoTruth be told, rock was basically dead by the late 80s. Hair metal was rock on life support. Then grunge came along and saved it. That lasted like 5 years. Then post-grunge was the new hair metal. So rock's been pretty dead, with a brief revival, for like 40 years.
@jtLOLThis is just another way of saying, "I'm old." There are tons of new rock bands. (I'm old. I also listen to the new releases on Spotify.)
@aresteanuI honestly think OK Computer kind of killed rock. We were all blown away. Some of us, like Dave Grohl, thought it was about to spark a new revolution in rock music. But no one could really reach that level. And then Thom Yorke was like, yeah, we're moving on to other stuff now.
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    @ReubenR80027912Rock died b/c there was nothing left to play or say. All esoteric wisdom & beauty of classic rock was created in 60s & 70s. Every chord sequence played & replayed 9/11 shattered confidence needed for rock. Only trash “hard rock” of Slipknot & rap-derivative Limp Bitzkit remained
    @o_reachtaireYou cannot have Spotify and cheap gig tickets. It is one or the other. Bands nowadays are killing themselves to not make a lot of money. I am not sure why this is complicated. For what its worth paying for records and having cheap gigs was far superior
    @workmansflopera@o_reachtaire People say festival lineups are shit now, where are all the bands? How do they expect bands to emerge and succeed if people don't buy albums, and concert tickets are cheap? How do they make a living?
    @elite_gzin terms of new music, rock's dominance was contingent on a particular technological state of play that ended with the advent of digital production and distribution. but streaming made old music more popular than ever, and algorithmic feeds can help you live in the past forever
    @feelsdesperateI have a different hypothesis for why ‘rock died’ which is that rocks feeds off a very specific teen/20s libidinal energy that has been severely attenuated by IRL socialization moving online, hormone dysregulation, emotionally constricting psychopharmacology, over consumption of dead-eyed porn, bad nutrition and poor health even among the young, drugs becoming poorer quality and more dangerous, and continuous, panopticon social surveillance made possible by smartphone technology.
    @Nemtastic1@feelsdesperate Rock requires a fundamentally unrepentant masculine impulse.
    @DecentguyusedtoTruth be told, rock was basically dead by the late 80s. Hair metal was rock on life support. Then grunge came along and saved it. That lasted like 5 years. Then post-grunge was the new hair metal. So rock's been pretty dead, with a brief revival, for like 40 years.
    @jtLOLThis is just another way of saying, "I'm old." There are tons of new rock bands. (I'm old. I also listen to the new releases on Spotify.)
    @aresteanuI honestly think OK Computer kind of killed rock. We were all blown away. Some of us, like Dave Grohl, thought it was about to spark a new revolution in rock music. But no one could really reach that level. And then Thom Yorke was like, yeah, we're moving on to other stuff now.
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